Cursed Ship

“lol but why is this actually good” because i made it in earnest?? because i loved it??? because i love you??? because quality and humor are not mutually exclusive???? hold my hand. it’s okay

 Based on this post.

I’m tired.

someone help them

WIP drawing of flynn concept, can't wait to make a few comics w the characters eventually :)

theory time

So I was rewatching the Walten Files and came to a few different conclusions. Everyone in the fandom seems to think Bon is Jack, form what I see, but it wasnt clicking to me. After all, Bon killed Rosie, and it wouldnt make sense for Jack to kill his wife if he loved her- I get the whole “Jack lost it after losing his kids” but something really just wasnt clicking for me, so I did some deducting.

For a bit I assumed Jack was actually ShowBear for the above reason plus; He guided Sophie towards the truth, he seems much more of a “passive” presence, and idk he kinda fucking looks like Jack:

Like. Same fucking face shape and everything; if this was the case I assumed that maybe Bon was someone we havent met yet who was involved with Jack and Felix in some way.

And then I noticed some things:

“Rose should be home by then. If shes not, you call me. Got it?”

This made me think, alright. Could be a husband concerned about his wife. But outta nowhere? Why would Jack be concerned when Rosie is a functioning adult. Like what would he have to worry about? Why would he be worried about her not being back 4 hours when she was supposed to, while hes running the company and not home? Worried your wife not coming home from taking your daughter to the dentist isnt exactly normal unless he had a reason to think otherwise.

My immediate thought was that maybe Rose was cheating on Jack, or Jack suspected she was.

I really dont want that to be true, but then someone in the comments brought this up:

Theyre fucking right.

Wolf in sheeps clothing: Implying not everything is as it seems/ the wolf is lying.

Thinking deeper into this. Bon was playing “Hide and Seek” with Sha aka Rosie. That could be an implication to Jack having to go find Rosie because she may have been cheating. (Sophie also finds Sha in a chicken coop (?) Barn? only thing that could be thought of there is “roll in the hay” aka she was found cheating with someone else maybe?)

Not only this, but Rosie asks Sophie if shes “still beautiful”.

Jack could be concerned that when Rosie takes Sophie to the dentist, Rose could be cheating. That could imply that shes cheating with Sophie right there.

That could mean Rose is asking Sophie if Sophie still essentially loves her, or a better worded equivalent, after seeing her mother cheat on her father/ seeing her mother do something ugly.

(Sidenote, in the Relocation tape, Rosie is asking “Sophie, where am I?” Maybe Sophie saw the whole thing? WHy would she be asking for Sophie? Also Im pretty sure this shadow character is Felix, implying he saw what happened to Rosie to an extent,)

Moving on, @ LadyJadeShade on twitter mentioned to me that Bons chest is ripped out- could be implying Jacks heart is ripped out bc of Rosie cheating.

Taking that into consideration, I could 100% see why Jack would be angry enough to kill Rose while in turmoil in the Bon animatronic. That, and Ive heard that Little Bon could be representing Sophie which would make sense if her father is in/possessing Bon. (And Bon seemed to be having a mental breakdown after the kids where shown to be dead in the Bunny Farm video.)

TLDR; Rose might have been cheating on Jack, hence why he wanted to kill her in the first place after his death.

“He had 3 beautiful children,“

And maybe he wanted to “make his wife beautiful” too?

Another concern as well is, how did Jack die? I originally wanted to say if he was she showbear, then whatever was in Bon killed Jack, but that kinda went out the window.

Those are just some thoughts for now, if anything has been officially said that contradicts this stuff then lmk

Your response to my theory is incredibly privileged. To assume that you have to hate your spouse to cheat and that a woman can't have complicated feelings and complicated situations is essentially implying that women are above reproach and one dimensional. Not to mention incredibly black and white thinking. Furthermore, never said this was a fact, and Im surprised it blew up like it did lol

Anyway, I wasn't implying anything about Rose being one dimensional at all and only supporting her husband or making everyone feel bad for him(???). Like I said, I never said she was being a whore, I never said anything about her only being there to support Jack or something. I don't know how people took that away from this.

A deep and emotional character with several dimensions... Doesn't have to always be a good pure perfect person, or do the socially acceptable thing. I dont know why youre saying anything besides being a perfect loving motherly feminine figure instead of a human being who might fuck up is a bad thing, which feels like a sexist take in and of itself. And privileged; being a child growing up with a lot of complicated familial situations gives you several outlooks to several things at once, and humanises people. For better or for worse.

That being said, a cheater can still love a family and feel guilt, etc. Thats my point. I wasn't painting her as a demon like youre trying to go for; im saying, I think she mighta fucked up. because, Yanno, shes human.

Not to say Jack probably didn't as well, the implications of him probably being linked to Bon is telling, and Felix literally killed two kids and is also a deeper character. Case in point; people can fuck up and still be more than that, and you reducing my theory to "I hate woman and theyre whores" demonstrates weak critical thinking.

Anyway, I really don't care, you're free to disagree with whatever, but you couldn't keep a discussion going or a level head with this and instead implied accusations towards me about being misogynistic, which I really don't appreciate.

Man this is so random but this theory is stuck in my head and I wanna see how other people feel about it because I don't see people talk about it a lot (I have no clue if the link will go through properly since I've never put a link in a ask box)

https://www.tumblr.com/art-w0rm/667910993425350656/theory-time

Oh god not this theory again. I really truly try not to be mean to people for no good reason on this blog, but this theory is literally one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever seen in my entire life. I don't talk about this theory because to me it's like the walten files theory equivalent of that tubby custard mechanically separated chicken post.

Most of the time I genuinely don't even consider it worthy of my time, because it's nonsense, but this is a very nicely worded ask, and I really don't mean to dedicate any of the vitriol I hold towards this theory to You, poor anonymous person, so I will deconstruct it. I will go through the theory point-by-point and deconstruct why I disagree with it.

First up, this:

Showbear is not a character in The Walten Files anymore. Showbear was fully retconned and is never going to appear in the series again. He was effectively just a cameo of ThunderingStatic's (one of Martin's friends) OC, but when The Walten Files blew up and people started assuming Showbear was Martin's character, Static decided to withdraw his character from the series and focus putting him in other projects.

Martin talked about this on Twitter forever ago, but I wouldn't be able to find that tweet now. But here's a bit from the interview he did with KnowYourMeme back in 2021 where he talks about it:

Now this:

This is just stupid to me? Like a complete logical incongruity? I barely even know how describe what is dumb about this because I can't even fathom how anyone draws this conclusion from this information. How is it strange for a man to say 'if my wife isn't home by the time she said she was going to be, let me know, in case something happened.'????? Why would Rosemary be out cheating on her husband with her fucking daughter with her??? If Rosemary was cheating on her husband why would her whole life collapse when he went missing? If Rosemary was cheating on her husband why would she show up at the restaurant every day after he disappeared asking if anyone had seen him and hoping to find him alive??? Why would she make paintings of herself and him together after he disappeared????? What the fuck are you talking about?

Ok now this:

Whatever. This is maybe the most coherent part of the theory, to me. I definitely agree that Sha evokes a 'wolf in sheep's clothing' sort of aesthetic, but I do remember Martin saying something in a Twitter Q&A at one point about how that wasn't actually intentional, and that Bon was the character he actually meant to seem unusually predatory. I looked for a while and couldn't find a screenshot of that, but I did find this one where he says the thing about Bon:

So whatever. take that with a grain of salt.

I don't even know what to say. here. Whatever. sure she was rolling in the hay

yeah Rosemary is asking if she's still beautiful because she cheated on her husband and not because she was chopped up and stuffed inside a big animatronic sheep. I think this is correct and is the True Deep Lore.of the walten files. I'm sure this doesn't have anything to do with the recurring motif of the double-meaning behind the word Beautiful either.

I don't know why it's weird that the lost lingering spirit of a mother would be calling out to her only living child. I Don't know why that needs additional explanation involving this batshit infidelity conspiracy theory.

Sha's chest is also ripped out

So is Banny's, honestly? Just a little less?

ok now this:

I guess I can't disprove this except that I think this is dumb. I think this is a really incredibly stupid logical leap to make. Y'know I really meant to go into this levelheadedly and very calmly go through every point and talk about why I think it's Decisively Disagreeable or whatever but I can't. I really can't. I just cannot keep my patience with this sort of thing.

You'd think if there was an infidelity aspect here it would've been lampshaded in some respect, at all, in the old /sophiewalten findjackwalten page text. Where it's literally Sophie talking to Jenny about what she remembers about her family.

Especially if the idea is that Sophie is meant to have been there. You'd think something like that would have come up here. Not 'she was nice and a good mom until my dad disappeared and her mental health started getting worse'

How did we get here. What happened

While we're dunking on callout posts (good) I would especially like to dunk on the kind of callout posts that are like:

"<OP> is a <particular kind of bigot> here's our 20 page google doc of proof":

Irrelevant information

Irrelevant information

A completely innocuous joke that the OP made which is only bigoted if you approach it with the worst faith possible

A ton of screencaps that provide nothing except to pad the google doc

Screencaps of someone else just randomly having their own beef with OP that they're airing publicly for literally no reason

Evidence that seems to suggest OP might be a member of the minority identity they're supposedly bigoted against

Evidence that OP likes a television series that tumblr currently hates

Evidence that OP likes something which, if you jump through a professional-dog-show number of hoops, can be linked to something bigoted

An out-of-context blurb which is probably what started all the drama and again only looks bad if you read it with intentionally bad faith

A passing reference to the fact that OP has profusely apologized but that's evidence that they're bad according to the callout post

Discord screenshots of someone who's clearly the aggressor interacting with OP trying to make them admit something

Evidence that OP is maybe just a little bit annoying, as if that's a crime on the Cringe Website

And then all the notes on the post are like "#omg I had no idea" "#blocking them #stay safe everyone" or "#god I always knew they were weird"

Next time I see that I'm taking someone's teeth.