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Scrolling my life away

Mainly a Hotd blog but I also enjoy talking about Asoiaf and Aot. Book!Alicent and Criston slander is not permitted here. 19

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1 year ago

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

TW: SCA, MURDER, CHILD MURDER AND CHILD DEATH, ABLEISM, SUICIDE MENT

People know that I love Jaehaera Targaryen and try to keep my mind in positive things about her, just reading headcanons and seeing art of her and Aegon, or her and her brothers and her mother. But I'm tired of even trying to do that, because this fandom is so weird about her, people still come after us at the minimum possibly of her surviving or at the first sight of someone saying they want her to live (the first two screenshots are from a Reddit post in which I shared an art or Jaehaera and Aegon III, that's all)

I'm tired of this "oh to keep her alive would be so cruel with her and Aegon" like they care for her.

Dude, she is just an innocent child, as much as Aegon III. They say "how can you want them married, her father killed his mother". And his father orchestrated the murder of her twin brother who led at the death of her mother. But we all know that that have nothing to do with her.

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN
WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

Both comments are from the same person šŸ’€ they start like "she wouldn't survive because that would be so cruel" (yeah, it is not cruel killing a 10yo girl) but then they can't stand the possibility of someone liking her and wanting her to live and they talk in the most despicable way about her and how she deserved to be replaced as soon as she died.

Why is it so difficult to accept the fact that the little girl has supporters who want her to live? But they can't, they need to be an asshole for free.

Jaehaera is a child, prone to cry, but happy. Her murder was cruel and unnecessary. It has nothing to do with her being the daughter of his mother's killer or with her being a green.

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Even if you doubt of Elio Garcia's words, it has never been stated for George that the reason to kill her was because she, as a green, needed to die.

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN
WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

Like why, what did the little girl to deserve to be minimized? Just to exist and be from the TG.

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

They really think that everyone is like them, that everyone is going to lose their mind for the possibility of a little child from the other team surviving.

Joffrey's death, even while the dance was still happening, was unnecessarily cruel and of course I won't get mad for the possibility of him surviving. The only criticism I would make about that is that it would be so biased to have 5 kids of the TB surviving and killing all the TG kids. But not because of that I will be like "he NEEDS to die" and will get mad for people wanting him to survive. If that happens it would be fair for me wanting Jaehaera to survive too.

And god, the ableism here is so unhinged.

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN
WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

It is so fucking ironic how they can be like "how can you like a character with two lines" and "she is a r*tarded child and she was never gonna give Aegon III heirs" like decide, she "only has two lines" or you can know everything about her, her mental state and how would have been her life?

And lets start with the cruelty toward her: it is so fucking weird

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN
WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN
WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

They want her to suffer like what, what did her to deserve that???

I will add more screenshots but I've reached my limit in this post 🫔

They have gone so far as to wish her little brother to be raped and murdered, to mess with the actress who plays Jaehaera (who is a little girl) and to compare her to rats or stray dogs.

People who know me knows that I am on the "separe between fiction and reality" side, but talking like this is too much, getting angry for people not thinking like you because they want her to live and commenting their posts mad because she NEEDS to die is too much, and messing with the actress who plays the girl is too much.


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1 year ago

Literally this.

How can I feel any sort of sympathy for the man who is to blame for everything that happened. HOW

Viserys Targaryen Rant Part 2

Rhaenyra, the King’s Heir

After episode eight of House of the Dragon aired, there were a lot of people cheering on Viserys for his support of Rhaenyra’s claim.

Viserys Targaryen Rant Part 2

I will admit, the scene was heartwarming to me at first,- a frail old man on the brink of death, getting up solely to defend his daughter in front of a court that may have had grievances with her being a female-heir. That kind of fatherly support, means a lot in a misogynistic society like Westeros. But, what does that moment of support truly mean for a man that had not performed his duties as a father?

Let us refer back to episode one. This scene in particular:

Viserys Targaryen Rant Part 2

Aemma expresses to Viserys that she does not wish to have another pregnancy after the birth of the child she’s pregnant with.

According to Fire and Blood, Viserys and Aemma married when she was eleven years old. Their marriage was not consummated until two years later, when Aemma had flowered. Aemma in both Fire and Blood and House of the Dragon would go on to suffer multiple miscarriages, that some of Maesters suspected were due to her being bed too young.

Refocusing on the scene above, Aemma tells Viserys that Rhaenyra suspects that the unborn child might be a girl. Viserys is insistent that it is a boy.

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In episode one, Rhaenyra was fifteen years old. If she were male, Viserys would have started preparing her as his heir,- taking her to council meetings, send her as a messenger, etc. But he doesn’t, because he wanted a male heir. He spent almost two decades brutalizing his wife and ultimately killing her for a son. He spent almost two decades neglecting his daughter and putting her aside because he wanted a son.

Aegon, Second of his Name

Viserys Targaryen Rant Part 2

In the third episode of House of the Dragon, we meet Aegon, the first child between Alicent and Viserys.

For a majority of the episode, Aegon is being celebrated as it’s his name day, and he’s the king’s first born son. The King now having son would usually signal a change in succession, since for most of Westeros, sons inherit over daughters. However, by the end of the episode, Viserys’ position does not change: Rhaenyra is his rightful heir.

So what happens to Aegon, the long-awaited son?

Let’s look at some word from the screenwriter, Ryan Condal:

"Aegon is a great example of neglect and indulgence," Condal says. "This is the medieval version of the millionaire's prodigal son. His mother was 15, and his father never paid any attention to him. His father deeply, deeply loved Aemma and Rhaenyra and was [only] having [more] kids to carry on the line. He really didn't want Aegon — he wanted Baelon, the son that killed his first wife."

When we first meet Aegon he was being celebrated. After hoping for a boy for years, Viserys finally got a male heir.

We don’t get any scenes of his early childhood but we see Aegon again when he’s a teenager. He’s disinterested in most things, he’s blunt, he teases, he masturbates by the window sill, but most of all, he’s disinterested and lackadaisical.

After another time skip, we see Aegon again. He’s still disinterested in most things, he drinks, he’s a rapist, and is overall not really a good person.

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Within the fandom, most of the blame for the way Aegon has turned out has been directed to Alicent.

Now, Alicent being a child-bride does not excuse all of her actions, but it does explain a lot of them.

In scene where Alicent speaks with Dyana, I interpreted her reaction as one filled with shame, frustration and disappointment. All of the traits I used to describe Aegon, can be applied to Viserys. Aegon is his father’s mirror and Alicent is the only one who is trying to break it. Immediately after meeting with Dyana, she confronts Aegon, and disowns him(well,not really). Were her methods rash? Yes, it was rash and abusive, but who else was checking him? Where was Viserys during his formative years to correct this behavior?

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I do not condone any of his actions, but I grieve the person Aegon could’ve been if Viserys had not been his father.

Aemond, the Kinslayer

I’d reckon that Aemond’s birth wasn’t quite the spectacle that Aegon’s was, he’s the second son, who inherits nothing.

Viserys Targaryen Rant Part 2

When we first meet Aemond, he’s miserable. He has a very low self esteem mostly due to all of his peers having dragon, while he doesn’t. His father, Viserys was the last mount of Balerion, the Black Dread. Balerion represents the strength and history of House Targaryen in Westeros. He’s the last dragon to have come from Old Valyria, and his first rider was the man who united Westeros under one crown, Aegon the Conqueror. Viserys took Balerion on one ride, and the old dragon died shortly after. He spent all of his rule as a Targaryen king without a dragon. We get no indication that he had negative feelings about not being a dragon rider, in fact, he finds power in the dreams and prophecies of Targaryens and Old Valyria, than the man power of dragons. Had he been around to salvage any feelings of unworthiness Aemond felt when his egg didn’t hatch, or when the riderless dragons in the dragon pit rejected him, Aemond would’ve been less resentful about not having one.

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So in this scene here, where he claims Vhagar, and rides her for the first time, it’s a moment of legitimacy for him. He’s a Targaryen, with a dragon. He fits in with his siblings and his nephews, finally.

His claiming of Vhagar came with a price, his eye. I’m not going to delve into the mishap that took place between him, the Dragon twins and the Strong boys, because they were children. Baela and Rhaena had all right to be angry about Aemond claiming Vhagar, Luke had all right to defend his brother, Aemond had all right to react to their insults. Was he a bit insensitive ? Yes, but he’s a kid. They’re all children. They do not have the same awareness and consideration adults should have.

The aftermath of that scene is a confrontation between Rhaenyra and Alicent.

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There has been a lot of discourse about this scene in particular, but Emma D’arcy and Olivia Cooke’s is the one I resonate with the most :

ED: It’s such an interesting scene, right? My sympathy is fully with Alicent. On the page I was like, Well, she’s fucking right.

OC: Someone’s lost an eye.

ED: Someone’s lost an eye! I’m so amazed every time Paddy basically tells you to let it go. Simultaneously, Rhaenyra is playing quite a basic game: Lie hard, do not back down, and weaponize this word ā€œtreason.ā€

OC: Alicent’s being gaslit massively and she fucking explodes. In friendships or relationships, when it gets to the point where you feel you’re going mad, there’s no route out other than complete volcanic annihilation.

ED: There is something resentfully delicious in it for Rhaenyra, in that she so rarely gets definitively the backing of her father. Early on, she loses both her best friend and her father because they get married. These moments where she gets publicly chosen, and chosen instead of you — there’s a really violent quality of vengeance for her.

No Alicent should not have asked for a five year old’s eye. But her son, has just lost one. And his father, is more focused on the fact that his grandchildren were called bastards. Now I’m not discounting the fact that Westeros discriminates against bastards, but that could have been addressed afterwards. Viserys spent the entire scene promising his court that they’d lose a tongue for even uttering a word about his grandsons, while his son is sitting in a chair with his eye in front him on a plate. Aemond now has to learn how to maneuver around with one of his five senses damaged. (Honestly, I think a few scenes with Aemond struggling a bit with this would’ve been great).

If Viserys had just acknowledged Aemond’s detriment in that scene, maybe give him some reassurance, comfort, literally anything, he wouldn’t have remained vengeful years after the incident.

Helaena, the Dragon Dreamer

Viserys Targaryen Rant Part 2

The parenting of Helaena is the best representation of Viserys and Alicent’s dynamics with their kids,- Alicent struggling to connect with her child, while Viserys the parent who would’ve had a better shot at connection is nowhere to be found.

Helaena has correctly predicted several events in House of the Dragon so far, the loss of Aemond’s eye being the price of his dragon, Meleys bursting from beneath the dragon pit, and the Dance of the Dragons. The thing is, no one in universe is paying her any mind. The weight of prophecies in ASOIAF is a topic that George likes to explore, and he’s given us a few tragic characters like Rhaegar, who met their doom by interpreting a prophecy ā€˜incorrectly’.

Helaena is a dragon dreamer. She’s also a dragon rider, but we have no scenes with her on Dreamfyre. She represents the more mystical part of House Targaryen, as she possesses the power that prevented them from the Doom. Yet her father, who is a deeply interested in these aspects of being Targaryen, doesn’t speak to her about these things.

If Viserys had made an attempt to understand or simply bond with his daughter, none of the atrocities his family faced would have happened the way it did.

My sympathy for Team Green stems from the fact that literally every single one of them would’ve been way better people if not for Viserys.


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1 year ago

Daemon never respected nor loved anyone but himself period.

Trigger Warnings; grooming, manipulation, physical abuse, forced pregnancy, abuse, cheating, stillbirth, miscarriage.

What is actually astounding is fans thinking Daemon ever loved and respected Aemma.

Like, guys. While she was being forcibly impregnated for Viserys' dreams of a son, suffering through multiple pregnancies, miscarriages and stillbirths, he was advocating for himself to be made heir. When she died in childbirth and her son a while after her, he was out partying and joking about the "heir for a day". He then proceeded to groom, manipulate and almost ruin her only daughter's reputation, and after marrying Rhaenyra, he physically abused her (only show, season 1 episode 10) and very probably cheated on her (in the book Fire and Blood).

Daemon never respected nor loved Aemma. (Neither did he love Rhaenyra.)


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1 year ago
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.
Thank You For Your Honesty, Ser Criston.

Thank you for your honesty, Ser Criston.

1 year ago

"A Son for a Son šŸ˜šŸ‘šŸ˜½"

"Lucerys deserved it! šŸ™„šŸ˜ˆ"

"Can't wait to see Jaehaera die, and Alicent's bloodline with her! šŸ‘šŸ‘"

It's not even about the teams, it's about what being genuinely excited for someone's death, mostly innocent, makes you.

Get help, people. Get help.


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1 year ago

If you had the chance to change something about the dance of the dragons (TV show or book), what would it be? For example, how a character dies, which team a house is on,or an entire character personally. How would you change it to make the story better, in your opinion?ā™„ļøšŸ–¤šŸ’™šŸ’š

Ohh anon i've got a list.

When it comes to the tv show there are a few choices the writers made that just don't sit right with me.

Laenor

I do like the characterization they went for, he's a pretty cool dude who really loves his weird, dysfunctional family. What I really don't like is how they handled his death.

See I truly can't stand it when a character is sugar coated just because they're the protagonist and thus must be righteous and always objectively correct.

So to witness the writers white wash his murder, having him flee to essos instead of being killed by Rhaenyra pisses me off. I get that after showing them being good friends it would be very odd to have her kill him.

But that's the thing, they should have opted for a more ruthless Rhaenyra in the first place!

Laenor's death in the books (at least for me) was the first instance of Rhae Rhae making morally wrong choices in order to pursue her ultimate goal. It was compelling! Here she just takes the easy way out, without having to make a tough choice.

Also his survival really fucks her up when you really think about it. Now all her sons are bastards since her marriage to Daemon isn't valid, and for the upcoming season 2, how are they going to handle Addam and Seasmoke? Laenor is still alive, his dragon won't accept a new rider. This doesn't make any sense and just causes plotholes what the actual fu-

Sidenote: After Laenor's very moving speech on how he was done goofing off and was now willing to really step up for Rhaenyra and their family it's super strange to imagine him ditching them all immediately afterwards Lol.

Rhaenys

My gosh, where do I even begin with this woman?

She too is pretty cool at the start, but then episode 9 rolls around and I roll my eyes.

She's so hypocritical. She tries to shit on Alicent for "toiling in the service of men." When that's all she does in the goddamn story!

She wants Baela to get Driftmark, tells Corlys about it, he shuts off the whole plan cause he wants a kid who he's not even related to on the driftwood throne, and when she complains about it he dismisses her.

So what does feminist Rhaenys do about it?

She... submits to her husband, something she conveniently forgets about when talking to Alicent. My god. Just remove this entire exchange, it hurts to watch.

And the coronation scene, Jesus Christ! It was so cool in the books, why did they have to ruin it? Had they replaced it with something better I wouldn't have complained, but this is just, the worst.

Rhaenys shows how badass she is by.... Brutally crushing hundreds of small folks to death and almost slaughtering the greens.

Cool, cool, absolutely necessary. Thanks Sara.

And you know what's even more infuriating? When she flees to Dragonstone to inform Rhaenyra of all that happened. She says she didn't kill the greens cause she didn't wish to start a war. I'm sorry what?

That would have ended the war at the start! As glad as I am that Rhaenys didn't barbecue them it makes absolutely no sense!

If she had killed them there would have been no dance in the first place!

I hate these dumb show only moments. They needlessly complicated an already complicated story and just mess everything up.

There's probably other stuff I could rant on, like how Aegon was made a rapist sorely to make the audience think:

Oh look! The greens are so baad, they believe a rapist alcoholic douche should be in charge instead of our empowered dragon queen, they sure do suck!

Or how house Velaryon was disrespected and mistreated by D*emyra but still somehow decided to support Nyra's claim.

They didn't really have a motive to be greens though, so I think they should have stayed neutral. Their fervent black support makes no sense.

The writers really should have given them more reasons to back up the blacks or had their beloved queen treat them better so that their loyalty made more sense ( I mean holy hell I wonder how they will handle the two betrayers and Corlys's arrest lmao).

But other greens have already shat on these awful decisions and I won't beat a dead horse.

Book

When it comes to fire and blood I surprisingly have very little complaints, except of course, the Jaehaera situation.

My poor baby deserved better, I've made a post about it in the past

(where I ranted and said stuff I kind of regret now, don't post while very angry guys I don't recommend it)

tackling how the little queen was unnecessarily killed off and how her death genuinely adds nothing so why was it added? God I get upset just thinking about it lol.

Some people say George did it cause he needed Aegon's kids to be born after Viserys's, and apparently he couldn't fathom a married teen not having kids until her 20s, which is veery weird.

The more plausible theory is that he got rid of her cause he wanted more Velaryon queens to showcase how close they used to be to the Targs.

Which is something I had understood already thanks to Alyssa, the sea Snake and all the Velaryons who were masters of ships but whatever.


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1 year ago

I started off watching HotD without siding with either team, because come on, the Targs (black or green) are entertaining but aren't worthy of rooting for. In fact I like the idea of Jace on the Iron throne simply because he's bearing the y-chromosome of the Strongs. Basically, I'm just really really anti-royalist, anti-imperialist.

But the more I see how insane team Black is, the more I want to side with team Green out of a spite.

Team Green mostly recognizes the crimes of their characters and joke about mew mews and mommy's war criminal. Meanwhile team Black are rejoicing in the upcoming blood and cheese, because threatening to rape a 6 y.o. girl and murdering a 6 y.o. boy is what they deem as justice.

Team Black are so pro-racial superiority, it's kind of insane. The racist shit they say about Nettles. The romanticisation of incest as a way to keep blood pure, and how children of Daemyra are worthier of the throne because of their blood purity. How Hightowers, Velaryons and others are criticized for being ambitious yet Rhaenyra is praised for trying to put her non-Velaryon son on a throne he has no rights for.

"The Targaryens are the ones who created the iron throne!" Yes, with fire and blood, by burning and murdering people until they surrendered. It's like an nuclear country conquering non-nuclear countries, and creating a system based on racial superiority.

And did Strongs build a Driftmark for Lucerys to claim it? But he's a Targaryen, and "that's all that matters".

So no, I do not buy the whole "the blacks are heroes and morally righteous ones" shit at all. Fuck your Targaryen superiority.

1 year ago
"and Helaena, My Sweet Girl"

"and Helaena, my sweet girl"

Sometimes I wish that I could freeze the picture

And save it from the funny tricks of time

(requested by @lawolfe)


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1 year ago

Can we talk about how:

Mysaria never got pregnant by Daemon and miscarried?

We never saw Alicent in labour despite of the fact that she's a child bride in a marriage she had no say in?

Laena DIDN'T bear a deformed son that would shortly afterwards die and drive her to despair? Or that we didn't see her want to ride Vhagar one last time and dying on her way there and Daemon carrying her dead body back to bed?

Rhaena and Baela barely got consoled while we get endless scenes of Jace and Luke being attended to?

We didn't get to see Alicent crown Helaena at the coronation before Rhaenys unceremoniously interrupts them? The making of the Queen that captured the hearts of the smallfolk so much that her suffering caused the largest uprising in King's Landing?

Are we going to talk about how all that TOOK from all these female characters to give to a select few (e.g Rhaenyra) so as to market these grey female characters as being more 'sympthetic' than other female characters whose stories were so badly represented or in some cases utterly disregarded and not followed upon (like Rhaena and Baela)?

Peace out.


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1 year ago

Very well said, this whole blood purity thing is getting out of hand

why you always pretend to not understand what people are telling you in order to flip everything to your liking? 😭 Viserys has valyrian blood because he is a targaryen, and the only two other house with the same blood is velaryon and celtigar. Alicent's blood descended from the Andals, which is shared with most of the houses of Westeros apart from those three exceptions mentioned. The Valarian minority makes their blood more valuable. If alicent had she been to Valyria, thw situation would have been the same (her having andal blood wound have made her more valuable since she would have been surrounded by valyrian blood). So yes, alicent’s blood is not comparable as viserys as it show in hotd intro, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing like you interpreted

visenya Targaryen married maegor to a hightower. the hightowers are an old and respected house, that has married into the royal family prior to viserys and alicent's marrige.

F&B about the marriage :

"The Hightowers of Oldtown were an ancient and noble family, of impeccable lineage; there could be no possible objection to the king’s choice of bride."

"there could be no possible objection to the king's choice of bride".

prince aemon - jaehaerys's heir, married a baratheon. rhaenys is also half valyrian. but i don't see anyone talking about that.

you only care that alicent married viserys because you hate her. you only care about the targtowers being half targs because you hate them.

viserys originally planned to marry rhaenyra to a lannister. a non-valyrian. the idea that targs only marry valyrians is ridicules and so out of touch with show and book canon.

no anon, i'm not flipping anything to my liking. you sent me that bs post, didn't get the response you wanted and got mad. sorry, i'm just not into the whole "valyrian blood is superior" thing.


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1 year ago

I'm genuinely weirded out by team black fans that are so obsessed with the whole team Nyra vs team Aegon war that they feel bad for liking a character from an opposing faction.

Like those who say shit like:

"Oh Haelena is adorable! She's the ONLY green I like ^⁠_⁠^"

Or

"Aemond is such a hot and interesting character šŸ˜. But g-guys I'm still 100% team Rhae Rhae don't worry about it!"

Bro why are you saying it like it's a bad thing?We're not actually living in Westeros. You won't be thrown in the black cells for treason or something.

I'm personally team green ftw but that doesn't make me feel bad for liking a lot of black characters! It's quite shocking that a lot of fans don't get this. You would enjoy this show a lot more if you stopped mindlessly hating on your "enemies".


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1 year ago

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

TW: SCA, MURDER, CHILD MURDER AND CHILD DEATH, ABLEISM, SUICIDE MENT

People know that I love Jaehaera Targaryen and try to keep my mind in positive things about her, just reading headcanons and seeing art of her and Aegon, or her and her brothers and her mother. But I'm tired of even trying to do that, because this fandom is so weird about her, people still come after us at the minimum possibly of her surviving or at the first sight of someone saying they want her to live (the first two screenshots are from a Reddit post in which I shared an art or Jaehaera and Aegon III, that's all)

I'm tired of this "oh to keep her alive would be so cruel with her and Aegon" like they care for her.

Dude, she is just an innocent child, as much as Aegon III. They say "how can you want them married, her father killed his mother". And his father orchestrated the murder of her twin brother who led at the death of her mother. But we all know that that have nothing to do with her.

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN
WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

Both comments are from the same person šŸ’€ they start like "she wouldn't survive because that would be so cruel" (yeah, it is not cruel killing a 10yo girl) but then they can't stand the possibility of someone liking her and wanting her to live and they talk in the most despicable way about her and how she deserved to be replaced as soon as she died.

Why is it so difficult to accept the fact that the little girl has supporters who want her to live? But they can't, they need to be an asshole for free.

Jaehaera is a child, prone to cry, but happy. Her murder was cruel and unnecessary. It has nothing to do with her being the daughter of his mother's killer or with her being a green.

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Even if you doubt of Elio Garcia's words, it has never been stated for George that the reason to kill her was because she, as a green, needed to die.

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WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

Like why, what did the little girl to deserve to be minimized? Just to exist and be from the TG.

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

They really think that everyone is like them, that everyone is going to lose their mind for the possibility of a little child from the other team surviving.

Joffrey's death, even while the dance was still happening, was unnecessarily cruel and of course I won't get mad for the possibility of him surviving. The only criticism I would make about that is that it would be so biased to have 5 kids of the TB surviving and killing all the TG kids. But not because of that I will be like "he NEEDS to die" and will get mad for people wanting him to survive. If that happens it would be fair for me wanting Jaehaera to survive too.

And god, the ableism here is so unhinged.

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN
WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

It is so fucking ironic how they can be like "how can you like a character with two lines" and "she is a r*tarded child and she was never gonna give Aegon III heirs" like decide, she "only has two lines" or you can know everything about her, her mental state and how would have been her life?

And lets start with the cruelty toward her: it is so fucking weird

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN
WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN
WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

They want her to suffer like what, what did her to deserve that???

I will add more screenshots but I've reached my limit in this post 🫔

They have gone so far as to wish her little brother to be raped and murdered, to mess with the actress who plays Jaehaera (who is a little girl) and to compare her to rats or stray dogs.

People who know me knows that I am on the "separe between fiction and reality" side, but talking like this is too much, getting angry for people not thinking like you because they want her to live and commenting their posts mad because she NEEDS to die is too much, and messing with the actress who plays the girl is too much.


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1 year ago

You know one of the things that saddens me the most about the dance (other than the deaths of my faves and it's general outcome) Is the extinction of dragons.

There were such majestic creatures and it really hurts to see them die out like that. But I then I start thinking about how the future would have turned out with dragons still alive and...

Aerys II with a dragon?

The battle of the Trident but Rhaegar has a dragon? (Actually, since he descends from a Targaryen princess, Bobby B could also have a dragon if he managed to claim one and that's equally terrifying.)

Actually, with dragons on their side the Mad King would have won the war 100% and basically all of our faves would have died or never been born.

The blackfyre rebellions but both sides have dragons? Shit, that'd be a second dance.

Aegon IV with a dragon? ( No wait nevermind , he'd be too fat to get on it anyway)

Suddenly I'm so glad these Targs never had the chance to get their nasty hands on them.

Sorry Morning, but I'm kind of glad you were the last one.


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1 year ago

oh yeah also. I will get people in my inbox telling me to kill myself over this, but: I do think that fake murdering the consistent father figure of your children who is a bit emotionally absent but very reliable and a good person and replacing him with daemon is a decision that is going to be bad for those children. even though she does it to elevate her claim. and then having a fourth son who has bright blonde hair and beautiful legitimate purple eyes and naming him AEGON is something that is going to be politically bad for your eldest three suspiciously brunette sons.

luke seems to idolize rhaenyra but i don’t know what’s going on with jace. he does nottttt seem to like daemon and seems very protective of his mother against him, but also knows that she won’t tell him the truth about who he is even though everyone else WILL and I think on some level, he has to have at least considered that she might have killed Laenor. i wish they had spent time on this!!!!ļæ¼

1 year ago

Yess I get you. I only got into asoiaf this summer while watching House of the Dragon. I was like "this is so good! It would be even more amazing if I knew more about this world!" And so in August I started reading. Honestly, I'd wanted to get my hand on these books for so long, that when I actually got them I couldn't put them down. I read all of Agot and Acok in a month! I still didn't have to worry about school so I stayed awake every night till 3 am reading, it was insane. But once September rolled around and I ordered Asos school started and so I slowed down a lot. It took me like 2 months just to finish it and I'm still only half way through Affc. Also I took a break from the main series books to read Fire & Blood now. Have been loving it thus far

only getting into asoiaf this year is so stressful. im so far behind everyone and the books are so heavy i cant just blitz through them like id like too

Only Getting Into Asoiaf This Year Is So Stressful. Im So Far Behind Everyone And The Books Are So Heavy

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1 year ago

šŸŽ„ Send these trees to ten people you wish to have a good holiday and a happy new years!šŸŽ„

Thank you so much! Happy holidays to you too and all my readers!šŸ’•


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1 year ago

Viserys : I want Rhaenyra to succeed me as queen as she's my eldest living child. If anyone dares to object my decision they'll be charged with treason!

Also Viserys: *Marries another woman and has sons by her who could have a better claim that Rhae's for the Lords. Doesn't legally change the law of succession to absolute primogeniture, thus treating Rhaenyra's status as heir like a one time exception. Doesn't do anything to prevent her from having bastards so her position is even shakier than before. Doesn't teach her how to rule properly and allowes her to do as she pleases. Appoints Otto Hightower as hand even though he's known for being a schemer and generally a shady guy who obviously favors his grandson for the throne. Lets her marry her unstable uncle who's the reason he named her heir in the first place*

Half of Westeros: *understandably doesn't accept her and supports her brother instead, thus starting a devastating civil war*

Viserys from the seven hells:

Viserys : I Want Rhaenyra To Succeed Me As Queen As She's My Eldest Living Child. If Anyone Dares To

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1 year ago

"I hate Alicunt, religious bitch took down the targ tapestries"

Oh? Religious? So you hate my mother? She's religious and took down some of my dad's things to put up some of her religious stuff because it's her house too. You hate me? I'm religious. Or are you just looking for something even remotely valid to pinpoint your hate to so you don't seen like a misogynistic twat?

1 year ago

Blackstans- it is so cruel to ask for an eye! How dare Alicent be such a cruel petty b****

Blackstans- A son for a son is only fair.

Looool. It’s only fair when it’s their side getting revenge, obviously.

But it’s very telling about how team black actually view these two ā€œcomparableā€ scenarios.

On one hand, you have a mother whose son was just maimed and lost an eye, and whose abusive husband is completely uncaring at the loss and chastises her for her anger. And her screaming and crying, begging for justice falls upon a room of deaf ears. So, she lashes out and decides to deliver justice herself on the actual perpetrator who stabbed her child. And this moment of pain is seen by the fandom as quintessential proof that Alicent is evil, vicious, and malicious. And she can never and will never be forgiven for this lapse in judgement. Even though she vocally regrets it and denies the opportunity for the eye when she’s calm and her mind is clear.

Meanwhile, we have a mother and step-father who lost the life of a child, which is terrible. And their solution is to kill another child as revenge. However this is a child that is unrelated to the death of their son. It’s the nephew of the murderer. A little boy that was completely uninvolved (and this isn’t including the rape threats and emotional torture done to Helaena who is ALSO uninvolved). And yet team black sees this as a morally justifiable solution and seem to revel in the murder. Even though the victim isn’t at fault.

It’s just hard to wrap your head around. Alicent wanting to hurt the boy who maimed her son is evil and unforgivable, even when she is sorry for her actions. But Rhaenyra and Daemon killing an innocent boy is ok because their son was killed by someone who is on the side of the father of that boy??

Neither situation is justifiable or ok. But team green doesn’t support an eye for an eye, while team black does support and even revels in a son for a son. And either way, they aren’t comparable because one is wanting justice against the perpetrator and the other is…wanting to kill an innocent kid for violent revenge.

1 year ago

Tell me you don’t understand the medieval setting without telling me you don’t understand the medieval setting

Tell Me You Don’t Understand The Medieval Setting Without Telling Me You Don’t Understand The Medieval

BT: omg consistent laws on who gets power is basically supporting slavery!

At this point I can only laugh

If you must know why keeping consistent laws around power transfers are important, I’ll draw a little comparison. Imagine if the US president decided that Joe Shmo from Canada will be the next US president without any election. That’s basically what Viserys did in medieval terms. Does it look weird to modern people? Yeah, but when you actually put yourself in that time frame you understand why having consistent laws creates stability and avoids war. Like how the inconsistent handoff of power from Viserys to his kids caused war!


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