It is my biggest pet peeve when (mostly) straight people try to make queer people feel guilty for shipping two same gender characters together or say it's problematic to ship them, so I've made a little list debunking their ideas. I'll be talking a lot about Byler but this also applies to Elmax, Ronance, Steddie and queer ships in general.
"Why can't people be friends anymore?" Why can't a guy and a girl be friends either? Why aren't you saying this about Chrissy and Eddie shippers? Unless the issue is that they're gay.
"You're assuming Will is gay based on stereotypes!" Of course, the horrible stereotype that gay guys like men but not women, how problematic of me.
"You're fetishizing children!" No one says this about M*leven shippers. The fact that you view a queer relationship as inherently sexual and adult is sexualising young people much more than shipping Will and Mike does.
"Men will be scared to be affectionate to their friends in real life in case people think that they're gay!" First of all, I doubt some straight guy is going to stop hanging out with his friend because some random person on the internet drew Steddie fanart. And second of all, why are we treating straight men's fear of being perceived as gay as a perfectly valid and normal fear? (I elaborate a bit on this point in the reblogs)
"Why is it okay to say Mike Wheeler is gay but not say Robin is straight? You're erasing his sexuality!" First of all, when did Mike say he's straight? Sure he said he loves Eleven (which I doubt he does anyways) but bi people exist. Plus, there are so many straight characters and ships out there. Straight people don't look up lists of shows with canonical queer representation or watch a show because it has a straight girl in it. Lesbians like myself look up to characters like Robin and they are meaningful to them. No straight person feels seen in their heterosexuality because of Mike Wheeler. The only exception in my opinion is when people headcanon straight characters who are dating trans people as bi like Tao from Heartstopper because that comes off as transphobic.
"They're too young to know that they're gay and you're forcing a sexuality on them." I've known I'm gay since I was eleven or twelve which is the age they are in S1. And yet again, why aren't you saying this about straight people! Everyone accepted that Dustin and Lucas liked Max in S2. Yet Will is too young to know who he likes... Interesting.
"Grown adults wanting two young boys to kiss each other is pretty weird." The issue with this is again the hypocrisy. Adult M*leven shippers don't get told this. Mike kissed Eleven in S1 and it was completely cute and non-sexual because they are children so of course it isn't sexual. Hell they even made out when they were 13 and no one complained. Why would that be any different if he kissed Mike instead of Will? Yet again, people view queer people as being inherently sexual but queer people get cute little crushes or want to kiss people sometimes too. It's not a sexual thing. It's the exact same as a straight person doing it.
Anyways that's my rant done. It just annoys me when half of their arguements saying why it's wrong to ship these characters are just masked homophobia, even if the person saying it doesn't realize. Feel free to add more to this in the reblogs, this is just what I've seen.
“Gay people weren’t around in the 80s!!👹”
oh yeah sorry I forgot gay people only started existing when lady gaga released born this way in 2011. silly me🤪
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sometimes i think maybe it's weird and unhealthy that i spend the majority of my waking hours thinking about Supernatural (TV 2005) but then i remember actually shut up who tf cares. life is hard and there are worse things to be obsessed with. i'm allowed to enjoy thinking about my stupid little bad show
i love you will byers i love that you’re so cheesy that you painted the love of your life as a knight in shining armor and i love that you drew a literal heart on his shield and i love that you think of him as the heart of the party because he’s your heart and i love that deep down you’re a total hopeless romantic despite the fact that you have to hide your feelings and i love that you care so much and i love that even after you’ve been hurt so many times you still have so much to give and and and
sure waiting for the script was wild don’t even think about when it actually drops
i think we’ll all collectively evaporate
You cannot make this shit up
Dean: *suicidal and more depressed than we’ve ever seen him*
Cas: I’ll handle this *rushes to closet for a little outfit*
the going gets tough & the angel dresses up as one of dean’s sexual fantasies so he won’t kill himself
Supernatural is a show
*sobbing* eddie munson would have loved the byers twins *back to sobbing*
Anime byler screenshots, art by me✨
“No, I won’t. I don’t get scared like that anymore.”
WILL BYERS (Stranger Things | The Vanishing of Will Byers 1.1)