The 6th gif was wild like give her an Oscar Shay was ACTING
favorite platonic relationships: spencer hastings, hanna marin, emily fields and aria montgomery “They can take everything from us, but they can’t take us from each other. I don’t care how far apart from you guys I am, I will still be with you. I love you guys.”
Its crazy how multiple people have confirmed that jongins been in arrested development his whole life and people think he is mature. He is physically developed but his maturity is stuck at like age 8 when his father pushed him to become something in the ent sector. So many people never talk about how stressful his life must have been he was in school full time plus over 5 activities. He said over the years he did art, calligraphy, he tried taekwondo but he sucked, jazz, tap dancing, and ballet and was an sm terminal for years before even auditioning again and becoming a trainee. On top of they wanted him to be a child model. He would of had issues even if he wasnt in s.m but sm is another reason why he wasnt able to develop. All the staff became substitite parents and babied him. He just stopped being a kid which is why he is the way he is. His office is full of child's toys and he constantly refrences cartoons. He literally is mentally stuck at that age and even kids find him immature. Which explains why he doesnt say anything when kids tease him and never demands they respect him because they think he and them are on the same level. Ricky kim even basically said this when asked why Kai was so good with kids. I also noticed he never demands younger people respect him or use honorifics. He doesnt even understand the concept or at least he doesnt think it even applies to him. Hence why he argued with Taemin in middle school about the honorifics thing and didnt think it was important. Honestly its not a sweet thing but a real psychological hangup he has that he requires others to take care of him at all times, whether on variety, in a band or in his friendgroup. During the variety they did im 2022 I think his different mindset is so apparent now that he can actually talk more. He doesn't get jealous in relationships allegedly cause 8 year olds don't really care that complexly about relationships. Physical boundaries mean nothing to him so thats why he is okay with a partner feeding or zipping up someones jacket. Him talking to a psych major is so funny cause i know he is already aware of all of this cause he reads psychology books. SO he's aware but that doesnt change his issues. You cannot fix this problem unless you go back in time and become a kid again. Which is something he's constantly trying to do. Lmao that why the other member said he thinks he's gen z it was an inside joke because he really does think he is younger than he is. It happens to lots of people. Which also explains why he was begging to be a few years younger a few years ago and didnt want to talk about being 30. They will be married with kids but they are still psychologically stuck at a certain age. A lot of people say he acts like he's five but I will go with 8 because thats when he began doing all those activities. Too much stress on tiny very young person like it was gonna happen regardless. His stage persona is a mask yes, but its more than that. That is the person he created to be what the top superstars during his youth were.
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I feel like a big huge GIGANTIC maybe even GINORMOUS reason for the eventual and inevitable decline of the average kpop fandom, i.e the exo fandom is the absolute refusal and denial to have serious conversations. When I look at other fandoms some way older, others not even half as profitable as your average boy brand, the only difference that I see with the exo brand vs say a nsync or micheal jackson fandom or maybe even a gravity falls fandom, is conversation. See, whenever you silence the majority of people who actually have something interesting to say, don't be surprised when those that are simply following the wave, just move on to whatever is new and shiny. Supernatural is an old as hell fandom and they still have kept up a large support system, and it's not because they come out with new music every five minutes. It's because the writers, creators and actors listen. The fans communicate, they talk about serious things. Whether it's about the story, plot, an actor just having a baby and them sending well wishes. The average failed fandom is hostile, both inside and out. S.m is hostile towards the artist, the artist are distant towards the fans and the fans are hostile towards one another. You cannot have a different opinion than what the company is directing you to have, you can't disagree with the majority opinion. There's no talking anything out, there's no theorizing, there's no creativity, there's no point to anything. So how can you be surprised kpop fandoms die so completely after about 5-7 years, maybe a few after that. Even me saying will insult people and cause them to be negative. When this is just constructive criticism. Yet, nobody wants any of that in the kpop fandom. This is why once the companies stops promoting or giving major bucks to a group the fandoms die completely. It's not self sustaining. A lot of these fans have a lack of actual passion towards the group. Because what passion can you have for a manufactured product? Fans even insult a hypothetical groups of fans. Getting angry and cursing and throwing out toxicity more than they will say commentary on an album, or give an opinion on a video.
Even when it's something meant to garner talk fans ignore it and would rather get angry at something hypothetic, 'like yeah if anyone says anything negative about this I'll do xyz, screw them, or comment about allegedly seeing something negative written somewhere'
It's exhausting and immature. Nobody wants to be apart of something so negative. I get people want attention and comments, but honestly I don't blame fans for rescinding. Many fans must go to secretive forums to have conversations that would get them mass reported. And guess what? Some fans are still trying to get those forums shut down. You can't give an opinion, you can't talk about the obvious, you can't be happy if someone wants to leave a group and live their own life. You have to stay in this middle school mindset forever or you will get attacked. But then people wonder why people just lurk and don't say anything, or support the group. Nobody wants to support a bunch of lunatics.
People like to talk freely, laugh, make funny videos, people do not want to deal with being judged or mocked for making a joke. So many creators have been bullied into deleting all their work and now the same people who helped get rid of those people are wondering why their work isn't popular like theirs. I remember days when genuinely talented people would make content and it was great, but if they said something TRUE they were bullied.
It's honestly really sad, but I don't really feel bad. This has happened to loads of fandoms. Stop bullying people off the internet for speaking freely.
I'll leave this here as a food for thought.
There's only two exo creators I can name that made a real positive cultural impact with spreading the group to a global audience. Exosexo and madeline. Both were bullied out the kpop fandom spere. Nobody feels any shame for doing so. Despite the fact that many people constantly cry about idol's mental health, but had no cares for if these girls would of hurt themselves due to all the bullying.
I wasn't in the fandom when the two of them were bullied but I'm sure I would of thought the people doing so were pathetic just like I do now.
Once I found out the reason for them bullying exosexo and knowing that now she is doing a great job promoting her new fandom anime, and is really successful at it, it's clear kpop fans lost out.
Her grave sin was saying that all of exo had plastic surgery, to which millions of people called her racist and a liar....
I could insult but what would be the point of that. Stupid wouldn't even be the word. Most have said outwardly or implied that they've gotten it; or maybe the fact that you can see some of their surgery scars might be enough, but when you worship another human as a grown adult of course your brain has to be for decoration.
Even if she was dead wrong, how is that racist? It's not people just use whatever they can to make others shut up. Even trying to get journalists fired if they don't butter up whatever kpop idol they are talking about. As long as you act like a petulant child of course your average listener is going to dip and ignore and block any kpop content they see. In the end that poor behavior will only hurt the industry you are trying to support.
movements can and will evolve. Lmao the point is to shock people into making change, it's very simple.
How long have you been on Tumblr? Any fandom not just Exo. About seven year-ish on and off
What is your take on fan created works on Tumblr and interacting with them? To be honest a lot of it is lacking or very agenda based. I don't critique because people on tumblr are over-emotional about their art. You can say you like it but if you don't 'love it' they say why even comment, so I don't.
Do you have a process for what goes on your blog? How do you find most of the posts you reblog? Through the dash? Through the tags? I don't have a process I just like stuff, art and words that is positive uplifting and not inappropriate. I don't ship so that leaves a lot of fandom stuff off limits. I don't like sexualizing people on my blog or in general, whether they are celebs or not. People on here and social media lowkey do too much with that. So I just don't reblog, or support most of it. Over time it's also hard to get people to understand the difference between fandom stories and believing 'ships' are real.
Do you spend time on other platforms? Have you in the past?Twitter and other forums, vine back in the day. Youtube was a big one but now there are too many people just saying what they think fans want to hear. Not much authenticity.
How do you interact with fan creations on these other platforms? Do you like comment or share? Do you re-tweet? Etc. I may comment if the people don't seem hostile. K fandoms act like they have no sense. If you don't love something or if you God forbid try to critique or discuss something, you may accidentally start a war. So I might like something, but I try not to engage too much.
When was the last fic of any length (drabble and blurbs and headcanons/reactions included) you read? Last time you saw fanart (including edits and moodboards and graphics) you enjoyed? The last fic I read was a hyperionova one called fatal miscalculations. It's pretty old and one of the rare ones I may reread from time to time. I almost never see fanart or fan creations I like, but to be fair I don't look for them. Maybe the cute little cartoons on twitter that spread around.
Did you reblog it? No. I do not want much fandom stuff on any of my profiles. Years ago I wouldn't mind it, but now I like a balance, with kpop being barely on my page. Because then people expect you to have certain opinions or lack therefore of. I don't like that. People might see certain fandom material on your blog and talk to you a certain way, kpop fans are extremely disrespectful in general. And it's a hive mind mentality. I don't want to attract that.
If you didn't leave commentary was there a reason? Do you feel like you start to repeat yourself when commenting? Do you think there's nothing to say? Were you following the adage if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all? Other reasons? I don't comment because it's like you can only give a specific rehearsed answer therefore I don't see a point. In the past it was possible to interact online with others and have fun individual conversations. Now people are hostile. If you don't say exactly what they want to hear, they will be mean or insult you, or say why even comment. So I avoid this by not commenting at all.
If no you did not reblog why? Is there a specific reason? Did you not like it and not want to say? Does it not fit your blog? Was it not a length or level of skill you felt warranted a reblog? Have your friends already seen it? Do you only post your own creations? Other reasons? I don't reblog, firstly because a lot of the art that I see isn't my style. I appreciate it and I like it, but it's not something I'd commission for. I do reblog things that fit my style, but most fandom stuff does not.
I'm genuinely curious as to the answers, so if you see this could you please do me the favour of signal boosting this so it reaches more people?
I see posts circulating now and again about lack of interaction on fandom creation posts. No one reblogs. No one comments. But I never see anyone asking why. Is it simply a matter of being in the middle of an etiquette shift? Is it crossplanted members of social media communities having different social norms? Has the way people use Tumblr shifted? Speculation only goes so far so to better understand what I'd like to know is the following:
How long have you been on Tumblr? Any fandom not just Exo.
What is your take on fan created works on Tumblr and interacting with them?
Do you have a process for what goes on your blog? How do you find most of the posts you reblog? Through the dash? Through the tags?
Do you spend time on other platforms? Have you in the past?
How do you interact with fan creations on these other platforms? Do you like comment or share? Do you re-tweet? Etc.
When was the last fic of any length (drabble and blurbs and headcanons/reactions included) you read? Last time you saw fanart (including edits and moodboards and graphics) you enjoyed?
Did you reblog it?
If yes you did reblog did you say anything about it? Simple or otherwise? Leave a gif underneath that expressed how you felt? Put a comment in the tags? Left an emoji? Etc.
If you didn't leave commentary was there a reason? Do you feel like you start to repeat yourself when commenting? Do you think there's nothing to say? Were you following the adage if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all? Other reasons?
If no you did not reblog why? Is there a specific reason? Did you not like it and not want to say? Does it not fit your blog? Was it not a length or level of skill you felt warranted a reblog? Have your friends already seen it? Do you only post your own creations? Other reasons?
For our fan creators I have an extra question. Do you reply to your comments? Even if they're in the tags?
If no is there a reason?
Please take a moment and share your answers cause I'm trying to understand where things shifted from what they were before to now.
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Rather than arguing with those I don't agree with I will channel my creativity cause that is my gift..arguing is not also its pointless.