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ALEXSANDR KALLUS 3.21 “Zero Hour: Part One”

I love when the whumpee has to reinvent themself. No, you will never be the past you again, they are permanently changed by the trauma, but that does not mean death. You just have to find you again. The people who care about you might mourn, you might as well, but getting to know each other again can be quite interesting.

I finally read the comic with Swain and I am literally in shambles

DESTIEL IN EVERY EPISODE → 5x03 free to be you and me

dean being so disappointed when castiel doesn't realize he's flirting with him.

I had a thought about Lasan. People tend to agree that Zeb is kind of looked down on or seen as less intelligent by the people around him, despite him obviously being very smart, and I was wondering why that was. I do think there's some underlying xenophobia in the rebellion, even if it's not as rampant, that when someone looks at Zeb they might see him as something 'other' or somehow more animal like and therefore unintelligent. But then why does Zeb so frequently look down on himself as well? Is it just a lack of confidence? Well, I was thinking and I came up with this idea: what if the foundation of knowledge itself is different on Lasan compared to the rest of the galaxy?

So, hear me out, I'm a historian, I love history and there was a history class I was in some time ago that was all about the Aztec, Inca, and Maya, major empires each during their heyday, and in one of the units, we learned about the Mayan calendar and their number system (you don't have to be a mathematician for this, I promise) (I can't do math) (also this whole post is an excuse for me to talk about this cuz I think it's neat).

The Mayans (and by extension most people in Central America) used a completely different number system to do math. They used what's called a vigesimal system, not a decimal system. A decimal system is a Base 10 system: 1's, 10's, 100's.  This is the way we learn math today.

(sorry for the shitty quality. and the. stains. i was snacking on salt an vinegar chips and they spilled. ignore that.)

However a vigesimal system is not Base 10, but Base 20, and this changes the most basic arithmetic. Actually, it flat out changes the way numbers are read.

It seems like Lasan was a fairly isolated planet, there weren't a lot of Lasat seen in the galaxy at large, and Lasan was neutral during the Clone Wars, so it could be that there wasn't a big push to learn how things are done in the rest of the galaxy unless you were specifically planning on leaving Lasan. And since Zeb was in the Honor Guard, I don't imagine he ever even wanted to leave, but rather was forced to. Which means he probably never would've learned the systems that the rest of the galaxy used.

Now, I will say that the decimal system only exists because humans have ten fingers, which is why it called Base 10. And the vigesimal system exists because humans have ten fingers and ten toes, which is why it's called Base 20. Lasat have neither, which means they probably didn't use a vigesimal system; but it also means they probably didn't use a decimal system either. Not unless they imported it. Like I said, I'm not a mathematician, so I'm not even going to try to figure out what a Base 8 or a Base 16 number system looks like, I'm not that good at math.

But imagine, if you will, being forced to step out into a world where you can't even read numbers (I'm going to keep using vigesimal as an example). How would people look at you? Say you're in a foreign market and you're trying to scrape together enough credits to buy food. You look at the characters the rest of the galaxy uses and you have to translate them, so you're stood there staring at this price tag, the guy behind the counter is getting impatient. So you manage to translate the characters into the ones you know and pull out your credits. It's a 2 and an 8. 2x20 is 40 and an 8, is, well, 8. So you try to pay 48 credits for the food. Your new traveling companion clears his throat and tells you that's almost double the price and you really can't afford to lose credits on a translation error. Then you remember, they use tens. So 2x10 is 20. Not 40. Now the shopkeeper's looking at you funny, and your companion is paying the proper price for the food. And you have to just stand there, embarrassed, that you can't even do basic math.

So you get back to your new ship and there's this thing there, it's metal, and it thinks with a system called binary. Which is somehow a language based on a number system that you don't understand. And it's yelling at you. Loudly. And a lot. Would anybody blame you if you tried to punt the little trash can into the sun? If that was your experience day-in, day-out would you offer yourself up when somebody asks for ideas? I wouldn't. And to go through some version of that repeatedly without really being able to explain because first of all, who wants to learn new math just for you, and second of all, this is your second language anyway so how are you supposed to explain new math sufficiently when you have to translate everything in your head first. That would be crushing, and isolating. And some days, maybe it's just easier to be the dumb brute.

As someone who grew up bad at math, all STEM actually, and blonde (which doesn't seem like it'd be a big deal, but people really do treat like you're stupider than everyone else. Far and away NOT the worst hair-based discrimination, but the stereotype does get under your skin eventually) I was genuinely convinced I was stupid. I know now that my brain is wired for arts and humanities and I am NOT stupid. But my inability to do simple math without a calculator is humiliating to this day and I can really empathize with Zeb about feeling like you're lacking something that comes naturally to everyone else. The self-doubt and the self-loathing that come with looking around you and realizing that if you ask for help, you open yourself up to mockery because what's hard for you is basic for everyone else. It sucks. I don't blame Zeb for being so down on himself.

Zeb could've had the best education on Lasan but it truly doesn't matter how quality your education is if everyone around you reads 28 differently than you do. It's not a lack of intelligence, it's a translation error coupled with a lack of grace from the people around you. I'd beat myself up, too.

I'm not saying that I think this is what the writers had intended or anything, in fact, I don't think they thought about Lasan and it's culture all that much, if I'm being honest, but that's a thought for later. I just, I had this idea and wanted to share.

Can you believe this post exists because my dad bought me a mug lol. I collect mugs and my dad found one that has Mayan hieroglyphs carved onto it and he knows that I can understand a handful of glyphs and thought I'd like it. I don't have it yet but it's en route. Anyway, it got me thinking about ancient Maya and I've got kalluzeb brainrot and they collided and made this.

sure why not

Ou i was just talking to someone about this so the thoughts r fresh

(Also ignore any typos, if u see something spelled wrong NO YOU DIDNT)

I think that, for me personally (not dogging on any HCs that arent this, headcannon whatever floats your boat!!), their relationship would be healthiest if it kind of happened on accident

And im not talking the "heat of the moment, we just stumbled into bed together and woah now we're in love" type of thing, I'm talking the kind of slowburn in which they very slowly over the course of Yavin to Hoth, end up falling into this cycle of domesticity without even realizing it

I think that they would be, understandably, weird and akward around each other on Yavin. They are both well aware of their history, and they dont know how to approach it now that they're working on the same side.

But if Kallus just KEEPS getting assigned to the Ghost Crew for missions, Zeb would be forced to see all the ways in which Kallus is changing as he slowly breaks down his Imp persona. From that point I think that it would be a lot easier for them to become friends.

But even after they become friends, i dont think there would be feeling there yet, because heres the thing: it would take TIME for Zeb to truly process in order to forgive and befriend Kallus, and it would take even more time for Kallus to transform into a person that Zeb could fall in LOVE with. And on the Kallus side of things, he is working through deconstructing every aspect of who he has been for the past 18 years whilst doing his darndest to contribute to the Rebellion. I personally think that he's be both far too busy and far too emotionally immature to even foster those feelings for Zeb in the first place.

Either way, post Lothal Liberation, I think they'd become closer as Kallus helps out around the Ghost in the ways he can while Sabine, Hera, and Zeb struggle through their grief. I think that this era would be a time when Zeb would have to be a real rock and place of comfort for Sabine and Hera, and even though he knows that they are equally there for him, Sabine is still young and shouldnt have to deal with more grief than she already is, and Hera? She just lost her psudo-husband and is now finding how that shes PREGNANT WITH KANANS CHILD???? WHIKST LEADING A REBELLION??? Thats emotionally DEVASTATING, Zebs not going to cry on her shoulder, she has enough going on. And I mean, theres Rex, but he's kind of removed from it all-- he's seen so many of his brothers die in combat that Kanan and Ezra (although he's not dead, just lost) were not the first and he knows that they will not be the last.

So that leaves Kallus, who, at this point in their friendship, I think would be very willing to be a shoulder for Zeb to cry on. And I think that this emotional vulnerability would kind of cement their friendship as something very real and very close.

After the destruction of the Death Star, the Rebellion moves to Mako-Ta docking station, and as far as housing recruits goes, theyre somewhat limited to the large transports that they have in their possesion, which-- compared to the empire-- is not a lot. Also, atp, the Rebellion is getting a MASSIIVEEEEE surge of new recruits, the Destruction of the Death Star let the people of the galaxy know that the Rebellion had a chance, and that probably inspired a lot of people to join.

All this to say, freeing up space on those cruisers by bunking people together in groups of 3-4 OR on ships with crews, would be of utmost priority.

So... if Kallus is already working closely with the Ghost Crew... he LITERALLY helped LIBERATE LOTHAL.... He and Sabine get along, but WAY MORE IMPORTANTLY, he and ZEB arent just friends, theyre BEST friends............. why would Hera not offer him a spot on the Ghost if those cruisers NEED THE SPACE.....????

So begins-- in my brain-- the start of the "Kallus is apart of the Ghost Crew" agenda, and its during this era that Kallus and Zeb begin the slow slide into domesticity.

Because heres the thing, they are both VERY smart, and if they really thought about it at this point in time, they would probably both agree that a relationship between them would have A LOT of potential for getting messy quick and taking a nose dive south.

But if they dont really think about it.... and if they end up idk... spending their evenings together plahing holochess, or making a cup of caf for one another in the morning, or if they end up kind of just falling asleep on one another during family movie night-- not because they WANT a relationship, but just because they care so deeply about one another, even if they dont have a label for what that caring means, or what it even is, or WHY it even is, yk?

And I think that, eventually, they'd reach a point (probably during the Hoth era or shortly after) where Hera would tell them that they need to really think about what was happening in between them. Hera made the mistake of not saying anything because she thought that she and Kanan would have more time. She thought that being in a war was a reason NOT to acknowledge things for what they were. She wouldn't want these two to make that same mistake.

And from there I think that they'd talk about it. And it would be kinda awkard, and theyre sort of worried about the whole thing, but if they're already in a dynamic where theyre basically already ACCIDENTALLY together???? Its kind of like... "well, fuck it, we're already in it, lets see what happens ig. If we ended up in a relationship accidentally, idk maybe we could do it on purpose"

Anyways thats just a whole lot of yapping all to say that I think that they end up accidentally being the Kanera of Hoth and that their relationship is far more realistic, and healthy, if its more of a slowburn yk?

Actually, I'm so feral over the fact that Zeb and Kallus are very much implied to be slow burn. Through S4 we don't get a lot of implication of them being particularly close 'till the epilogue and in the one comic with Kallus that takes place post defection Zeb isn't mentioned. They don't leave for Lira San 'til the war ended - approximately five years after the liberation of Lothal. This, to me at least, implies that while Zeb and Kallus built a sense of common ground and respect, it wasn't an instant attraction that immediately developed into more. It most likely took years for them to develop the groundwork for a friendship and it's possible that they hadn't even gotten together yet by the time they made it to Lira San. Honestly I think it's kind of cute to think that they worked hard to establish a friendship and even so it didn't happen 'til Zeb initiated it quite a while after Kallus defected, only doing so after seeing how much Kallus had changed and made an effort to do better and help people.

I honestly think feelings might've developed between them earlier than either of them were ready for. Kallus definitely wouldn't want to push those feelings onto Zeb unprompted and only admit to them if Zeb was to bring it up, but I think initially Kallus would definitely feel uncomfortable with the idea and I definitely think Zeb would agree with him on those feelings and they'd agree to just remain friends for the time being.

I could definitely imagine Lira San being the turning point in their relationship. While Kallus has obviously grown to be a better person there was definitely still a subconscious part of Zeb that didn't entirely trust him to be truly accepting of all Lasats - what if Zeb was just an exception? Seeing Kallus show respect, repentance and love towards the people and culture of Lira San might be the piece of closure Zeb didn't realize he needed. Likewise, Kallus needed to face the people and culture he almost destroyed. He needed to truly understand the extent of the damage he had caused, but not just to feel guilt, but to learn to have a greater appreciation and love for the people he once hated.

I think the implication of the epilogue is that Zeb didn't really tell Kallus about Lira San 'til the war was over. Which implicates that it took them a long while to built up that level of trust - understandably so

And idk, it kinda makes me love them more? Like their love didn't just happen outside of their control. It was a conscious choice and required huge efforts from both of them

Luke teaching Ben at his peaceful Jedi academy, "use the force to center yourself" vs. Ezra teaching Jacen in their mom's garage, "ok kid, I'm gonna fire at you and you're gonna dodge and if anything happens we're blaming Chopper".

Also while we're here can we talk about the grip that Alexsandr Kallus has on the lesbian community. have we accepted him into our ranks? Not related but what if Kalluzeb were girls and they still beat each other up and then fell in love (A sniper's red dot appears on my forehead) Hey woahhhh I'm just saying. Hypothetically