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can you please explain quadrents (specifically moirailegince? i see alot of people dont seem to get it and id love to have a post to link back to when i explain it instead of having to go through homestuck)

Ah, tackling the big one first.

Homestuck itself has its own explanation of quadrants, which starts on Page 2392. However, I'll take a stab at simplifying the explanation here, although I may take direct quotes from the comic.

Humans have only one form of romance. And though we consider it a complicated subject, [...] it is ultimately a superficial slice of what trolls consider the full body of romantic experience. Our concept of romance [...] is still just [...] a single, linear concept.

(I guess I will be taking direct quotes from the comics.)

This concept of human love is generally represented with the symbol <3, or ❤️. However, trolls, in keeping with the Midnight Crew's full set of playing card theming, have four different types of romance, to fit the four suits.

<3/♥️, Hearts; <3</♠️, Spades; c3</♣️, Clubs; and <>/♦️, Diamonds.

This creates 4 Quadrants of romance, a term that is often used to refer to love and romantic entanglement.

Here, Nepeta's helpful diagram shows how these quadrants are related.

Hearts, the Flushed Quadrant, and Diamonds, the Pale Quadrant, are grouped as "Red Romance". These are the quadrants more associated with what we would possibly call positive feelings.

Meanwhile, Spades the Caliginous Quadrant (often called "Pitch"), and Clubs, the Ashen quadrant, are grouped as "Black Romance", more associated with negative feelings (to a degree, the divide isn't as simple as that.)

Furthermore, Hearts and Spades are Concupiscent Quadrants, and Diamonds and Clubs are Conciliatory Quadrants. These terms relate to the purpose of these quadrants within troll society: Concupiscent (which has meanings of sexual desire) Quadrants are related directly to the reproductive cycle of the troll species. Meanwhile, Conciliatory (meaning to placate of pacify) Quadrants, quote:

"would be more closely likened to platonic relationships by human standards"

Note: this does not make them necessarily platonic relationships in troll society. Pale and Ashen relationships remain romantic, and there may possibly also be sexual elements (not that these are shown or implied in the comic, nor will they be theorised upon here).

The comic makes it clear that while many parallels can be drawn between troll romance and certain human relationships (for example, "frenemies" or "QPRs"), these relationships are different from troll ones, as trolls are driven by primal forces to engage in their 4 types of romance, in the same way we do with our one (This is, of course, a gross oversimplification of the vast spectrum of the human experience of attraction and possible lack thereof, but it's a fair rough analogy.)

Let us now move on to the first and easiest to understand quadrant:

♥️: The Flushed Quadrant

The Flushed Quadrant is (almost) exactly the same as human romantic and/or sexual attraction. For our purposes, ♥️=❤️.

While the trolls have no concept of marriage, and don't generally use the terms boyfriend/girlfriend, the term for a partner in the Flushed Quadrant is a Matesprit, meaning the two trolls have formed a Matespritship.

The given example within Homestuck canon at the time of a Matespritship was Dad Egbert and Mom Lalonde. Several other well known examples are Rose Lalonde and Kanaya Maryam, Latula Pyrope and Mituna Captor, and Jade Harley and Davesprite (during the Yellow Yard trip, before John's 15th birthday). Many others exist, as well as flushed crushes (Kanaya Maryam for Vriska Serket, Nepeta Leijon for Karkat Vantas, etc.)

Note: Humans can take part in Quadrant relationships outside of the Flushed Quadrant, though some trolls thought this impossible.

Next, we explain

♠️: The Pitch (Caliginous) Quadrant

The simplest explanation of Pitch is always "romance, but with hate instead of love". People often find that hard to understand, but it's a trope that appears throughout media. One of the best examples I've found is LEGO Batman and LEGO Joker in the LEGO Batman Movie.

However, it's much more than simply "hate love". A Kisemesistude is more akin to a fierce arch-rivalry, with a troll competing against their Kismesis to outfox, outsmart, or simply defeat them.

The given example for a Kismesistude is Jack Noir and the Black Queen. Another example is Vriska Serket and Eridan Ampora's black romance, which fell apart before they started the game, Marquise Spinerette Mindfang and Orphaner Dualscar's Kismesistude, which they were mimicking, or Terezi Pyrope and Gamzee Makara's relationship in the pre-retcon timeline.

Note: no successful Kismesistudes exist within the main body of Homestuck: Vriska broke things off with Eridan and likewise Mindfang with Dualscar, and Gamzee was physically and mentally abusing Terezi. All canon kismesistudes have either not budded, or ended with one of the two Kismesis dumping the other, or attempting to kill them. (John and Terezi doesn't count in this case, as its continuation only exists in the Epilogues, a dubiously canon source.) This does not, however, mean all Kismesistudes are doomed to fail.

There are also numerous Pitch crushes, such as Eridan Ampora on Rose Lalonde, Gamzee Makara on Dave Strider (or possibly the Insane Clown Posse, it's unclear) and the aforementioned John Egbert for Terezi Pyrope and vice versa.

Now, it wouldn't be a Homestuck post without an Intermission (possibly the first of several!)

🪣: The Bucket Intermission

I'll keep this short.

Flushed and Pitch pairings can, through undescribed processes, produce a combination of genetic material, which is then collected in a Filial Pail (bucket) by Imperial Drones to be fed to the Mother Grub, who then makes all the baby trolls from the gametes, probably.

Hussie also wrote a short paragraph about dominant and recessive genes which makes me think they know less about dominant and recessive genes than the writers of Metal Gear Solid, but that's not that important right now.

If a troll is unable to provide suitable generic materials, they will be culled by the drone, meaning finding concupiscent quadrantmates is a key goal for a troll's survival.

Anyway, back to romance, with

♣️: The Ashen Quadrant

The clubs symbol notably has 3 circles, which relates to the way this relationship (the most misunderstood one, in my experience) works.

Clubs relationships, or Auspisticisms, are formed when a third troll sees a pair involved in a feud, and decides to step in to mediate, becoming their Auspistice. The purpose of an Auspistice is not the mediate and grow a Pitch relationship, as it's often portrayed, but in fact prevent it from developing.

This is because trolls often feud with each other, causing possible Kismesistudes, but (conventionally) troll romance is monogamous in-quadrant, and having two or more Kismesis would be considered infidelity in conventional troll society, as well as that too many Kismesistudes can increase danger in troll society, and mis-matched rivalries can cause trolls to be stuck in relationships they do not like.

An Auspisticism is often defined by the attraction specifically of the Auspistice *toward* the rival pair, and their wish to mediate them. This is known as an Ashen Crush, much like above Pitch and Flushed Crushes.

Examples of known Auspisticisms within canon Homestuck are Kanaya Maryam between Vriska Serket and Tavros Nitram, Doc Scratch between Spades Slick and Snowman (though Scratch's intervention was more driven by accomplishing his own goal of having Slick kill Snowman), and Jade Harley between Bec Noir and the Peregrine Mendicant in [S] Collide, though this ended in failure.

Next, let's move onto

♥️🔁♠️: Quadrant Vacillation

Another known occurrence within troll society and its romantic framework is the Vacillation of two trolls between multiple quadrants. While canon only gives examples of Flushed/Pitch Vacillation, it's stated that this is but the most common type of Vacillation.

This occurs because troll relationships are incredibly malleable. To quote from the comic again:

In many cases, one party will have red feelings while the other has black. But it will often be the case that one party's feelings will swap to match the other's, since there is no quadrant which naturally accommodates such a disparity. But thereafter, it's not uncommon for the two to toggle between red and black in unison now and then. These scenarios naturally result in both red and black infidelities.

This is stated to be a key reason for the existence of the Ashen and Pale quadrants, to prevent such infidelities. Auspistices are intended to be able to stabilise these turbulent relationships, but failure to uphold this role can lead to more instability and chaos within the mixed relationship.

Equius Zahhak and Aradiabot are shown as the key example of Vacillation, caused by Aradia's distain of the former for his rudeness and the fact he planted a chip inside her robot body that would make her love him, and Equius's attraction to the latter paired with his somewhat fetishisation of the caste system (a story for another time). Vriska Serket and Tavros Nitram's relationship is also mentioned, with Vriska's continued mimicking of Mindfang pushing her to meld Tavros into a fitting Matesprit, while at the same time expressing distain for his unwillingness to broach a relationship, and his wimpish behaviour. This is also further complicated by Tavros genuinely being attracted to Vriska, but too scared of her to commit to a relationship, and their Auspistice Kanaya Maryam's flushed crush on Vriska also, leading to her slacking her duties so to speak.

And now, we move onto the final quadrant, the specifically requested one:

♦️: The Pale Quadrant

Pale relationships are called a Moirallegiance, in which two trolls are Moirails. This quadrant can be liked to soulmates, but with a more platonic (yet still romantic) lean.

Moirails, also called Palemates, exist with the purpose to calm down and pacify their Pale partner. Trolls are (said to be) inherently an angry, violent species, with some being dangerous to themselves or society if left alone. Pale attraction exists for a troll of such tendencies to find a partner who can pacify them (positively), and for even-tempered trolls to seek out those who would benefit from their assistance.

A perfect Moirallegiance is said to consist of two trolls who mutually pacify and assist each other, whose emotional profiles fit together well, helping them to form other relationships in different quadrants with ease.

Moirallegiance is often confused by trolls for platonic friendship, and vice versa, and furthermore, Flushed attraction may be confused for Pale. The Flushed quadrant is said to be "more red" than the Pale one by Eridan Ampora, and likewise the Pitch quadrant "blacker" than the Ashen one, as one might expect from their describing colours.

The most well known Moirallegiance in Homestuck would of course be Meowrails, Nepeta Leijon and Equius Zahhak. Others include the Draconian Dignitary and Bec Noir, Karkat Vantas and Gamzee Makara, and Feferi Peixes and Eridan Ampora (although Eridan held a Flushed crush for Feferi, similar to the one Kanaya held for Vriska during her Moirallegiance with her).

Finally, the an important thing that Moirail can do for their partner, in cases of both dire need of calming down, and a lighter gesture of aid, is the Shoosh Pap, performed by Karkat Vantas to Gamzee Makara to calm him down from his murderous rampage at the end of Act 5 Act 2. Karkat says:

IT'S JUST A TROLL THING, HUMANS WOULDN'T GET IT. 

You would think this is everything, and it almost is, but Hussie's explanation forgoes one particular part of troll romance that is only later elaborated on by Karkat:

♥️♠️♥️♠️: Group Vacillation

Um.

You see.

Do you get it?

I think the diagram is clear enough.

Ok, we're done here.

Edit: it is worth noting that this system of quadrants is actually quite limited, both in terms of actual occurrences in the comic, and how it is often portrayed in fanfiction and fanworks, as (due to its time of writing) does not take into account polyamory in the same quadrant.

Edit 2: Redrom also has nothing canonically related to "pity". Saying "I pity you" to a Moirail or Matesprit in place of "I love you" is not a normal thing for trolls; it's based in a model that exclusively Karkat Vantas came up with and talks about, because of his repressed emotional state; he believes there can only be two emotions, hate and pity, and all other emotions are derived from the two. It's not an accurate representation of the workings of troll romance, only a reflection of his state within the comic.

If you want to know *all* about *all* canon examples of *all* four quadrants, or explanation of the other species's versions of romance, those will have to come at a later date. I could also probably make diagrams. But that will have to do for now, I'm afraid. If you find any inaccuracies that aren't about the spelling of Moirallegiance, (trust me, even the comic doesn't know how to spell it), please let me know! I can also probably answer any questions or clarifications in any reblogs, asks, or replies, but they won't necessarily be this extensive.

(Oh and also if anyone wants me to explain that one gif from the section, I can do that too. You know the one.)

A conversation prior to the end of a world

it sucks so bad that 'lightning magic' in every media is just some pathetic little strands of electricity. i wanna see some LIGHTNING. show me a magic setting where lightning magic lights up a room like the sun, and the bolt is only visible as an afterimage burned into your vision. I wanna see someone cast lightning and have the thunder rattling the room and shaking everyone to their core. i want lightning magic to be a split second blast of so much power it leaves everyone's senses reeling. c'mon guys don't you know what real lightning looks like? we can be doing so much better than this.

To The Substitute Art Teacher - Jordan Bolton

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A Brief Guide to Writing in a Shakespearean or “Old-Timey” Dialect

Sometimes when writing a character from the past, or even just when making memes about historical people, writers/creators use archaic words and phrases to emphasize their old-timey-ness. The problem is, lots of people just throw these words in willy-nilly, with little regard to grammar. Instead of making your character sound old-fashioned and sophisticated, they just sound like they don’t know what they’re talking about. For example:

So, instead of doing this:

Thou, thee, thy, and thine

‘Thou’ and its various forms are the informal second-person pronouns, and ‘you’ is the formal second-person pronoun. In English, the informal fell out of use and we started just calling everyone ‘you’, but if you’ve ever studied a Romance language like Spanish or French, you’ll be familiar with the formal/informal second-person split. Basically, if you’re addressing someone of your station or lower, you can call them ‘thou.’ If you’re addressing someone you speak to with respect, you should still call them ‘you’.

‘Thou’, ‘thee’, ‘thy’, and ‘thine’ are not interchangeable. They are comparable to the forms of ‘you’ or ‘I’ that still exist in English. If we make a chart of the different forms of modern pronouns, we can insert ‘thou’ in all its forms to compare:

If you’re struggling with which form to use, try swapping out the pronouns:

My friend will go with thou thee.

My friend will go with I me.

Some sample sentences:

Thou art a villain.

I want to be with thee.

Give me thy hand.

This book is thine.

Do it thyself.

Subject/Verb Agreement

Most people have noticed that archaic verbs sometimes have ‘-est’ or ‘-eth’ tacked onto the end. These aren’t just there for aesthetic; they have a grammatical purpose. ‘-est’ and ‘-eth’ are different verb conjugations. Again, if you’ve ever studied a foreign language, you’ll be familiar with conjugation charts, where you probably had to fill out different forms of verbs. ‘-est’ is the second-person verb suffix, and ‘-eth’ is the third-person verb suffix.

So for example, if we were to conjugate the verb ‘to run’ in its three singular forms:

I run

thou runnest

he/she/it runneth

Note that we cannot say “I runnest” or “thou runneth;” this is like saying “I runs” in modern English. The subject and verb need to agree. For some common verbs, the suffix can be contracted into the base verb, which is where you see things like:

thou do-est > thou doest > thou dost / she do-eth > she doeth > she doth

thou have-est > thou havest > thou hast / he have-eth > he haveth > he hath

So there you have it. Go forth and write your old-timey characters with joy and grammatical accuracy.

Analysis - on the concept of common sense

First and foremost, this post will both serve as posting one of my slightly older analysis (which needs rework), but also a bit of another status update. For those that just want the analysis, here it is : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WRyKtPOV-xUigwmmaMulT_JoAu-MrZ5uM1EoX7PFqYY/edit?usp=sharing As for the actual status update, I just discovered how the "main" blog and secondary blogs works, and sadly this one wasn't suppposed to be a primary, since I do lore on all things, and wanted to have the main reposting plenty and throwing all kind of things I had (mostly lore and analysis). So I'll be moving my homestuck analysis on another account before I begin to have to many people that follow this one.

Analysis - on the Identity of HEART

This analysis seeks to unravel the metaphysical weight of Heart, not as indulgent introspection, but as the raw material of identity formation, emotional connection, and existential struggle  (Doom's not helping). In a story like Homestuck, where narrative is constantly rewritten and identity is fractured across timelines, Heart remains the anchor.

Let us now delve into the aspect that asks, not who you must become, but who you already are, and whether that is enough for you or not. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p_esteFpvyVMqnAf9t5ePqt7-TM4Qj1ro4DHzu661Fk/edit?usp=sharing

Update of myself

Hello everyone, I have made two more accounts after having been a bit more guided on the subject of TUMBLR. First of all, @taleaddict is the main account for Homestuck related content, with all my analysis on the subject and more being here. Second, @zhardor-kron-archive is my account on the lore of World of Warcraft, with a league of E.V.I.L theme and one of my own characters in wow. And lastly for now, @loremastermanythings is my general account for all subject, analysis, memes and many a thing I might repost. With this establish in both here as it was my first account, and in the www.tumblr.com/loremastermanythings , I will post later in the day my analysis on the Identity of Heart for all to enjoy and comment!

This possesses much knowledge and question on sburb game mechanics, so for any question on the subject, please check this one.

You can ask me about them to, but it would probably be better with someone that handkes this specifically (I will probably also respond in these post.)

Uh, Hello? Is this thing on?

Oh, uh. Ahem-

Greetings! If you are reading this, that means that you’re on Froggernet. Aka: Your a Sburb player. You might have a lot of questions, like; how do I complete this quest? What types of dungeons are on my land? What powers do Mages have? Which enemies drop gas grist? Or maybe you are just curious about things, like what kinds of Npcs are on Prospit, how the game generates lore, how to beat the Nightmare Heir, or what fraymotifs are available to you.

Hell, maybe you even want to ask about the post-game, or optional content!

Unfortunately, Sburb does not come with a game guide. And while there are some forums on Frogger, none all in one place. What to do?

That’s where I come in! Names gracelessGrandeur, or GG. Me and my friends have successfully completed Sburb, and with the help of a…normal source of infinite information, I’m here to help with your Sburbian woes! Ask about whatever mechanics you like, and I’ll be here to help you out! No matter what species, moral alignment, or odd request. I specialize in the game's mechanics, thus the name of the blog, but I'm free to answer anything. Just don’t ask me to fix your game. I’m a god, not a dev!

UPDATE: Make sure to scroll the ggs guidelines tag to know a bit more about the kinds of asks I am willing to take. Spoiler alert: pretty much anything, you just gotta be specific.

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[OOC: This is an askbox along the lines of sntechsupport or sburbian-sage, just from a former player perspective! This does NOT take place in the Replay Value AU, though it does take heavy inspiration from it. Details about the universe, and the blogger, will be revealed as we go along! My main blog is @creativeinfinite13. Happy asking!]

Author Presentation

(Thanks to @lady-doggo to have assisted me in learning tumbr)

Hello everyone, I am TaleAddict, more known as Koltira, a self proclaim LOREMASTER and deranged analyst engaged in a longform philosophical exploration of the Homestuck classpect system. My work blends narrative theory, epistemology, existential philosophy, and character analysis into a “coherent” framework for interpreting aspects and classes not just within Homestuck, but across broader literature, mythology, and media.

Rejecting shallow interpretations and basic classpecting, I attempt to approach classpect not as a fixed system of traits, but as a rich symbolic language for discussing identity, concept , morality, and most importantly LORE.

My current projects include a series of deeply researched, multi-part essays on Homestuck ASPECTS:

The Knowledge of Light – exploring epistemology, truth, and symbolic vision.

The Logic of Mind – dissecting the ethics of decision-making, justice, and consequence.

The Truth of Rage – examining moral disruption, uncomfortable revelation, and destructive clarity.

The Inevitability of Time – integrating Nietzsche’s Eternal Return with the fatalistic beauty of entropy.

The Bonds of Blood – reflecting on social connection, duty, and loyalty as emotional structure.

The Limitations of Doom – tracing constraint, sacrifice, and the ethical weight of inevitable consequence.

The Identity of Heart – a current work in progress focused on selfhood, sincerity, and internal authenticity.

In parallel, I am also analysing whole concept and base ideas, such as my analysis to logic itself, examining deductive, inductive, and abductive reasoning, or my exploratory work on common sense as a social and cultural construction.

My style is rigorous yet personal, infused with as much critical insight, historical awareness, and an evolving metanarrative of the self through the Aspect as shaped by belief, loss, and transformation. Drawing from Nietzsche, Hume, Camus, Kant, and Confucius as comfortably as from Karkat Vantas or Nox from Wakfu, I treat fiction as fertile ground for truth-seeking, not escapism.

I make no claim to authority, and welcome dialogue, critique, and contradiction as vital to the nature of philosophy itself. My aim is not to provide answers, but to trace the threads of meaning across systems, characters, and the human condition.