This is my attempt at trying to chronicle the brief yet significant relationship of Taylor Swift and Emily Poe. I’ve tried to get this as accurate as possible, based on what I could research off the internet. If I find more information or corrections, I’ll update this accordingly.
Emily Poe (now Stumler) was primarily Taylor’s fiddle player during the Taylor Swift and Pre-Fearless era. Her linkedIn profile states that she was working with Taylor from July 2006 until January 2008. She lists that her duties included: “[having] Aided in image management, artist relations, and marketing strategy for artist. Performed for all live shows as the fiddle player and background vocalist. Assisted in merchandise sales at venues.”
Prior to the release of Taylor’s debut album, Emily was already hired as part of the band. Majority of their time together was spent on the road as Taylor became the opening acts of multiple country artists. Thus, this timeline will be heavy with journal mentions, pictures, and videos from their stops on tour, life on the bus, etc. which are labeled accordingly.
——2006——
**I find Taylor’s MySpace Bios from around that time very interesting. :)
2006-early 2008 = “I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend. I don’t go out looking for guys. But then again, I don’t write alot of love songs. Basically.. I’m single.” (x)
2008 = “I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend. I believe that love will find you when you’re not looking for it.. So I’ve been actively NOT looking for it for about 3 years now. I’ll let you know how that works out for me. It probably doesn’t help that I write songs about every guy I talk to.” (x)
July 22 - [Journal Entry] First mention of Emily with Taylor basically fangirl-ing over her (x)
July 24 - First live performance with Emily
Live @ The Whiskey a Go Go (video) where Taylor dropped this bit when introducing the band: “This is Emily over here on fiddle. Now Emily has a boyfriend, but she has agreed that what happens in LA stays there.” [3:56 mark]
Tim McGraw Performance with Nathan Chapman & Emily - (x) (x) [unknown specific date]
Rhapsody TV performances - (x) (x) [unknown specific date]
Performing at a football game with Scott Borchetta & Emily - (x) (x) [unknown specific date]
September 1 - Grand Ole Opry debut performance (x 1:34 mark)
October 19-28 & November 1-3 - On Tour with Rascal Flatts as an opening act replacing Eric Church (x) (x) (x)
——2007——
January 11 to March 3 - On Tour with George Strait as an opening act (x)
January 12 - [Journal Entry] their first show with George Strait and being domestic with Emily on the bus (x)
January 17 - [Journal Entry] talks about Emily and the ‘Teardrops on My Guitar’ MV shoot (x)
February 12 - [Journal Entry] mentions Emily and their Grey’s Anatomy watching rituals on the bus (x)
May 30 - Taylor sang the Original Version of ‘Sparks Fly’ (which she wrote in 2006 before releasing ‘Tim McGraw’) at a show in Gold Country Casino in CA. The next few times she performed it that year were in bar shows with around only 40-50 people.
April - September - select dates of Brad Paisley’s Bonfires & Amplifiers Tour
Pranking Rodney Atkins (video) (x) - November ½ as of her MySpace Journal Entry (the last of which she mentions Emily by name or at all)
fooling around backstage with standees of Brad (x)
June - September - select dates of Tim McGraw & Faith Hill’s Soul2Soul Tour (x) (x) (x) (x)
October - duo Halloween costume as ‘The Wreckers’ with Taylor as Michelle Branch & Emily as Jessica Harp (x) (x) (x)
November - Taylor’s First CMAs performance (her last with Emily as part of the whole band). (x)
December
CMT’s Studio 330 Sessions (pictures) / (videos)
Taylor’s MySpace journal entry dated Dec. 05, 2007 - where she mentions meeting Colbie Caillat and says they “got together and wrote a killer song”
Emily attends Taylor’s 18th Birthday party at Lot 7 in Nashville (pictures) (x) / (MV for the song ‘Beautiful Eyes’ released in 2008 using footage from the party)
—-TOUR VIDEOS/MOMENTS ON TOUR/STUFF ON THE BUS [specific dates are unknown]—-
With Scott Brochetta & label officials at Big Machine Records - (x)
Emily in a cheerleader outfit - (x) (x)
With fans/other musicians/friends - (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x)
With Mama Swift - (x) (x)
Just the two of them - (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x)
the “Gay Texan” picture - (x)
Taylor & Emily in a restaurant playing with utensils - (x) Emily says at the end, “People are getting really mad” while Taylor laughs
2007 Summer Vacation to the Grand Canyon - (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x)
Setting fire to a Dora the Explorer cake - (x) (x)
A compilation of her tour diaries - (x) Emily appears multiple times
*Taylor’s MySpace Video for Emily - which featured Taylor and many different people holding up a handwritten sign that read “I love you, Emily ❤️ [hand drawn heart]”, a letter to her from Taylor, apart from a montage of their moments together set to ‘Stolen’ by Dashboard Confessional as the background song (’you have stolen my heart’ is a repeated lyric).
the letter, reads: “Emily– I feel as if our relationship has been taken to the next level over the past few months and with much contemplation I decided I would bestow upon you one of my most prized possession: my flamingo bandana. This is a 3rd generation family heirloom and i suggest you frame it. I think it will look perfect in your apartment with the cat pillows. Enjoy”
——2008——-
January - Grand Ole Opry Performance / Last Documented-Live Performance with Emily (x)
July - ‘Beautiful Eyes’ EP release / Taylor posted the video for ‘I’m Only Me When I’m With You’ which includes snippets of Emily since a lot of the footage was taken from her tour diaries.
November - ‘Fearless’ release date -> “Breathe” ft. Colbie Caillat
in addition to the fact that it was written around the time she lasts mentions Emily by name on her blog (or at all), Taylor’s explanation about writing ‘Breathe’ points it very much towards Emily. (part 1) (part 2)
Taylor: “It was total therapy because I came in and I was like look you know one of my best friends, I’m going to not have to see anymore and is not going to be part of what I do and it’s like the hardest thing to go through. It’s crazy listening to the song because you’d think it’d be about a relationship, but it’s really about losing a friend and having a fallout, just the loss.”
Colbie: “It can relate to anyone, anything.”
Taylor: “It does, it’s never specific as to why, that’s my favorite thing about it, it doesn’t talk about why or who’s fault it was because sometimes the hardest time of when you say goodbye it’s nobodies fault. It just has to stop.”
The lyrics tell the story so well, honestly. (x) especially the repeated and haunting ‘i’m sorry’
Did I mention the song’s secret message on the album was ‘i’m sorry i’m sorry i’m sorry’ as well? (x)
——————-
2011 - 3 years later…
VH1 posts a pop-up video for ‘Our Song’ and basically challenges the reason on Emily’s departure. It explains that she was allegedly fired without being given a reason and that “Taylor never talked to her again”. Thus further fueling the idea that “Breathe” was really about Emily and that it was more than just a ‘friendship falling out’.
In January/February 2012, Emily & her husband’s wedding/love story was featured in an article. She cites a bit of her time with Taylor and says that it led her to pursue law school thus leaving music (and Taylor) for good. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“…I started with watching her on the road,” she explained. “She had just started and I lived with her on the bus with her mom, and I was watching you know, deals come through. She got this deal with Verizon and instead of - you know, I loved music - but I would sit there and read the contracts. I thought, I think I really want to do this. So when I came off the road I pretty much went straight to law school. I loved contracts. “The last week I was working for her ‘Our Song’ was Number 1,” she continued. “So I watched a growth of the artist. There’s tons of business involved, that’s what people don’t realize. It’s more than just the music.”
I’ve gotten a couple of anons wondering if I have, or you should have, some sympathy for Yael. Just to be clear I do not, and don’t think anyone else should. And I don’t think Taylor does either. Remember what she said after the masters thing:
(You may also choose to believe or not that she called her “a d-slur cunt” in front of a party of influential people including at least one friend. You have to be the judge of whether you believe this, but if she did, that friend would have been able to confirm it to Taylor.)
This is, I believe, what prompted Taylor to release Mad Woman. “What do you expect me to say to that? Does a scorpion sting when fighting back?” In other words, did Yael and scooter really think Taylor was just going to let this go? Did Yael (a Scorpio) let it go? “Women like hunting witches too, doing your dirtiest work for you.”
I just read a gossip article this morning that rumor is that Yael was privately unhappy with the whole way scooter handled the masters thing. Sure. This is EXACTLY the same sort of rumor that was passed around late last year, that Kim K was sorry for how Taylor was treated during Snapchatgate and that Kim K sent an apology note to Taylor saying she regretted it and felt like she was manipulated into participating. Sure. Even if any of that is remotely true you still did that and tried to ruin her career (and arguably her personal life) and you were very deliberate about it and it went on for months, even years and you bragged about it. Don’t give me this “I’m just a woman manipulated by bad men” sob story after the public opinion pendulum has swung against you. You’re a dick, plain and simple.
I’ve also gotten anons asking about scooter, and whether he has always had this bad of a reputation (since so many seem to be relishing in his marriage trouble) and I can’t say for sure because I’ve only followed his career for 3.5 years. But my impression was that yes he has had a bad reputation, but worked very very hard at reforming his image for the last 5-6 years. And he almost succeeded. I think he was generally doing a good job with it, and while many in the industry knew he was a typical Hollywood sleaze, they didn’t quite realize how awful he is, and the GP had quite a high opinion of him. But then he made a big mistake. That mistake was underestimating Taylor’s hatred for him and not realizing that she would sacrifice money and time and energy in order to get back at him. Most just go along with these situations because they want money and don’t want to make enemies. Taylor said “not this time sleazeball.” And I think it absolutely blind-sided scooter. I think he is a textbook narcissist and has an outsized opinion of his own abilities (classic example of “thinks he’s the smartest in the room” when he most definitely is not.) And if Yael has regrets about any of it, it’s that scooter made this mistake and took it too far and this was the result. Not that he did what he did and she thinks it was unethical or slimey, but that he did it poorly and ended up the loser and she also looks like a loser. That’s what she’s mad at.
All that being said, we are now seeing and will continue to see a barrage of scooter and Yael trying to control this narrative in a way that puts them in the best light. Things will be amicable. They’ll try to make it work. It will be a conscious uncoupling. They will be supportive co-parents of their kids, so much respect, yadda yadda yadda. Him being a cheating sleazbell will never be openly mentioned. Because in the world of PR if you ignore something long enough it might go away, and if you retell the same lies over and over it eventually becomes somewhat believable. Some will come from scooter’s people to paint him in the best light, some from Yael’s doing the same, and some from them both as agreed upon. This is the PR game. Every single thing you see or read from them will be feeding a narrative to paint them in the best light. And on the other side, whoever is leaking things that are unflattering will likely continue to do so. And some will believe one side and some will believe the other, some will openly say one thing while privately believing another. And some gossip sites will relish in the dirt and some will sell the more positive story they are fed, whatever gets clicks. Also note that none of these gossip articles mention “the master of spin has a couple side flings”from Taylor’s mouth. They talk about their feud around the masters. They talk about his cheating rumors. But no one connects the dots to Mad Woman. It’s fascinating. They talk about his cheating rumors but they don’t talk about where those rumors came from. Why that is, I’m not entirely sure, but I’ve noted it.
Meanwhile, I will continue to watch and see what comes of the career of the wannabe media mogul now rebranded as Scott Braun, because godammit it’s fascinating and juicy.
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Why are you convinced it’s about Abigail? There are so many references that leads back to Taylor and a certain 6’2 sunshine/ giraffe.
“Honey when I’m above the trees, I see this for what it is. But now I’m right down in it, all the years I’ve given” and “Please picture me in the trees, I hit my peak at seven feet. In the the seing over the creek, I was too scared to jump in”. First few lines of Happiness and Seven, seems like the end and start of the forest and trees that tie them together going full circle.
“Showed you all of my hiding spots, I was dancing when the music stopped” - seems like a reference to I Know Places and Dancing with our Hands Tied during Peak Kaylor
“From the dress I wore at midnight, leave it all behind” - seems like a reference to Dress and New Years Day (her midnights) which we think is for a certain 6’2 sunshine
“I can't make it go away by making you a villain. I guess it's the price I pay for seven years in heaven.” — seems to be a reference for her public ex-BFF hated by swifties who’s also a VS ANGEL
I’m sure there are many more references to the two but above are the glaring ones. I wish it was for Abigail too, given her timely breakup as well but there are TOO MANY KAYLOR references in Happiness. Us Kaylors, used to say her real story is in her songs regardless of what she strategically says to market her albums.
How are you objectively convinced it’s about Abigail despite all of these references? I am genuinely asking.
Because my recollection is that Taylor said it is about a breakup that one of her friends went through. And days after that we learned that Abigail was getting a divorce. It fits their relationship of seven years.
And, Taylor is still with Karlie so it doesn’t fit for her to write that about them.
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Forgive me if this has already been discussed but... have we considered that the “facade” could be Jerklie’s relationship?
Rumors started (deliberately) swirling in the press in November 2012 that KK and JK were dating.
Us Weekly 11/8/12:
Daily Mail 11/27/12:
Four years later, KK implied she met JK in June 2012. So we are supposed to gather their “relationship” started sometime between June and November 2012.
Was Spade trying to tell us Jerklie’s contract ends in 2022? And that’s why Taylor dropped some random references to ‘22’? (There is some debate about how long a decade actually is but at least one definition fits with this timeline).
There’s this from an Entertainment Weekly video in the Lover era (5/9/19). Right before she does this she is talking about the palm trees she posted on IG when she finished Lover. She says “A palm try symbolizes rebirth, new beginnings, positive energy. So...” *precedes to sort of randomly/awkwardly throw two “peace” signs up before the video cuts to the next topic.
Taylor later referenced ‘22’ with freaking lavender icing in her hair (4/27/20).
Now I bet there have been a million pivots behind the scenes so even if this was what Spade was trying to convey, it may not mean anything now. And the implications of KK potentially signing on two a two year contract ending in the midst of a potential second Trump term are complicated.
All I really know is that Taylor will be releasing her version of Red on 11/19/21. And she made sure to remind us the album resembles a heartbroken person before referencing a friend who calls in the middle of the night to talk about their ex..
Cc @spade-riddles
Can you believe Taylor started an era entirely about being seen on Lesbian Visibility Day, following up Delicate whose video was about being invisible to everyone except your Lover. Truly the gayest thing ever
god i know………… LESBIAN VISIBILITY DAY!!!! she spent all of lesbian visibility day yelling ME! OUT NOW!! after she’d spent all of rep era talking about being seen for who she truly is and even made the concept of invisibility fully literal in the delicate video in case her saying it in words in the rep prologue wasn’t clear enough for people… after she confirmed that delicate was for the gays and even brought back invisible.mp3 from her fucking debut album as a secret song and made a speech explicitly connecting invisibility with being closeted and coming out. and now the whole bridge and emotional climax of her most emotional and intensely personal song yet is her just repeating “they see right through me can you see right through me i see right through me” over and over… y’all……
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because we all need some positive thoughts, what's your favorite kaylor moment?
This pic! If you were not following back then, this was a Kaylor reunion after they had been apart for weeks. Both of their schedules were so busy and so public so we knew they had not seen each other for awhile. Then Taylor showed up in London at Karlie’s Fund Fair event. The photographer said this was when Taylor walked in, and the screeched when they saw each other. 🥰 We got lots of great pics that night!
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