"He's still smiling when he settles the second on my head, but his eyes, just inches from mine, are as unforgiving as a snake's.
That's when I know that even though both of us would have eaten the berries, I am to blame for having the idea. I'm the instigator. I'm the one to be punished." (THG pg 348)
Snow ignored Lucy Gray's flaws. He looked past them thinking that she belonged to him and therefore it was forgivable. He could look past it by saying she just didn't understand. He rationalized it for her in order to not have to feel he was compromising his own fucked up morals.
But it's the very thing he rats Sejanus out for. He's a part of the rebellion and Snow can't look past it. Both Sejanus and Lucy Gray dislike the Capitol but Snow ignores it for Lucy Gray.
He also pretty much ignores Peeta, the boy who reminds us so much of Lucy Gray. He's a performer, a lover at heart, and more importantly he's just along for the ride.
Katniss is who Snow blames. She's another Sejanus. She's set on tearing down the Captiol and watching it burn. I was just so shocked to find this beautifully reflected back in the original Hunger Games book one.
Suzanne Collins has such a deep understanding of her own material. It's rare to see books hold up so long and even more so to get a good add on to a series years later.
But still you can find a ton of small moments in the original trilogy that hammers home what tbosbas says.
I love how Snow's inevitable demise is constantly foreshadowed throughout the movie with Dr Gaul's "rainbow of destruction".
First we see it in Lucy's dress:
Then the snakes:
And finally, the very last scene:
It doesn't matter that "Snow lands on top" at the end of this movie because everyone knows how his story ends. Even though it will take a very long time...
That's what I call poetic cinema👏
I think the most radical thing the hunger games does is tell young people that the most revolutionary thing you can do is have unconditional love for humanity. Katniss throughout the entire series is guided by a deep sense of compassion for the people around her. It is what causes her to volunteer, to bury rue, to mercy kill cato, its why she tries to save peeta, why finnick telling her to remember who the real enemy is works, and even though her compassion for the larger world falters when peeta is kidnapped, it comes back when she visits hospitals and asks for mercy for other victors and ultimately, it is love and belief in a better humanity that makes her kill coin. Through it all, she maintains an unfaltering belief in the fundemental goodness of humanity, which is diametrically opposed to dr gaul's and snow's worldview. Peeta is even more unwaveringly compassionate
So the series tells young people that the most revolutionary thing you can be is compassionate. Let compassion drive your politics. Let yourself believe in the fundemental goodness of people. And i think that's deeply important in a world that touts the superiority of pure reason or logic, to allow yourself to be guided by something as emotional as compassion. Katniss everdeen tells us that your politics should be rooted in compassion in a world that thinks detatchment or cynicism is intelligence and i think thats v cool
“Appalachia is 90% white”
“Katniss is only described as olive skinned, that like so many Europeans”
“Prim’s blonde, that’s weird for a biracial person.”
Bitch shut the fuck you and just say your racist ass doesn’t accept that the Seam are stand in for minority races. Having two pasty ass group of people with different hair colours isn’t going make anyone notice or analyze the class divide between the Seam and Merchants. I fucking hate the movies for white washing Haymitch and Katniss because their Seam backgrounds are exactly why they understand each other. They have their own small culture and identity from the merchants.
It also visually shows how Peeta and her mother are outsiders. It’s important. It matters!!!!
And I get why Katniss and Haymitch were white back when the movies first came out, but times have fucking changed and I want the representation that existed in the books from the beginning.
Second of all, you can be biracial and have blonde hair as long as both parents have the fucking gene. 12 is small as shit, people get around and cross townlines from time to time. Shut the fuck up.
I fucking hate it here.
peeta after saying “if it werent for the baby”
snow allowing katniss to live following her defiance of the capitol is so much more interesting knowing his past with lucy gray. i'm curious if he assumed, because of his experiences, that katniss would run away, just like lucy gray had? and she would have, had it not been for gale's insistence that he stay and help the rebellion grow. idk just very interesting to me
having read tbosas right before going to see the movie i feel like i’m upset at key parts being left out which made the movie feel so rushed, i think this would have been a great opportunity to split the book into two parts…
the treatment of the tributes, the days that passed that showed how close lucy gray and coriolanus got and ma plinth’s character were some of the most important parts that were left out and could have added so much more depth to the film. and sure i get why they changed so much of what happened in the arena because it was described so graphically in the book and because it was a lot more boring since there were long periods of nothing but i really feel like they could have made the construction of the area better because the scene where coriolanus had to save sejanus was so downplayed. and there’s also all the little details from the end like the fact that the tenth hunger games was erased from the vault is HUGE in my opinion because it shows that they were willing to do everything to make sure something “uncontrollable” couldn’t happen again, and how snow was practically living off the plinths like it makes sense that it was left out of the movie because that relationship was practically nonexistent but i think it could have been huge to keep it in to show how snow lands on top…
but what i can’t lie about is that the actors did an absolutely incredible job with these character! viola, tom and rachel are so so talented! i would definitely go see the movie first then read the book because so many details about the way snow’s mind works helps bring the movie to a completely new level!!
rebog
water era of my art
what makes Snow such a formidable villain within THG universe is that nothing he does was set in stone. there was no sense of inevitability about his actions and his brutality. Snow had enough perspective of poverty, capital cruelty, district hunger and not to mention his own arena experience’ and yet he actively chose at every moment to stray from natural goodness. its even more terrifying in the sense that he had the ability to care. Snow is not a mindless sociopath, he displays feelings to others such as sejanus, lucy grey and tigris but ultimately he will always choose himself. his ability to betray those he cared about in order yo advance himself makes him so much more than the stereotypical villain who is forced into his actions.
! TBOSAS SPOILERS
Honestly, after watching TBOSAS, I had so many questions. I was asking myself why Lucy Gray left Coryo, and even though after some reasearch I came to the conclusion that's it because even she became afraid of what he could do to her (kill her), I'm still not exactly sure. While watching that scene at the shack, I really felt like it deeply pained Lucy Gray to leave. I was so sure they loved each other and wondered; why, if she loves him, did she go? What is because since he turned his bestfriend in she was scared he would eventually do the same with her? I thought that if they were in love Lucy Gray would try to talk with him or something but then the scene in the woods really shook me. When he realised she tricked him with the snake (and still with that I'm not a hundred% sure) he turned mad. I feel like it was in this scene he realised he lost everything. Lucy Gray left him and I think it's then that he felt so much anger because HE helped her survived. If he hadn't given her scent to the snakes or hadn't given her poison she would've died, so maybe he felt betrayed that she would leave him so easily when he sacrificed so much for her.
I also wondered why he killed Dean and I think it's because he wanted to finish all that came his way and what/who contradicted what he had once believed? I mean their last dialogue is about the fact that it was because of him and Coryo's father that the Hunger Games began, and I thought Coryo, out of anger that Dean brought his father in the conversation, would kill him then, but the poison already was in the morphin. So I think after he lost Lucy Gray in the woods and came back to the Capitol, with the poisoned morphin, all he wanted was to prove to himself that all his efforts would come to an end, because honestly, at the end of the day, he did all of this for himself.
He exposed his best friend, which got him killed, only because it put him in danger. He was probably ready to kill Lucy Gray if ever she became a danger to his life. What I find confusing is the radical change, because in the first half of the movie all he wanted was for Lucy Gray to survive and sacrificied so much for her, so why and how did he change sides so fast? Killing the boy in the arena and feeling powerful is probably a factor of the questions appearing in his mind after that.
Overall I feel like he could have stayed in the light, and stayed good. My biggest question is If Lucy Gray stayed at the shack, would everything be different? Would they have runned together far away and establish a quiet life? Which is really to say that it's all Lucy Gray, and her leaving Coryo is what finally made him fall and turn evil.
(PS(?): The movie was amazing! Perfect cast, perfect everything! Loved it from start to finish.)