I Feel Like People Are Ascribing Way Too Logic Into Marinette’s Decision Making Right Now. Marinette

i feel like people are ascribing way too logic into marinette’s decision making right now. marinette is not thinking logically. and that does not mean “marinette has flawed reasoning” or “marinette is making choices on bad logic” - i mean she is literally not applying logical thought. she is avoiding these conversations out of fear. she’s not paternalistically “making decisions for chat noir’s own good” or deciding what is best for him without his input. she’s avoiding a hard conversation.

this has been a consistent character flaw of marinette. she does fine with some confrontations, but emotionally heavy convos with people important to her? that is something that she has always gotten anxious about and avoided. telling adrien how she feels, telling chloe she can’t be queen bee anymore — even when she wants to do it or knows she has to, she procrastinates or avoids or self-sabotages. marinette not talking to chat noir - about rena and identities, about chat blanc - is the same thing. she’s avoidant.

now, with chat noir, she does have extra reasons to avoid it. with chloe, she knew she had to. with adrien, she wants to. but with chat? having that additional “it’s a safety risk” and “what if it makes things worse” is an excuse she tells herself and maybe others, but it’s not the real reason she hasn’t talked to him. marinette is bad at perspective taking. she’s not thinking “i need to keep this from him because he can’t handle it,” she’s thinking “i never want to talk about this ever because i can’t handle it.” yes, it’s unfair to chat noir and it’ll bite them both in the ass. but marinette’s flaws are not master fu’s flaws or gabriel agreste’s flaws, even when from the outside she is doing something similar.

she’s scared of that conversation. full stop. safety risks and worry about his reaction are all rationalizations she’s using to justify her avoidance.

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