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Rip Romeo you would have loved Henry VIII (maybe too much)

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I forgot one of the best ones . . .

My sister after I tell her about people blaming Mabel: "I can see why, but she's also a twelve year old. She made a very reasonable decision for a twelve year old."

Watching Gravity Falls with siblings is great.

"I didn't think it was possible to be a worse guardian than Stan, but at least he has some idea of child endangerment." - my sister when Ford brought Dipper to the alien ship.

"That's not up to him, that's up to his parents." - my sister on Ford's apprenticeship offer.

"Is she about to get Bill'd?" - my brother when Mabel is in the forest.

"This show took a turn." - my sister in the episode thats name is like Xqthfqx or something.

"It takes a special kind of brain to come up with this." - my brother on the same episode as the previous quote.

I’m so glad that someone mentioned the humor in this game because the face of sheer disbelief Ivor makes when you choose to take out the Eversource crown/white pumpkin instead of the ender pearl in the Crown Mesa right before getting apprehended is God-tier comedy

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There’s too many adults okay with casually drugging children in this series

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for better or for worse, i've written another stan pines one-shot despite my other wips begging for me to finish them...

all these things i've tried, boy

"stan pines deals with the aftermath of sock opera as clumsily as he knows how. "

Me: shipping is weird

Also me: literally writing dipcifica fanfiction

. . . If you're curious

Considering making a GF themed in-character cookbook, because I love this sort of thing and we're probably never going to get an official one

The conceit being Mabel's putting together a recipe scrapbook before she leaves so she and Dipper can take home all the greasy garbage delicious food they ate that summer!

Ideas:

Canon foods like pitt cola, mabel juice, cookie chips and burrito bites

Everyone from Mayor Tyler to Wendy contribute! Bill might even hijack it for a spell with his own absolutely do not try at home recipes.

Where canon lets us down, themed foods characters would probably serve (ford's stuffed percepshrooms, Lil’ Gideons officially branded™ lil’ ol sweet potata casserole)

And obviously I would release this for free as a fan project, I'm just here for the love of the game lmao

Anyway, tell me if you're interested or have any suggestions. :)b

#i really do think that people are able to distance themselves from bill’s actions because he’s not human#the book of bill#

you just made my point so much more succinctly than I did lol

I have a theory.

This is going to be a long post, but I don't know how to do the "read more" thing, sorry.

Bear with me for a minute. So I realized recently that I don't actually see that much Mabel or Ford hate, it's mostly stuff I hear from other people. (What I see is generally more subtle, like I read a fic that was good, but Ford took responsibility for Filbrick kicking Stan out. What was he supposed to do? He's 17 too! I also saw someone say the apocalypse wasn't Mabel's fault, it was Ford's. I'd just like to say that it was Bill's fault and Ford was manipulated into building that portal.)

But I do see a lot of Billford. It keeps on showing up in my suggested communities and the "For You" thing, despite The Book Of Bill portraying it as a very manipulative, horrifically abusive relationship. (When I say relationship, I don't necessarily mean romantic. It could have been a completely platonic horrifically abusive relationship.) And I have to wonder if, because Bill is a triangle, we let him get away with things we wouldn't if he were a human and/or doing these things directly to Ford.

Say that there was a movie. In it, there are two human men. Their relationship is clearly built on manipulation, and when the manipulated realizes that he's being manipulated, he tries to leave. The manipulator proceeds to torture him. You see this onscreen and it's horrible. The manipulator drives a nail through this guy's hand, shoves spiders down his throat, humiliates him . . .

Would people ship these two characters? This is the main fandom I'm in, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say probably not. (I'd like to say that I don't have a problem with people who write them as together . . . as long as it's portrayed as the abusive relationship it actually WAS and not a good relationship.)

All of those were actual things that happened in The Book of Bill. I didn't even mention the psychological torture (He makes Ford forget his OWN NAME) and forced sleep deprivation.

But Bill is a triangle. Bill isn't doing these things directly to Ford. He's doing them while in Ford's body, which is arguably possibly more horrific than if Bill was a separate person doing these things to him, but it's not something that could happen in real life.

But in this analysis of Ford: https://archiveofourown.org/works/58698496/chapters/158032750 when speaking of the torture Ford endured during Weirdmageddon, Callipraxia mentions that the fact that people can't electrocute others "takes at least some of the realism and therefore some of the horror out of the situation." (I apologize if this quote is incorrect, I couldn't find the part where she says this in this quite long work.)

And that makes me wonder if, again because Bill is a triangle and the things he does are literally impossible, it makes people less inclined to see his relationship with Ford as abusive when I have read two separate analyses (one of them is the one referred to above) that straight up say "This reads like a domestic abuse situation." One of them (the one NOT linked above, I'll look for it later) says that Bill hits every. Single. Criteria. For an abuser.

Even before Ford learned what Bill was really there to do, their relationship wasn't good. Bill doesn't show up for months and when Ford asks him where he's been, Bill responds by basically gaslighting him and making him doubt McGucket.

And there's one more thing I noticed. I wasn't in the GF fandom when the show was airing, but I'm pretty sure Billdip didn't become a popular ship until after Sock Puppet Opera, much the same as Billford wasn't so popular until TBOB. It's a pattern of "Bill abuses someone, then gets shipped with that someone." It's quite disturbing.

I know people are going to ship what they're going to ship, but Bill x Pines family members really shouldn't be so popular imo.

Tl;dr: If Bill were a human and you saw him torturing Ford, would you still ship them?

I'm pretty sure I forgot some of what I was going to say, so I might edit this later or reblog it with the extra information.

I do want to say that I do NOT support being rude, sending hate comments or death threats to people who do ship this. Don't do that. Just wanted to say, just in case.

I also want to say that though I put "anti Billford" and "anti Billdip" in the tags, I'm pretty sure I'm not an anti, though I haven't been able to fully figure out what the term means.

Another addendum: I am NOT qualified to be talking about abuse.

This is just a theory.

Thanks you! I appreciate it and will send it to you (if I ever actually write it lol)

Also I looked at how I asked and it appears I was . . . very excited *side eyes the all caps first five words* I'm so sorry if this doesn't make any sense

we love the idea of feral ford but even moreso we love the idea that stan mimics him sometimes

like

stan: sorry bud i gotta go through your stuff real quick

ford: *angry cat noise* D:<

stan: don’t ‘mreh’ me

ford: mreh

stan: MrEh

do you think ford pines ever got to do like a fun space heist or something or was he so on the “kill bill” train at all times that the rest of the cool inter-dimensional criminals were like “don’t invite him to the hangout man he’s just gonna rant and rave about that damn triangle the whole time”