IF ODYSSEUS IS TRADITIONALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAM THAT MAKES TELEMACHUS A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING

Or maybe Ares is the one who wants to pair them up!?

He would one day run to Penelope in the middle of her training and shout in excitement "You won't believe this, but I think I found a perfect boyfriend for you!"

And Ares would try to describe Ody in the best way possible while Penelope doesn't like the idea of being with god because on her head, the god would probably want s*x and nothing more.

I have an idea for an au, basically the entire plot of God Odysseus, but instead of Penelope, it is now the daughter of Ares because you know Spartan heritage. How would that work out compared to Odysseus?

I think the only change is Ares would be protective of his daughter. But he also helped train and raise Ody so he knows he would be a good match for Penelope.

What if god Odysseus was the son of Poseidon? How much would that would change in Ody's life?

A LOT would change. Poseidon would be a helicopter parent to his son. Ody as a god of safety would focus on assisting sailors and shipwrecked people, but Poseidon would punish any man who tries to take advantage of his innocent son.

Ody would live on a hard to reach island and any nymph/god/siren/etc that would potentially inhabit it would have to be approved by Poseidon.

The reason why is because Ody is due to living near the sea he always helped people lost there but sadly some sailors out of desperation would want to do unspeakable to the beautiful young looking man with wings.

Odysseus would have wings similar to a seagull or albatross. He is also more sheltered so he relies on stories shared by people to know more about the world.

It is almost like a currency to him. You can ask him a favour and he will accept if you in exchange tell his an interesting story that he didn't hear before.

Odysseus would meet Penelope when she was sailing with her family and she accidentally fell overboard during a storm. He helped her and took her to his island because she had no idea how to explain the Ody location of Sparta. So they would spend a few days together and at night Ody was flying and trying to locate her home.

Once he did it he took her to safety. They fell in love and Ody promised to visit her but also he warned her to not try to seek him or Poseidon might punish her.

He was visiting her once a week but her cousins started to suggest that he just has another lover on his island. She didn't believe them but once her father wanted to marry her off she decided to risk everything and swim to Odysseus.

Poseidon was about to strike her with his trident but Ody shielded her with his wings. Penelope seeing it started to worry and tried to help Ody despite being in danger. Poseidon was impressed and allowed her to be with his son but she wasn't allowed to invite her family over. (There would be an additional "myth" about that). She became a goddess once she reached her twenties so she would be in a similar "age" as Odysseus.

There would be a story where Jason and Argonauts accidentally landed on Ody's island where the young god helped them and told them that they can take any food but they can't steal any treasures or stay for longer than two nights. They at first agreed but one of them got fascinated by pearl jewelry and stole a necklace. Also Jason forgot that they were there already for a day when Ody explained the rules and because of it they stayed for a day too long. Because of it they stumbled upon angry Poseidon who assumed that they wanted to hurt his son. They promised that they didn't touch him but Poseidon told them that he will only believe them if the thief who stole the necklace reveals himself and experiences a proper punishment. At first they wanted to blame Heracles since he would most likely survive it but then even started claiming to be the thief. Impressed Poseidon allowed them to go but as a punishment he moved their boat so their journey would take longer than needed.

I thought of Dio who would show up later (after Ody and Menelaus would be married for at least a few years)

It could be extra funny if it happened after Diomedes was crowned.

Imagine Menelaus arriving in Argos with his wife only to see this young alpha being instantly smitten with his omega.

Odysseus would be oblivious to Dio's advances meanwhile Menelaus would wrap himself around Ody and grow any time Dio is (for his liking) too close to the queen of Ithaca.

Also I would not be shocked if Menelaus was a type of person who respected Ody as a strategist and a wise queen (mostly thanks to Athena) but at the same time he would panic seeing her having a problem with reaching for something from a high shelf or at the chance of her possibly being left alone with an alpha that isn't her family hahaha

What would happen if Agamemnon found out that Odysseus is female Omega during the courting of Helen?

Would he want to blackmail her/court her/ or maybe demand that she marries Menelaus since he wants to ensure a throne for his brother (not being sure if Helen would pick any of them)

There are a few different scenarios that could happen. But he wouldn't attack her. That just wouldn't happen. Because a. Thats a bad look for him to attack an omega (especially an omega woman) who's the guest of his host and b. He had braincells prior to the war so he wasn't a complete fool

1. He gets her to reveal herself to everyone else and now she is getting hounded by everyone else along with Helen. (He would make a fool of her in front of everyone when he outs her too)

2. He attempts to blackmail her into getting Helen to pick him and would demand she marry his brother so he has a throne. And this Would also include getting her to reveal herself and humiliating her. The hardest part is convincing his brother to go along with it because Menelaus isn't the type to marry someone doing it out of distress. (But he would also be the safest option for Ody to marry)

3. He courts her himself. Because hey Ithaca would be a nice edition to his kingdom and forces her to marry him. This is the worst case scenario but also least likely to happen. He has seen Odysseus fight. And I don't think he would want to go through the pain of trying to "tame" her.

4. He doesn't tell anyone and blackmails her without a demand she marry his brother but would blackmail her into marrying one of the other suitors to put her back in her place. And most likely that suitor is the one who reveals she's a woman.

Chapters: 3/? Fandom: The Iliad - Homer, The Odyssey - Homer, EPIC - Jorge Rivera-Herrans (Albums), Ancient Greek Religion & Lore Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Hector/Odysseus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Diomedes/Odysseus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Diomedes & Odysseus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Andromache/Hector (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Hector & Paris (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Hector & Odysseus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Menelaus & Odysseus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Diomedes/Odysseus (EPIC: The Musical), Helen of Troy/Menelaus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore) Characters: Odysseus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Hector (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Priam (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Castor (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Pollux (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Diomedes (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Menelaus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Agamemnon (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Nestor (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore) Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Trojan War, Fluff and Angst, Domestic Fluff, Difficult Decisions, Friends to Lovers, Lovers To Enemies, References to Ancient Greek Religion & Lore, Odysseus Needs A Hug (EPIC: The Musical), Odysseus is Not Okay (EPIC: The Musical), hector needs a hug, Slow Burn, english is not author's first language, Attempt at Humor, I'm Bad At Summaries, I'm Bad At Tagging, Other Additional Tags to Be Added, Bittersweet, Female Odysseus (EPIC: The Musical) Summary:

In the shadows of war and duty, quiet bonds are hidden from prying eyes—some tender, some painful, and some worth breaking the rules for. This is the story of a forbidden love between Prince Hector of Troy and Queen Odysseus of Ithaca, how it all started and what the war will force them to do.

What if Penelope was Scylla? How would that go?

In normal epic?

Still Ody loves her the same.

I imagine Ithaca being an island that is way further from the mainland. There Penelope would have a special palace built for her and her family built by Ody. She probably attacks anyone who would be seen as a threat to her or her family.

Also everyone would be shocked, scared and impressed with the fact that Ody married and had a child with a gigantic monster.

There would be a joke where Ody describes Penelope in the sweetest ways and because of it nobody is ever ready to face her true form.

There is a really good fic with a similar promise on ao3 called "Appetite". I really recommend it to you.

Sthenelus deserves a better paycheck hahaha 🤣

I don't like te element about his wife for many reasons (main one being incest) because of it I usually don't include her in my stories or au's.

I'm not sure tbh...I'm aware he in some stores becomes one but I never hear what exactly he becomes.

I like the idea of him being a god of something war/battle related since it would fit him well and add interesting contrast between him and Odysseus and Penelope.

Maybe...🤔

Maybe he would be a god of vengeance, wrath, or conquest.

I'm not sure yet. I might come up with something later. We will see 🙈

Do you think Titan Odysseus looks any different from God Odysseus? Are there personalities any different?

How exactly do Diomedes, Penelope, and Odysseus go about discipline/raising Telemachus ?

Any fun facts about them as deities (Telemachus and Penelope)?

What are the reactions of those from the kingdom of Argos (if he somehow managed to convince them of dating a Titan and a goddess)?

Okay so I have a headcanon about titans that they are much more of an embodiment of the domain they represent. It basically goes

Chaos > ancient gods (Gaya, Nyx, Tartarus) > Titans > Gods embodying elements (Limos) > "Olympian gods" > minor gods > nymphs/spirits > demigods

The further it goes the more human they are. For example Limos as goddess of hunger embodied her element to the point where even Demeter couldn't get close to her, or how Helios is sometimes described as the sun itself which never happened to Apollo.

Odysseus as a titan of peace would cause his surroundings to become calm. He sometimes visits cities that were victims of a panic to calm them down. He also helps by visiting places that are meant to be sanctuaries like temples. If he would stay too long he could risk people acting like lotus eaters and not being willing to work so he makes sure to not stay in one place for more than a month.

Titan Ody looks more like a harpy than a human (he has harpy legs and his body is mostly covered in feathers with exception being his chest, neck, arms and face) he has a pair of wings on his back and on his head.

God Odysseus looks mostly like a man in his twenties with wings on his lower back and head.

Raising Telemachus is different depending if it's god Odysseus or titan one. If he's a god, he, Penelope and Dio would stay in Argos at first and make sure if Telemachus is a god or not (since gods do not always give birth to other gods). Telemachus would be raised among people of Argos until he develops his domain.

If Odysseus is a titan they would raise Telemachus in the fields that are seen as Ody's main domain. Diomedes would make sure to take Telemachus regularly to some cities to make sure that he would know more about people. (Since God Ody is easily startled by people and titan one can't stay with them too long without affecting them)

In both Odysseus would share stories with his baby and show him many places while Penelope would introduce Telemachus to many books, arts and crafts.

Ody is more relaxed about raising Telemachus. He is a little bit overprotective but at the same time he wants his baby to enjoy what the world has to offer. Penelope is a kind but stern parent. She is the one who established things like bedtime or will give him timeout for misbehaving. Diomedes is at first confused as hell because he knows nothing about raising kids but he gets better with time. He also was only recently granted godhood or he is about to so he is still figuring out all the god stuff while trying to raise a baby that can easily lift him.

With the people of Argos it's a funny story.

At first they obviously didn't believe him when he said he's a lover of a titan. But once Sthenelus realised that Dio isn't lying he's PANICKING! Everyone knows that Odysseus has been married for over a century. They are scared that his wife will punish Dio and the entire Argos for this situation. They want to build a temple for Penelope to beg her for forgiveness only to turn out that Penelope doesn't mind sharing her husband (especially since the first thing Ody did was to ask for his wife's permission to have a date with a pretty human.) Dio decides to stay human until he finds someone to replace him on the throne and Sthenelus is always sweating bullets when he feels the presence of the titan and the goddess.

Let me present to you "Sing, O Muse, of Agony"

A retelling of the Illiad and Odyssey with two key differences being that Odysseus is a woman in this story and that she is/was in a relationship with Hector of Troy.

You'll have to see for yourself how things will turn out for them.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/64488046

Do you have any myths about Diomedes after he gets turned into a god?

What was Titan Odysseus's childhood like?

1. not yet

2. A childhood of a titan is a vague timeframe. Odysseus remembers the time where people weren't created yet. He remembers the time without worship and different meanings of pleasure. There was a time when he just like the other ancient generation didn't possess sentimentality over acts of love making.

It used to be something as simple as drinking water from the river when you are thirsty and eating fruits when you are hungry. Odysseus still remembers the names of titans, nymphs and satyrs that used to share with him pleasure. He isn't sure if he sires any children from that time since children made between titans or ancient gods like Nyx or Gaya were growing up so fast they barely needed parents and they quickly understood the meaning of domains that they embodied. After all he barely remembers Gaya or Eros (in Hesiod's Theogony Eros as spiritual embodiment of love was made by Khaos instead of being son of Aphrodite) ever nurturing him or teaching him about his domain. He WAS the peace. He was what calmed those in distress and what allowed others to enjoy a quiet existence of nature.

But then the people arrived. Those creatures made out of clay were fascinated to the titan who despite living for centuries was maybe in his teen years.

They lived for such a short time that they saw importance in the smallest of things. Odysseus loved seeing how people would put a lot of care in creating tasty food, building homes or nurturing their youth.

He then also witnessed the true meaning of marriage and family. People who lived for such a short time would find another half to share life with. They would do everything together and even refused to share the nights with anyone else just to prove their devotion.

While Odysseus never found interest in the idea of being worshipped by the people, ha absolutely fell in love with the marriages. Now he couldn't imagine having an affair with anyone that wasn't this special for him. And so he waited until he found himself someone so special he would like to share his life with.

If you were your own Titan Odysseus lore, how would you go about it?

I mostly had one main idea. Where Odysseus would be a titan of peace (in the sense of calmness)

Odysseus would be a gentle titan who enjoys pretending to be mortal just to listen to stories shared by travelers. (That's how he gained most of his wisdom)

He enjoys some tricks and practical jokes but never something too cruel.

He and Hypnos would be friends and they would often be associated with one another for obvious reasons.

He's seen as a patron of caretakers and one of his symbols is chamomile.

His main story would come from how a god fell in love with him but he kept avoiding the advances with his words. Because of it the god decided to steal Eros' arrow and poured the gold from it into Ody's nectar. Once the titan drank it his tongue turned gold and he was forced to answer all advances with words of love.

To avoid gods/nymphs/people forcing upon him romances Odysseus started wearing rags and wrapping himself in bandages, looking like a sickly beggar so nobody would be interested in him.

He fell in love with Penelope who despite him looking displeasing she would always visit him. They would share stories while she was weaving baskets and he was carving in the wood.

Even then the Spartan princess would show her affection by gifting him instruments or singing love songs allowing the titan to listen to confessions without the need to say anything in exchange.

Helios decided to help the pair by whispering to the princess Ody's secret. His curse and his fears related to it. How no matter how much he loves someone he might not be able to ever be honest with them.

And so Penelope did something unexpected. She asked the titan to remove her tongue. Odysseus was terrified when he found out but then he understood. She did it so her words would never accidentally force Ody to say or do something that he didn't mean.

Once fed ambrosia, Penelope became the goddess of silence. Two beings with domains seen almost as inseparable.

Sometimes a traveler might hear in the middle of the night a soft humming of a woman and a melodic voice of man singing softly, almost whispering sweet words of love he has towards his wife.

If you think about it epic could easily be turned analog horror series.

So, as for god Odysseus do you have any fun facts about it or at least more of how their cults work?

I'm not well versed with analog horrors (I'm a bigger fan of creepy pasta/books/movies) so I can't say much about the first part.

And for god Odysseus:

- He invented wind chimes (as a source of comfort and also a simple alarm), people attach it to the window of the rooms that they want Odysseus to protect the most (like a child's bedroom), it also works as a basic alarm since trying to break in would make a noise (the wind chimes that are made as a sign for Odysseus have a hawk feather attached to it)

- His first temple was built in Ithaca by Ctimene.

- When he met Diomedes for the first time he pretended to be human to not startle the teen but he didn't realise that the young soldier was attracted to him. (Ody is super oblivious to courting until someone says bluntly what they want/feel)

- Eris is obsessed with Odysseus. She is in love with him and at first she tries to arrange the marriage between them by getting blessings from Hermes and Zeus. Hermes instantly refused and Zeus only refused because Hermes demanded it. She always chases after him and he escapes. It would be a symbol of how you don't feel safe in places full of discord and vice versa.

- Also there would be more than one myth mentioning Eris trying to be with Odysseus (In a similar way we have more than one myth about Apollo's bad luck with lovers)

- Ody chirps and makes bird noises when happy/sad/startled

- Because he was working too much (and because Ares got mad that many conflicts were stopped) Hypnos was ordered by Zeus to make Ody narcoleptic. Now Ody takes a few naps during the day.

- he gave the hedgehog its spikes. The small animal was often bullied by other creatures which made Ody sad, especially since the little being was always playing with it. Hedgehog originally had a very soft fur, it also explained how it was too scared to bite someone. And so when a satyr was using a hedgehog as a pillow to take a nap, Ody turned the fur on the back into spikes, harming satyr and scaring him away.

- bow is his special tool that he uses for his domain. The arrows when hit by someone will send a jolt/shiver that is a silent warning from upcoming danger (explaining idea of "sixth sense"/"sensing danger(having a bad feeling about something)")