Okay wait wait wait. Actually. Which I of these characters is there the most hype to see in Marzenie?
hello, can you tell us more about cannibalism please? (This is in reference to the shark fin post and your additions about what happens eating human flesh)
Okay sure!
So cannibalism psychologically occurs in one of three scenarios
Survivalist cannibalism
Narcissistic cannibalism
Psychosis triggered cannibalism
The first two are the most common, Survivalist cannibalism is merely a result of situational desperation although interestingly it’s been found that people who engaged in it showed far less apprehension to do it again and less disgust then the average person, which in my opinion implies the aversion humans have towards Cannibalism is social rather then innate, the most famous example of this was the Donner party, a group of American settlers who became stranded in the snow on their way west and were forced to eat their dead until rescue
Narcissistic cannibal’s are something we’re all familiar with but probably don’t realize it, the vast majority of cannibalistic murderers are this type, the most famous example of this is of course Jeffery Dahmer, what most people don’t understand about this case and the cases of most other cannibal serial killers is that the main focus of their crimes usually isn’t the cannibalism itself but rather other acts towards their victims and the killing itself, that’s why these crimes are often done in tandem to sexual ones as the killer in question’s reasoning is centered around power dynamics; their motivation rests within the idea that eating something is the ultimate way to be above it, a sort of food-chain complex
Last but not least there’s Cannibalistic ideation as a symptom of psychosis or other schizoaffective disorders, psychosis is what most people refer to when they talk about “going insane”, it’s a state any particular disturbed person can fall into which causes hallucinations and delusions, the desire to eat human flesh as a symptom while uncommon is not unheard of- in fact there’s several sub-disorders that have been named to define more specific and repeated circumstances
“Windigo psychosis” is one of these specific disorders which has only been observed within Native American communities, it’s thought that cultural context can affect how a persons psychosis manifests, and for Natives of North America within Algonquin speaking regions this particular form of it can occur which includes some amount of cannibalistic ideation as its symptom
(although I’d like to note that in cases of psychosis regardless of circumstances its rather uncommon for the person in question to act upon the thought, it’s a pervasive idea that schizophrenic or psychotic individuals are dangerous due to the frequent violent thoughts which can occur for these individuals, but it must be said that violent crimes are not committed by these people as often as some think, and self harm is far more common in these situations then the harm of others)
With that disclaimer out of the way! Let’s talk about pseudo-cannibalism! That’s not a real term that’s just what I call it, but it’s when a person only consumes a small, specific part of another human or prepares them in a very specific way, these category also includes ritualistic cannibalism and cannibalism as a death rite
Some interesting examples of this include Egyptian mummy candy! The creation of this substance entails the regular mummification process in which a dead body has its organs removed before being sewn back up, but rather then being wrapped in cloth the sarcophagus is filled with honey and left for a long time, in addition the person in question also consumed honey before death to really just be full of honey, this process is referred to as mellification and it’s thought that the substance produced was used as medicine once hardened, although I must stress that mellification is a theory and has not been confirmed to have actually happened in ancient Egypt by archaeologists, still it’s extremely interesting and I wanted to talk about it even if it hasn’t been confirmed as real
Although you know what kind of mummy eating actually did happen? Mummy parties! In Victorian England and America mummies we’re all the rage, people would buy them to keep in their house or host mummy parties which on occasion entailed crushing up bits of the mummy into powder and eating or SNORTING it! Sometimes the powder was even used as paint by combining it with sunflower oil- these practices are unfortunately why we don’t have many mummies anymore
As for cannibalism as a death rite, the practice has been observed in places like Brazil and Peru, and while the practice is essentially retired in the modern day there’s plenty of places that did so in the past
Okay that’s about all I’ve got off the top of my head, I encourage looking into into it yourself though! There’s many interesting things to be learned, additionally I’m not sure how accurate all of my information is, cannibalism is an obscure topic so sometimes stuff gets spread that isn’t true, like mellification and how we aren’t sure if it ever actually happened or not! Hope you enjoyed my ramble though!
more people need to draw mari with a knee brace!!
nham nham hmmmm delicious
Sunny and Basil in the hospital after the confrontation
Sunny (trying to explain headspace): “and in my dreams it seemed like everything was nice but-“
Basil: (still coming down from anesthesia) “in my dreams you were god anddd you kissed me”
Sunny: “…?”
Basil: “can you call the nurse, my stab wound hurts.”
but I'm too lazy.
and I have to finish something...
Ok so this is Alter Boy’s actual appearance, that other one is just how he’s usually presented, I’ve mentioned before how he’s a very antagonistic character towards Marze despite not directly attacking him, but that’s only half true- Alter boy DOES attack Marze but only in very specific situations
It has to do with my idea of Marzenie having multiple routes (game-like talk again), in my head this fight is part of the good ending route
(which can be taken as a metaphor for a lot of things but the interpretation I’m going with is that Basil has to learn to confront his paranoia’s around others, drawing on how Alter Boy is a very inaccurate representation of Kel based more on Basil’s inner anxieties and bitterness then who Kel actually is, to confront him is to push aside this warped perspective and begin to trust that others aren’t out to get him)
Anyhow- I had the idea for Alter Boy spinning his head around pretty early on but it was combined with several other scattered ideas that hadn’t been decided upon- so certain things I’ve said have since become inaccurate, as to why he’s green? Well believe or not but that’s a very very silly nod to him and reflection being related, mirrors are technically green! Look it up it’s very interesting
Also slight tinges of color in Marzenie look cool to me. There’s that too
That’s about all I have to say in regards to this, Alter boy being a weird owl creature isn’t super relevant- it’s one of those rule of cool moments where I disregard symbolism because I thought an idea I had was scary/visually cool enough to use anyway, I just had it in my head that if Marzenie were a game it would be MORTIFYING if his overworld sprite suddenly spun its head around to lead into the fight- even if I can’t execute this it’s still a very fun idea to me, and I’ve thought about using it for an animation later on
Last thing: His face gave me a lot of trouble so here’s a little demo of all the ones I went through trying to get it right ⬇️
The Gaang take another vacation at the library
IM ACTUALLY SO HAPPY THAT YOU LIKE HOW HE TURNED OUT :)))
I WAS SO STRESSED POSTING THIS, BUT NOW IM SOOOO HAPPY I'M LITERALLY JUMPING UP AND DOWN
I'LL PROBABLY POST ANOTHER FANART OF MARZE MAYBE IN LIKE 2 TO 3 DAYS??
I even have a few little Marze plushie doodles in my math notebook, coz I was waaaay too bored..🤷
Buuut....That motivated me to actually draw the plushie 🙇♀️🙇♀️🙇♀️
AND THE IDEA WITH THE LITTLE CARE PACKS??? AWWWW
FIRST TIME POSTING FANART WOOOHOOOEYOOW
Marze plushie...save me Marze plushie..
this is actually from one of the coolest omori au's i've ever looked at
YOU SHOULD GO CHECK IT, NOW!!1!!1
I also have more fanart that I cooked up, but Im not ready to post it yet :]
(take him with you) (he looks pretty excited) (...or scared.)
Marzenie time guysss
Here’s the Basil design!
Other versions plus a little elaboration on the design:
Cloakless + wing design versions
So for the sake of specificity I’ve been calling him “Marze” whenever I refer to the in-dream version of Basil, Same naming convention as (Hikik)Omori, but don’t be mistaken, Marze is not an individual like Omori is, Marze is a costume- just the suit that Basil wears while venturing the horrors of his mind, Marze is merely how Basil conforms himself to the world of Marzenie, none of the characters there are really human so it’d be out of place if Basil himself was (this can be viewed as a form of self-dehumanizing on Basil’s part but it’s mostly for the artists sake- the meta explanation is just as important as the in-world one)
Now for the design itself:
maybe the symbolism here is really obvious but I wanna explain it anyway, the Deer parts (antlers and legs) are representative of Basil’s general personality as a whole- he’s skittish and vulnerable yes but when forced deer do fight back, an idea that’s very important to Marzenie given it displays Basil LITERALLY fighting to survive against his inner struggles, that and the creator (me) really likes deer … so there’s that
Otherwise, the wings are Moths wings, which seems like it’s a really simple connection to Sunny and the idea that Moths are drawn to light but it’s a little more literal in Marzenie because it’s not just that Sunny is Basils sun in a metaphorical way it’s that in Marzenie he actually IS, in the world of Marzenie there is a Sun-God character that is very obviously just Sunny, which is both about bit about Basil’s view of Sunny as someone without flaw but also about just how much Basil relies on him… or rather the IDEA of him
Sun-God-Sunny is a very important presence in Marzenie because it’s his very absence that’s made Marzenie what it is, returning to that Map art I made for a moment here
Within Marzenie it’s not just that Sunny is a god but that he’s a dead/‘sleeping’ god, and in his absence the world has become cold and dark (which necessitates that lantern in the desgin above)
Yes Basil had issues before the incident but having friends and having SUNNY made that bearable and something he could have gradually put behind him, being abandoned so suddenly in such a traumatic way has thrown Basil’s mind into a state of eternal darkness, the world of Marzenie is cold and dark and dangerous, and all of this is the most literal possible representation of the damage Sunny’s absence has inflicted on Basil’s mental state
Sunny’s character in Marzenie being the Sun god is also why the center of it and the beginning of the journey is a church, the only hope Basil has anymore is that Sunny will return and they can be friends again, so he’s build an alter in his mind dedicated to this hope, this prayer
Also religious imagery is fun <3, also it’s a parallel to the church of something and how Basil’s house is at the center of Vast forest (and thus the center of Sunny’s mind, they center their places of safety around each other, even if for Basil that place is a tiny candlelit alter in the center of a dark woodland while for Sunny that Place of safety is EVERYTHING in his mind, so vastly different and yet sort of the same <- does any of this make sense? Probably not, who cares, it’s my AU and I WILL ramble as much as I like ok)
🇵🇱,any pronouns, Omori hyperfixation rn, omori au by dannybobany on pfp :3 pfp made by me >:)
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