XO, KITTY (2023-)

2.01 || 3.04

We get it, Ricky, you don’t like air quotes.

Not Adrien ending up at the end of the episode with feelings even WORSE about Ladybug, himself and where their partnerhood currently stands

After asking her what she wanted to talk about with him (something he was so sure of she wanted to do because she was furious with him) on the Eiffel tower and now knowing that it apparently wasn't supposed to be a private conversation in the first place with Ladybug being in contact with Viperion via earpiece

Not one half of AstroChats face visually looking like ShadowMoths half-covered face through the reflection of CosmoBug who is turning away from him.

Not AstroChats purple-yellow eyes fitting a bit too perfectly with the eye color schemes his akumatized self and Gabriel had for the entire episode

I'm not going to sleep tonight again, won't I?

Plagg: In the end, it doesn’t matter since they’re the same girl!

Me:

After defeating Hawkmoth, Ladybug and Chat Noir decide to meet at a specific table at a specific café as civilians and finally get to know each other behind the masks. They both try to get there anxiously early but Marinette, being the disaster she is, arrives with a box of personalized sweets after Adrien has already taken the table. Now, as excited as she is to run into the love of her life like this, she needs the table and she’s going to get it. She goes over and they exchange friendly greetings but as soon as she asks for the table Adrien gets serious and gives her a stern “No”. Marinette continues trying to convince him to leave but he insists that he needs the table because he has a date with the love of his life and he ain’t budging (that explains the bouquet he has with him) and it hurts to hear that but not as much as its going to hurt him when she removes him from the goshdang table by force.

They both wind up getting kicked out of the café btw

Are there Adrien Salt takes that you agree with?

I mean, the thing about salt that I inherently disagree with is how it often equates "a character making a mistake / doing something 'bad' " to "a bad character / poor writing / a bad person".

Like, I could sit here and list out all the mistakes that Adrien has made, but that doesn't mean I agree with the salt interpretation of those mistakes. I kind of equate "[character] salt" in the fandom at this point with "bad faith criticism of the character", and no, I don't have any 'bad faith' criticisms of Adrien.

I think at the end of the day, Adrien and Marinette are both flawed characters who have done things I disagree with, but those flaws and decisions are what make them compelling characters. And even when I don't agree with their choices, I always understand why they made them (and it's almost always either some kind of trauma response or a misguided attempt to do good), and that's why I love them.

They're just kids, they're genuinely trying their best, and they're going to make some interesting mistakes along the way. I don't personally see any point in fixating on those mistakes. That's just not how I enjoy the show.

( also, please no one add salt to this post. just wanted to answer the question and honestly I'd prefer to stay sodium-free. make your own post if you must. )

long post on the hsmtmts initial core 4 and their relationships and development i guess:

a lot of yall think getting into a relationship solves every existing problem within these characters and then get shocked when these exact problems get brought up again. the dumbest thing is that yall then bring up the argument “why spend the whole season building them up only to break them up in the next” or “you’re ruining their character development” as if we are not watching the same show and the answers are not right in front of you.

ricky accepted moving on from nini and it took her making a move and almost kissing him for him to realise he could go back to that and have one thing stay the same. he was terrified of change while she running towards change. i’m not saying he didn’t love her, but i’m saying that loving her was not the only reason for him to run back on his path of growth. and then in season two he did not like the person he was becoming with nini. ricky is not out of character this season but actually falling back to his character. because i don’t know what show yall were watching in season one but he was always goofy and carefree around gina. when he was reminiscing his friendship with nini he talked about himself as someone who was carefree and easygoing. he is not acting weird now just because yall did not pay attention to his character. he finally restored his relationship with his mother and no longer in a relationship where he feels he is being left behind, of course he no longer acts like an angsty teenager. please think a little.

nini got called out for making her life about boys and she tried to find her own person. but people seem to forget that besides that silly song that she did not actually grow from boys. in fact, right after that conversation with kourtney she was already getting jealous of ricky and gina. and right after that song she was already trying to kiss ricky. she needed that second chance with him to realise that an “i love you” wasn’t the problem of their relationship and they needed to work a lot more than just ricky’s feelings and communication. she also needed to know that her song wasn’t just for show and she actually needed to define herself and not having relationships define her.

they have not once been on the same page throughout season one and that was an argument people made before season two even aired and for some reason some of you were still shocked how things unfolded. (some even blamed outside drama but that’s another topic altogether) i feel like some of you guys are just not watching the show because this is a disney show, the subtext is not that deep. most of the things are right in your face.

and for some reason yall doing it again this season and i’m confused what part of the show have you missed? ej’s anxiety has been ongoing since season one. he is a guy that has never known anything less than perfection, and we could see that it comes from his family. he doesn’t work well with pressure and doesn’t really know his own way if things are not mapped out for him. he freaked out with having to play troy last minute, and freaked out with not being accepted into duke. mr mazzara told him to find a story and learn from it, so he focused on gina. now i’m not saying he hasn’t or couldn’t learn from gina, but that it was a pivotal moment in his life to finally learn about himself but he chose not to. now he is at camp with his girlfriend, with a responsibility he did not ask for but obviously wouldn’t turn away because that’s who he is. he had the summer mapped out for him but not anymore and that freaks him out. delivering anything less than perfection also freaks him out. this is something he should’ve started dealing with since last season when he realised his sense of self came from his family expectations. just like ricky, he got into a relationship to delay a growth that’s impossible to stumble upon. in addition, this guy severely lacks communication skills for someone that has been implied to be in several relationships. it happened with nini, it happened in the season finale with gina, and it’s happening once again. he creates scenarios in his head and goes with it instead of talking with the other person. in fact, he communicates his problems with anyone (ashlyn and now val) but the intended person. contrary to popular belief, “i’m no longer cunning” is not growth. specially when all his actions of redemption in season one was to make himself feel better. his character development is only starting now because besides not accepting that duke offer his dad practically bought him, he actually had no growth.

and then you have gina, a girl who entered a relationship in order to feel safe, seen and loved while not being over ricky. and deny it all you want, but that scene in carlos’ party wasn’t closure. her having to be away from ricky to create a path for ej and have her focus on it is not moving on. it’s only just creating a diversion that would eventually go back to its original path. this is also not me saying that she doesn’t like ej. it’s me saying that her heart has never been 100% with him because she never actually retrieved it from ricky in the first place. moreover, her character growth has never been about her “dropping the attitude” but about opening herself up to others and not run away when things get complicated as she never actually had the opportunity to form relationships and know how to communicate in them. that she doesn’t have to compromise who she is in order to feel loved and accepted.

and to just be clear, i’m not saying that these ships can’t eventually find each other again. but it’s never a surprise when a breakup is eventually coming towards them. and using “but they spend the whole season building them up” as an excuse is not the take you think it is. and that their character development is more than just “i did bad things and now i don’t” when they’re not actually growth. a lot of yall take one song or dialogue as character development and fail to realise that their actions are not following along and then call it “repetitive” when it gets brought up again when it hasn’t even been solved in the first place.

and i’m also not saying rina is above them. (although i do believe they are) but what i’m saying is that ricky and gina always had story arcs that flowed together and yet, it wasn’t time for them. so for me it makes no sense to question why rina is still a thing because you just do not understand the concept of slow burn and do not understand that these characters and their storylines have always been intertwined from the very first season. i understand the denial in season one, but if you finished season two truly believe they were over and done with, you’re either obtuse, or you were settling for extremely bad writing.

FROM SCRIPT TO SCREEN ↳ RICKY & GINA in High School Musical: The Musical: The Series — 3x08: Let It Go

hello everyone just passing by to say that there’s no heterosexual explanation for this photos okay bye

carrie becoming alex's gay icon and him dancing on stage with her is truly unmatched.... she walked through him TWICE??? and even tho they never bring up again the implications of the guys knowing someone's soul after someone walks through them, i like to imagine alex sending that carrie doesn't have a cruel heart, and that she could be worthy of redemption in the future.... im actually livid that we didn't ever get to see an actual alex/carrie bestie duo.... she didn't need a blonde boyfriend she needed a gay blonde best friend..... i needed to see carrie be alex's hag im so fr

Me, getting out of bed to face the world: I’m proud, I’m confident, I’m Marinette!