Hello Mr Gaiman I was wondering if it was an intentional choice to show Gabriel and Beelzebub in love without a kiss scene because they are more detached from earth and humanity unlike Aziraphale and Crowley who know about human pleasures and rituals and adapted them.
I don't think kissing scenes have much to do with love. Anathema and Newt kissed when they barely knew each other in Season 1, and none of the other couples who loved each other did. I can't see any reason for Gabriel and Beelzebub to kiss: singing Everyday together seemed much more powerful. Crowley's kiss is about a lot of things but it's not to show they're in love: if you haven't got it by then you'll never get it.
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Hello Mr Gaiman!!!
I just wanted to say that good omens 2 reached number 1 in Greece too!!!
Thank you very very much for this wonderful second season and I really hope that we will see a third one soon!!! (our favorite angel and demon need a happy ending as much as we do)
I hope we do too. Let's hope the studios see reason and the strikes are settled soon.
*inhales* I’m sorry for jumping back on the Harry Potter train at one of its most problematic points BUT
how the actual FUCK is Ronarry so underrated??? Ron and Harry have way more chemistry and a much deeper wholesome bond than Malfoy and Harry ever did, they’re literally crackhead dude bros ride or die besties, plus they’re literally two of the main characters. Sorry for showing my toxic shipper side BUT, I will never get over how all of y’all slept on Ronarry like this but decided to latch onto victim x bully ships like Drarry and Dramione, the fuck is wrong with y’all /j y’all are allowed to ship whatever as long as it’s not problematic idrc
like,,, Ron is literally the person Harry would miss the most confirmed in the 4th book. Ron is Harry’s FAVORITE PERSON. THE PERSON HE LOVES AND WILL MISS THE MOST. HIS W H E E Z Y. And in the same book he says that Ron and Hermione are his bffs but Ron is like,, d i f f e r e n t than Hermione somehow??? Like his,, a f f e c t i o n for Hermione is different than the affection he has for Ron??? Harry was literally so miserable when he had his two fights with Ron but wasn’t at all very sad when he was fighting with Hermione, someone on the s a m e l e v e l of bestfriendness as Ron according to Harry
AAAALSO i won’t let y’all ever forget when Ron squared up to a fucking convicted mass murderer!! for Harry!! with a BROKEN LEG??? COUGHCOUGH Harry never understanding Ron's self worth and inferiority complex issues because he's always seen Ron as his number numero uno COUGHCOUGH
They changed each other's lives for the better, they were practically each other’s first friends, their relationship and banter is the most wholesome thing i will not remain silent on my frustration on how underrated Ronarry is, i will go down with this ship sir sirs, antis be damned
HEN: Can I be frank with you guys? CHIMNEY: Sure, but I don’t see how changing your name is going to help. BUCK: Oh! Can I still be Buck? EDDIE: Shh! Let Frank speak!
Geto and Gojo’s relationship is probably my favorite in the manga, so far. Although, these are just some ramblings from my side on - very long post.
The first thing that really stood out with them: they casually use each other’s first names. We know that it’s uncommon in Japanese unless you are really close to the other person. It’s also worth noting that although Shoko was also in the same year as them, she wasn’t as close to them as they were to each other - “The Strongest Duo”.
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And the bitter truth is, you and I will never see the light of the same day.
I’ve had time to process Aziraphale’s choice at the end of Season 2. And I think only blaming the religious trauma misses something important in Aziraphale’s character. I think what happened was also Aziraphale’s own conscious choice––as a growth from his trauma, in fact. Hear me out.
Since November 2022 I’ve been haunted by something Michael Sheen said at the MCM London Comic Con. At the Q&A, someone asked him about which fantasy creature he enjoyed playing most and Michael (bless him, truly) veered on a tangent about angels and goodness and how, specifically,
We as a society tend to sort of undervalue goodness. It’s sort of seen as sort of somehow weak and a bit nimby and “oh it’s nice.” And I think to be good takes enormous reserves of courage and stamina. I mean, you have to look the dark in the face to be truly good and to be truly of the light…. The idea that goodness is somehow lesser and less interesting and not as kind of muscular and as passionate and as fierce as evil somehow and darkness, I think is nonsense. The idea of being able to portray an angel, a being of love. I love seeing the things people have put online about angels being ferocious creatures, and I love that. I think that’s a really good representation of what goodness can be, what it should be, I suppose.
I was looking forward to BAMF!Aziraphale all season long, and I think that’s what we got in the end. Remember Neil said that the Job minisode was important for Aziraphale’s story. Remember how Aziraphale sat on that rock and reconciled to himself that he MUST go to Hell, because he lied and thwarted the will of God. He believed that––truly, honestly, with the faith of a child, but the bravery of a soldier.
Aziraphale, a being of love with more goodness than all of Heaven combined, believed he needed to walk through the Gates of Hell because it was the Right Thing to do. (Like Job, he didn’t understand his sin but believed he needed to sacrifice his happiness to do the Right Thing.)
That’s why we saw Aziraphale as a soldier this season: the bookshop battle, the halo. But yes, the ending as well.
Because Aziraphale never wanted to go to Heaven, and he never wanted to go there without Crowley.
But it was Crowley who taught him that he could, even SHOULD, act when his moral heart told him something was wrong. While Crowley was willing to run away and let the world burn, it was Aziraphale (in that bandstand at the end of the world) who stood his ground and said No. We can make a difference. We can save everyone.
And Aziraphale knew he could not give up the ace up his sleeve (his position as an angel) to talk to God and make them see the truth in his heart.
I was messed up by Ineffable Bureaucracy (Boxfly) getting their happy ending when our Ineffable Husbands didn’t, but I see now that them running away served to prove something to Aziraphale. (And I am fully convinced that Gabriel and Beelzebub saw the example of the Ineffables at the Not-pocalypse and took inspiration from them for choosing to ditch their respective sides)
But my point is that Aziraphale saw them, and in some ways, they looked like him and Crowley. And he saw how Gabriel, the biggest bully in Heaven, was also like him in a way (a being capable of love) and also just a child when he wasn’t influenced by the poison of Heaven. Muriel, too, wasn’t a bad person. The Metatron also seemed to have grown more flexible with his morality (from Aziraphale's perspective). Like Earth, Heaven was shades of (light?) gray.
Aziraphale is too good an angel not to believe in hope. Or forgiveness (something he’s very good at it).
Aziraphale has been scarred by Heaven all his life. But with the cracks in Heaven’s armor (cracks he and Crowley helped create), Aziraphale is seeing something else. A chance to change them. They did terrible things to him, but he is better than them, and because of Crowley, he feels ready to face them.
(Will it work? Can Heaven change, institutionally? Probably not, but I can't blame Aziraphale for trying.)
At the cafe, the Metatron said something big was coming in the Great Plan. Aziraphale knows how trapped he had felt when he didn’t have God’s ear the first time something huge happened in the Big Plan. He can’t take a chance again to risk the world by not having a foot in the door of Heaven. That’s why we saw individual human deaths (or the threat of death) so much more this season: Elspeth, Wee Morag, Job’s children, the 1940s magician. Aziraphale almost killed a child when he couldn’t get through to God, and he’s not going through that again.
“We could make a difference.” We could save everyone.
Remember what Michael Sheen said about courage and doing good––and having to “look the dark in the face to be truly good.” That’s what happened when Aziraphale was willing to go to Hell for his actions. That’s what happened when he decided he had to go to Heaven, where he had been abused and belittled and made to feel small. He decided to willingly go into the Lion’s Den, to face his abusers and his anxiety, to make them better so that they would not try to destroy the world again.
Him, just one angel. He needed Crowley to be there with him, to help him be brave, to ask the questions that Heaven needed to hear, to tell them God was wrong. Crowley is the inspiration that drives Aziraphale’s change, Crowley is the engine that fuels Aziraphale’s courage.
But then Crowley tells him that going to Heaven is stupid. That they don’t need Heaven. And he’s right. Aziraphale knows he’s right.
Aziraphale doesn’t need Heaven; Heaven needs him. They just don’t know how much they need him, or how much humanity needs him there, too. (If everyone who ran for office was corrupt, how can the system change?)
Terry Pratchett (in the Discworld book, Small Gods) is scathing of God, organized religion, and the corrupt people religion empowers, but he is sympathetic to the individual who has real, pure faith and a good heart. In fact, the everyman protagonist of Small Gods is a better person than the god he serves, and in the end, he ends up changing the church to be better, more open-minded, and more humanist than god could ever do alone.
Aziraphale is willing to go to the darkest places to do the Right Thing, and Heaven is no exception. When Crowley says that Heaven is toxic, that’s exactly why Aziraphale knows he needs to go there. “You’re exactly is different from my exactly.”
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In the aftermath of Trump's election in the US, Brexit happened in 2018. Michael Sheen felt compelled to figure out what was going on in his country after this shock. But he was living in Los Angeles with Sarah Silverman at the time, and she also wanted to become more politically active in the US.
Sheen: “I felt a responsibility to do something, but it [meant] coming back [to Britain] – which was difficult for us, because we were very important to each other. But we both acknowledge that each of us had to do what we needed to do.” In the end, they split up and Michael moved back to the UK.
Sometimes doing the Right Thing means sacrificing your own happiness. Sometimes it means going to Hell. Sometimes it means going to Heaven. Sometimes it means losing a relationship.
And that’s why what happened in the end was so difficult for Aziraphale. Because he loves Crowley desperately. He wants to be together. He wanted that kiss for thousands of years. He knows that taking command of Heaven means they would never again have to bow to the demands of a God they couldn’t understand, or run from a Hell who still came after them. They could change the rules of the game.
And he’s still going to do that. But it hurts him that he has to do that alone.