So...Rhaenyra says: "The boars squeal like children when they're being slaughtered"...and then she furiously slaughters a boar herself??? And all this in the episode where we're constantly being demonstrated that she doesn't like two-year-old Aegon??? I meeeaaan... It's creepy, isn't it?
In the show, I kind of wish that there were more moments between the greens being a happy family.
I agree wholeheartedly.
The greens weren't really given lots of wholesome family moments, which is something I could forgive, if they didn't have pretty shitty scenes that really did not need to be there instead.
Like the creepy Larys feet scene.
Like come on we could've had some moments between the green siblings! Aegon and Aemond interact, but I've practically never heard either of them talk to Helaena!
And maybe they could've fleshed out the Helaegon kids, especially knowing what's coming at the start of season 2.
How much do you wanna bet that Helaena won't get any screentime with her babies before blood and cheese?
On one hand, you don't really need to know a child character to feel bad for their death, butttt, it would hit so much harder if we actually allowed Aegon's kids to be characters, instead of just offspring in the background.
(I have to be honest, the twins got so little screentime that I'm pretty sure casual viewers have forgotten Aegon and Helaena even have children).
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i think it's really funny that rhaenyra is like "why do they think that i sent assassins after it - i mean after dear helaena's son"
*cue montage*
"children squeal like boars" while glaring at baby aegon, later proceeds to violently stab a boar to death, gives aegon more death glares while covered in blood
never interacts with her siblings, seemingly does not give a shit about them
"sharply questioned"
has laenor "killed"
marries daemon, number one fear of everyone in westeros
*end montage*
i mean, rhae-rhae, you've shown yourself to be an insensitive, violent person, and you stand to gain from jaehaerys's death. of course they think it was you.
Daemon and Rhaenyra’s relationship not only embodies what a grooming relationship looks like but also with how it progresses once the minor grows up. Not every person who was groomed is going to admit that it happened to them because it make the situation so much more real. And sometimes the person who was groomed doesn’t even realize that it happened to them until years down the line.
And the saddest part about their relationship and people who are in similar relationships in real life almost always go back. Because that person has been with them through their entire life and has quite literally seen them through thick and thin(even if the abuser was the cause behind it all) and it make the victim believe that the abuser could never be a bad person. We see that when Daemon celebrates Aemma and Baelon’s death by toasting Nyra’s brother as, “Heir for a day.”
Then Daemon goes on to steal the egg she chose for her brother and effectively take over Dragonstone-the castle of which she is now Princess of. And when he comes back to court after being away for four years at war she just forgives him since he’s the only person she has left at court. Even years later, when Harwin and Laena are both dead and Laenor is becoming increasingly depressed because of his sister’s death, Rhaenyra goes back to Daemon because she’s associated him with a relying hand who can help her at court.
She’s so convinced that he’s only looking after her to the point that when he starts an affair with teenage Nettles, all Rhaenyra thinks is that it must have been Nettles who ‘lured’ Daemon into her bed and sends word that she wants Nettles killed.
KING
Soo hotd has a lot of interesting scenes that were deleted. Some people love them, others believe that removing them was for the best.
Today I'll check em out and tell you how I feel about them, and how I think they could have benefited the show if kept in.
Uhh I have.. feelings towards this.
And I already hear you go:
"How could you not like this, it's so wholesome!" Yeah I know I know, trust me, I think this is adorable, just a weird scene.
From what we know this shot was completely improvised by Matt and it shows.
Cause almost all of his character's nicer scenes that make people think "maybe he isn't that bad" were ideas Matt came up with. We can see throughout the show how the poor guy does his best to not make Daemon look like a psycho and it's nice on paper, but the contrast between his improvised scenes and the scripted ones is jarring.
I mean we go from him violently beating his first wife to death with a rock, to him tenderly breaking the news of Luke's death to Nyra or picking up Vizzy's crown and gently crowning him.
It does work more with his book characterization though so that's cool.
It's cute, it makes casual viewers go awww, but it's a bit inconsistent in the grand scheme of things.
I guess some people will interpret it as the softer spot Daemon has for the people he truly cares about, but knowing how he also treats them in other scenes...
Cough cough Rhaenyra choke scene cough cough.
I'm just left a bit confused.
Overall, I like it, but there's better.
7-/10
God I wanted this to make the cut soo bad.
It's just that in the past I've already talked about how dirty Criston is done in the fandom, and I truly believe he deserves more screentime, he's a very interesting character.
So getting a scene like this would have been awesome, and by showcasing the pride and happiness Criston felt at achieving his dream thanks to Rhae, her eventual treatment of him would have hurt even worse.
Personally I'm not sure if it could have swung more people to feel for him and criticize Nyra, but it would have generally enriched his character and relationship with the princess and I would have looved it.
Only point against it is that it's probably one of the least important deleted scenes.
It sucks to say it, but I didn't really feel it's absence, you know?
If I had to cut a scene, I too would have chosen this one, but with a veery heavy heart.
Really solid idea though.
8+/10
Finally, we're moving onto Alicent related scenes.
And this... is my villain origin story.
I can't believe it was cut, wtf!
I get that maybe they wanted to stay loyal to the rule "show don't tell" cause it was already obvious that Rhae was mad at Alicent when she ran out of council meeting room after the announcement of her father's betrothal, but like... The possible angst!
Alicent crying, trying to explain the situation and appealing to their friendship to try and get Nyra to calm down while she screams at her and calls her names for not revealing the truth sooner, god this would have destroyed me even further!
The missed potential drives me insane, I would literally pay money to see how this scene was supposed to play out.
10/10
This awesome interaction would have also perfectly set up the hostility and tention that would characterize the next deleted gem...
Godd, this is another one of those scenes that, in my humble opinion, should have stayed in the show.
Not only because of the possibility of more Rhaenicent angst to break my heart,(Yeess) but also because this is one of those scenes whose absence is really felt in the story for me.
We go from Ali and Viserys's betrothal to them being already married with a toddler and another baby on the way and even though I'm aware that hotd has a lot of time jumps, I do feel like we should at least have seen the wedding celebration before moving onto the future.
This event being glossed over really left a bad taste in my mouth.
9,5/10
I can just imagine the sad and awkward silence during that scene, poor girls.
Soo, time to talk about the most incompetent targ king and his very problematic bro.
This scene had a loot of potential.
Apparently it was supposed to be about Viserys toying with the idea of revealing the Conquerer's prophecy to Daemon, but ultimately choosing not to after his brother showed little to no interest in what he was saying.
It would have been great to set up Daemyra's fight in the last episode
(honestly it would have been quite funny to see Daemon have a meltdown after hearing of the prophecy that he thinks his brother didn't trust him enough to tell him of, when he literally had the chance of knowing about it but threw it away lol)
And it also would have showcased how unfit Daemon is to rule, and given Viserys yet another reason to pick Rhaenyra as his heir over him.
9-/10
Yes I know there are a lot more deleted scenes to discuss, but I really don't want this post to get too long, so I'm going to end it here.
Personally, I think all of these deleted scenes were good, and there genuinely wasn't a single one I would have hated to see on screen.
But what were your favourites? Please tell me, especially if they weren't featured in this post, I'm super curious to find out about more cut scenes to learn what we all missed lmao.
"he shouldnt have fucked her" SHE IS THE PRINCESS AND HEIR, who on earth Could refuse in that position. He thought she loved him after that, he thought she wouldve wanted to run away with him, she blatantly took advantage of their positions for her own pleasure... Im very much one to bitch about whiny men not getting what they "expected" from a woman, but this isnt that, dudes not an incel.
Exactly anon, you just said all I was thinking!
I honestly can't even imagine what must have gone through Criston's mind after Rhaenyra rejected him. Like, the dude had risked everything for her! Viserys would have 100% tortured and killed him for "ruining" his daughter, and she just didn't give a shit.
I think that's one of the biggest representation of Rhaenyra's immaturity and recklessness. The girl believes she can dump others without consequences for her or them after getting what she wanted out of the relationship. She really is a spoiled brat and I blame it all on her deadbeat dad. 'Cause Viserys only knows two types of parenting:
Completely ignore your kids because you didn't have them with your first wife.
Or put them on a pedestal, say they can do no wrong, always cover up for their mistakes so they never suffer the consequences of their actions and side with them even when they're clearly in the wrong.
oh yeah also. I will get people in my inbox telling me to kill myself over this, but: I do think that fake murdering the consistent father figure of your children who is a bit emotionally absent but very reliable and a good person and replacing him with daemon is a decision that is going to be bad for those children. even though she does it to elevate her claim. and then having a fourth son who has bright blonde hair and beautiful legitimate purple eyes and naming him AEGON is something that is going to be politically bad for your eldest three suspiciously brunette sons.
luke seems to idolize rhaenyra but i don’t know what’s going on with jace. he does nottttt seem to like daemon and seems very protective of his mother against him, but also knows that she won’t tell him the truth about who he is even though everyone else WILL and I think on some level, he has to have at least considered that she might have killed Laenor. i wish they had spent time on this!!!!
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