Okay, small detail regarding THG series epilogue, regarding Katniss and Peeta's family:
So if we were to take the timeline of Katniss and Peeta's parents, Katniss's Mom was 16/17 during the 50th Hunger Games and Katniss was born (74-16 = 58) during the year of the 58th Hunger Games, making her mom's age about 24/25. On the other hand, Peeta's parents had 2 kids before him (one is maybe 19 and the other 17/18) so they would've been approximately 22/23. If we were to take a book detail, Madge Undersee, her Mom whose aunt died at the 50th Hunger Games was maybe the same age as Katniss's Mom and had Madge at 24/25.
But for Katniss and Peeta, it took 15 years to have kids, making them 32/33.
So I can't help but wonder- why on earth is everybody complaining about Katniss and Peeta having a very "conventional happy ending" when unlike their parents who had children much younger than they were, they can have children without the fear of them ever participating in The Hunger Games and yet have taken so long to consider having children.
Trauma is real, people. And that is seen in the fact that Madge's Mom has trauma of headaches from possibly losing her twin and something else, but Katniss having faced more trauma (2 Hunger Games and a War where she too lost her sister), took her time to have children in a world that was supposedly safe. Another thing is Katniss feeling her daughter move within her which was absolutely terrifying, but having her gave her joy, because in some way, she reclaimed the caretaker that she became when Prim was born.
So technically, the epilogue shows how grief can coexist with love and how Katniss may never fully recover from the pain she has endured from losing her loved ones and the fear of having the world where her children safe and happy downslide into war again (much like our current times) will always taint her happy moments, but to live life well because others have made that happen at a personal cost is important.
What are people's thoughts on the epilogue?
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I love how Snow's inevitable demise is constantly foreshadowed throughout the movie with Dr Gaul's "rainbow of destruction".
First we see it in Lucy's dress:
Then the snakes:
And finally, the very last scene:
It doesn't matter that "Snow lands on top" at the end of this movie because everyone knows how his story ends. Even though it will take a very long time...
That's what I call poetic cinemaš
OK well ill just keep putting jesse pinkman into my chemical romance until something else comes up
Can yāall give me some fic recs that are primarily Wolfstar with no Jegulus? No offense to Jegulus fans, Iām just not that invested in the ship. (Iāve already read ATYDās and am destroyed)
so tbosas
! TBOSAS SPOILERS
Honestly, after watching TBOSAS, I had so many questions. I was asking myself why Lucy Gray left Coryo, and even though after some reasearch I came to the conclusion that's it because even she became afraid of what he could do to her (kill her), I'm still not exactly sure. While watching that scene at the shack, I really felt like it deeply pained Lucy Gray to leave. I was so sure they loved each other and wondered; why, if she loves him, did she go? What is because since he turned his bestfriend in she was scared he would eventually do the same with her? I thought that if they were in love Lucy Gray would try to talk with him or something but then the scene in the woods really shook me. When he realised she tricked him with the snake (and still with that I'm not a hundred% sure) he turned mad. I feel like it was in this scene he realised he lost everything. Lucy Gray left him and I think it's then that he felt so much anger because HE helped her survived. If he hadn't given her scent to the snakes or hadn't given her poison she would've died, so maybe he felt betrayed that she would leave him so easily when he sacrificed so much for her.
I also wondered why he killed Dean and I think it's because he wanted to finish all that came his way and what/who contradicted what he had once believed? I mean their last dialogue is about the fact that it was because of him and Coryo's father that the Hunger Games began, and I thought Coryo, out of anger that Dean brought his father in the conversation, would kill him then, but the poison already was in the morphin. So I think after he lost Lucy Gray in the woods and came back to the Capitol, with the poisoned morphin, all he wanted was to prove to himself that all his efforts would come to an end, because honestly, at the end of the day, he did all of this for himself.
He exposed his best friend, which got him killed, only because it put him in danger. He was probably ready to kill Lucy Gray if ever she became a danger to his life. What I find confusing is the radical change, because in the first half of the movie all he wanted was for Lucy Gray to survive and sacrificied so much for her, so why and how did he change sides so fast? Killing the boy in the arena and feeling powerful is probably a factor of the questions appearing in his mind after that.
Overall I feel like he could have stayed in the light, and stayed good. My biggest question is If Lucy Gray stayed at the shack, would everything be different? Would they have runned together far away and establish a quiet life? Which is really to say that it's all Lucy Gray, and her leaving Coryo is what finally made him fall and turn evil.
(PS(?): The movie was amazing! Perfect cast, perfect everything! Loved it from start to finish.)
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another idea that i take immense issue with in the hunger games community is that āpeeta played the games better than katniss didā - essentially saying that he knew how to play the capitol and the audience but katniss didnāt.
there is a number of evidence to counter this. the first point the people who believe this like to make is that āpeeta came up with the love conceptā, and while this is true itās only true to an extent. peeta did come up with the idea of telling the audience that he loved katniss, to gain their sympathy and favour for sponsorships, but not the ploy that happens in the games where katniss falls greatly in love with him too - in the audienceās eyes. we know this because and the end of the first book, peeta and katniss have a conversation where peeta seems to realise, to quote president snow in catching fire āthe extent of her indifferenceā to him (though of course sheās not indifferent, just not fully in love with him at this point).
thereās also the moment post the 74th hunger games, when katniss and haymitch are secretly discussing how to justify the berry incident and haymitch tells her that āher only defence can be she was so madly in love she wasnāt responsible for her actions.ā katniss responds asking if he had told peeta of the situation, to which haymitch says, ādonāt have to. heās already thereā (thg, pgs. 417-418). what this explains to us is that peeta doesnāt actually need instruction on āthe love ployā as he is actually in love with her. this is also backed up by the fact katniss was instructed with the sponsor items in the game wheres peeta isnt.
in terms of how katniss played the capitol and the audience, thereās great evidence to her proficiency in it, too. foremost is of course the berry incident, which she came up with knowing its meaning and its danger. it is an act done in anger at the captiol, at their murder of innocent children, at their manipulation to get the two people in the arena closest to eachother emotionally to be the last to standing, to have the greatest possible ending regardless of how it felt for the tributes. katniss realises āyes, they have to have a victorā (thg, pg. 402) so she makes them have two or none.
not to mention, throughout the entire 74th hunger games, katniss is constantly thinking of how the audience will view her actions. when peeta passes with the career pack, she āneeds to look one step ahead of the gameā despite the fact she is confused and angry, so she āgives [the cameras] a knowing smileā and thinks āthere, let them figure out what that meansā. (thg, pg. 191)
thereās also the moment where she calls out peetaās name when she finds out they could both win together, the entirety of their time in the cave, the kissing and almost their whole relationship was a great con to get them both home, and was lead by peetaās love, yes, but also katnissā ability to play the capitolās hearts.
thereās so much more i can discuss about the first and the other books bc iāve mainly talked about book 1 but this is getting super long LOL. my point is not that peeta couldnāt play the games, or that katniss was better than him at it because i dont believe either of those things. itās that i want people to stop acting like peeta was the greater voice of the revolution, was better at playing an audience and speaking. he certainly was excellent at it, especially in catching fire when he is aware of his need to act for the capitol (after the district 11 shooting and through to the end of the quarter quell), but katniss was too. thatās all!! sorry for the essay.