The Thing About "don't Shame People Who Choose To Try To Lose Weight" Is Like In Its Initial Iterations

the thing about "don't shame people who choose to try to lose weight" is like in its initial iterations among fat liberationists it was largely intended as guidance for talking about people who are 1) fat and 2) some degree of participatory in fat liberationist activism. like i remember this coming up when roxane gay wrote about deciding to get weightloss surgery for example. the point (again among more radical fat lib types) was to recognise that it was something she pursued because of how miserably the world treated her, economically & interpersonally -- "don't shame her" wasn't supposed to detract from conversations about fatphobia but ironically was supposed to be a framework that pushed people to focus more on those structural factors, and to understand individual choices as being the result and not the cause of those factors. in this understanding, inside activist circles, often the people choosing to lose weight are also some of the people bearing the most brutal effects of fatphobia and so the thinking was, don't shy away from analysis of the systems that force them to seek weight loss but at the same time don't treat them with *needless* hostility for responding as individuals to those pressures, assuming they are amenable to actually deconstructing fatphobia. it's a contradictory position to be in of course but such is often the case (an obvious comparison being, like, a feminist who argues that makeup should not be required for women to exist in public, but is also dealing with say a boss who punishes her if she skips it). but the nature of social relations is such that it's very hard to keep terminology in some kind of linguistic quarantine esp when it's regarding a political position designated as fringe & cringe by (for example) an extremely profitable medical industry so now you just see "don't shame people for losing weight! ^-^" on like pastel infographics and comment sections of virulently fatphobic 4% bodyfat fitness influencers &c

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3 months ago

the way you guys treat transmascs is actually fucking disgusting

that's a very unfair accusation, I have many transmasc friends who I treat with only love and kindness :)

1 month ago

the short answer is that babies are just goated at phonology. the working theory is that in order to acquire language as fast as possible, our brains need to be receptive to any and all phonetic information from birth (and possibly even earlier; there's some evidence that prenatal infants pick up on rhythm and pitch information from the sound waves that travel from the parent to the womb). linguists have been testing them on this for a long time, and until they're about 6 month babies can distinguish phonemes from languages they've never been exposed to and who's phonology is completely different to their own. eventually the brain starts to lose that ability in order to focus on correctly articulating those sounds, which is an incredibly complex task, not to mention once you have to start arranging them into patterns to form words and sentences. basically to do takes up lot of cognitive effort that then can't be used to maintain such a massive inventory of sounds.

as for adults, I don't think it's quite accurate to say that it's impossible to learn phonology, since in order to fluently speak a second language you have to be able to understand and produce all the sounds, even if they're not 100% perfect. but in terms of why it's so much more difficult to perfect than something like syntax, it's partly of your brain not being as flexible anymore and, consequently both having a worse memory and a deeply engrained phonemic inventory, to the point that it's difficult for non-native speakers to even "hear" the difference between contrasting sounds your not familiar with (to be clear it's not that you physically can't hear it, it just doesn't register phonologically). this is also why people have consistent accents instead of making pronunciation errors at random; they're still following a set of structural rules, most likely very similar to the ones of native speakers, but with the influence of their first language changing it slightly.

so like. as i understand it, at any age, if your exposure to language is restricted to a single language, you will learn that language. like it just sort of happens, your brain figures out its grammar, semantics, etc, formal training HELPS but is not required. but this is *not* the case with the language's phonology! people will live in a foreign-phone country for years, primarily exposed to its language, they will understand it perfectly, generate it perfectly, and yet will still have a strong "accent" if not trained how to avoid it. that's weird, right? why doesnt the brain learn the phonology? (and why does it learn it perfectly as a baby?) is it too "low level", muscular-level, and that stuff gets "hardened" while higher level stuff is more flexible..?


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1 year ago

gender to me is like a car i dont really want one and society would be much better if it was not structured around it. but i got one because it helps me get around and sometimes its fun to make it go fast

1 month ago

i really try to distinguish between being annoyed by semantic shifts in a pointless prescriptive way and being annoyed by semantic shifts because they make language less useful but whatever is happening to the word gentrification it's the latter


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8 months ago

been enjoying some media/content by makers lately

1 month ago

I do lowkey think everyone's a little autistic/adhd/ocd/etc. but in like a cool anti-psych non pathologizing way


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2 years ago

Just finished reading my third book on marxist political theory, just a few more and I think I might be ready for this "Disco Elysium" you guys have been telling me about,

5 months ago
— Gilles Delueze, Nietzsche And Philosophy

— Gilles Delueze, Nietzsche and Philosophy

People (sometimes rightfully) criticize negativity and hatred as foreclosing thought and the enjoyment of life but nowadays it’s much more often the case that enforced positivity and agreement foreclose thought and life. It’s so obnoxious how the second you start going into your actual thoughts about something and your belief that things can and should be different, people just start trying to stop you because it doesn’t involve immediate agreement with the way everyone lives their lives. Who fucking cares, I’m not jumping in front of them and restraining them, and I’m not gonna just yammer about myself all day. I’m already part of the world, how am I supposed to skirt around the edges of it without ever saying anything about any of it? These positivity freaks want to reduce all language to description and affirmation, they want everyone to sound like a fucking advertisement

4 months ago

imagining a lesbian who insists that the etymology of yearning comes from yuri

5 months ago

usamericans and europeans love to moralize objective economic categories by transposing the relations of oppression to a good-and-bad dynamic which affects everyone as individuals, so that a statement of fact without any bearing on their individual personhood becomes an accusation to them, one that must simply not be true because their self-imposed moralization goes against the real oppression they do face, an oppression which has of course also been unnecessarily moralized, resulting in a completely self-fabricated contradiction between being oppressed (good and righteous) and benefitting from the oppression of others (bad and despisable)

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