ma there's a weird snowman outside
Thanks you! I appreciate it and will send it to you (if I ever actually write it lol)
Also I looked at how I asked and it appears I was . . . very excited *side eyes the all caps first five words* I'm so sorry if this doesn't make any sense
we love the idea of feral ford but even moreso we love the idea that stan mimics him sometimes
like
stan: sorry bud i gotta go through your stuff real quick
ford: *angry cat noise* D:<
stan: don’t ‘mreh’ me
ford: mreh
stan: MrEh
To the anon/gravity falls comparaison, I can totally see it. I imagine meeting Ivor to finally fight the Wither would go like this
Ivor : I have extra weapons from the Old order so take anything you want
Make Jesse : *grab a diamond sword*
Female Jesse : and I’ll have a…. CROSSBOW
Ivor : … wouldn’t you rather like, a sword or something ?
Female Jesse : C R O S S B O W
Ivor : fair enough
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Rip Romeo you would have loved Henry VIII (maybe too much)
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mixing concrete with chicken stock instead of water to give it a richer flavor profile
Am I the only one who noticed just how SAD Mabel was in Mabel Land? She was nowhere near the excitement and happiness she felt when she first held Waddles or when she shares a laugh with Stan or when she admires her smart brave brother. There was this deliberate undercurrent in every word she spoke of a girl whose heart was broken. (seriously MAJOR props to Kristen Schaal for getting that across in her voice alone)
That’s why Dipper could say with complete certainty “You’re not happy here”. And Mabel KNEW IT, she knew it from the start! She just needed to hear the words spoken out loud. Which is often what needs to happen for a person to realize that what they’re doing is wrong.
someone give fitz an award. not for anything in particular he just kinda thrives on the validation
The only kind of hero I can admire is the one who can defeat a three headed ghast and land in the coolest way possible, but still makes decisions like stepping on a pressure plate linked to a piston that kicks them in the face.
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#i really do think that people are able to distance themselves from bill’s actions because he’s not human#the book of bill#
you just made my point so much more succinctly than I did lol
This is going to be a long post, but I don't know how to do the "read more" thing, sorry.
Bear with me for a minute. So I realized recently that I don't actually see that much Mabel or Ford hate, it's mostly stuff I hear from other people. (What I see is generally more subtle, like I read a fic that was good, but Ford took responsibility for Filbrick kicking Stan out. What was he supposed to do? He's 17 too! I also saw someone say the apocalypse wasn't Mabel's fault, it was Ford's. I'd just like to say that it was Bill's fault and Ford was manipulated into building that portal.)
But I do see a lot of Billford. It keeps on showing up in my suggested communities and the "For You" thing, despite The Book Of Bill portraying it as a very manipulative, horrifically abusive relationship. (When I say relationship, I don't necessarily mean romantic. It could have been a completely platonic horrifically abusive relationship.) And I have to wonder if, because Bill is a triangle, we let him get away with things we wouldn't if he were a human and/or doing these things directly to Ford.
Say that there was a movie. In it, there are two human men. Their relationship is clearly built on manipulation, and when the manipulated realizes that he's being manipulated, he tries to leave. The manipulator proceeds to torture him. You see this onscreen and it's horrible. The manipulator drives a nail through this guy's hand, shoves spiders down his throat, humiliates him . . .
Would people ship these two characters? This is the main fandom I'm in, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say probably not. (I'd like to say that I don't have a problem with people who write them as together . . . as long as it's portrayed as the abusive relationship it actually WAS and not a good relationship.)
All of those were actual things that happened in The Book of Bill. I didn't even mention the psychological torture (He makes Ford forget his OWN NAME) and forced sleep deprivation.
But Bill is a triangle. Bill isn't doing these things directly to Ford. He's doing them while in Ford's body, which is arguably possibly more horrific than if Bill was a separate person doing these things to him, but it's not something that could happen in real life.
But in this analysis of Ford: https://archiveofourown.org/works/58698496/chapters/158032750 when speaking of the torture Ford endured during Weirdmageddon, Callipraxia mentions that the fact that people can't electrocute others "takes at least some of the realism and therefore some of the horror out of the situation." (I apologize if this quote is incorrect, I couldn't find the part where she says this in this quite long work.)
And that makes me wonder if, again because Bill is a triangle and the things he does are literally impossible, it makes people less inclined to see his relationship with Ford as abusive when I have read two separate analyses (one of them is the one referred to above) that straight up say "This reads like a domestic abuse situation." One of them (the one NOT linked above, I'll look for it later) says that Bill hits every. Single. Criteria. For an abuser.
Even before Ford learned what Bill was really there to do, their relationship wasn't good. Bill doesn't show up for months and when Ford asks him where he's been, Bill responds by basically gaslighting him and making him doubt McGucket.
And there's one more thing I noticed. I wasn't in the GF fandom when the show was airing, but I'm pretty sure Billdip didn't become a popular ship until after Sock Puppet Opera, much the same as Billford wasn't so popular until TBOB. It's a pattern of "Bill abuses someone, then gets shipped with that someone." It's quite disturbing.
I know people are going to ship what they're going to ship, but Bill x Pines family members really shouldn't be so popular imo.
Tl;dr: If Bill were a human and you saw him torturing Ford, would you still ship them?
I'm pretty sure I forgot some of what I was going to say, so I might edit this later or reblog it with the extra information.
I do want to say that I do NOT support being rude, sending hate comments or death threats to people who do ship this. Don't do that. Just wanted to say, just in case.
I also want to say that though I put "anti Billford" and "anti Billdip" in the tags, I'm pretty sure I'm not an anti, though I haven't been able to fully figure out what the term means.
Another addendum: I am NOT qualified to be talking about abuse.
This is just a theory.
Im noticing a lot of spears in my direction Whats up with that
ok but can we talk about how FUCKED UP it is that mabel made an alternate version of dipper?
not fucked up she did that, (its p fucked up but hear me out) but fucked up she felt like she had to
like she felt like dipper put her down so much she made a different “more supportive” version of him
and not to mention how even though dipper clearly hated him, he never held it against mabel
dont mind me I like making myself sad for stupid reasons
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