What Frank said: "You asked me for a favor. I did it."
What Frank meant: "Did I do a good job? Tell me I did a good job. PLEASE TELL ME I DID A GOOD JOB 🥺"
He does the same to Karen, pushing her away just when she re-enters his life. Reflecting on that, do you think Frank loves Karen, that he genuinely feels that way?
“I think he does, and I wish that we could have had a little bit more time together. It’s a relationship worth exploring. I think if anybody could handle Frank, it’s Karen. He says to her, “You’ve got to stay away from me. I know for a fact now that I’m the one that brings all this darkness,” and it’s funny because I think Karen truly understands that and accepts that. She can handle it. But it’s part of the evolution of Frank realizing that solitude is the only way forward.”
-Jon Bernthal on Frank’s relationship with Karen in Season 2 via EW
You heard his too?
Oh, yeah.
Frank rejecting Karen vs. Karen rejecting Frank
The Punisher, s2e11 | Daredevil: Born Again, s1e09
Now, ma'am, do you have anything for me or not? Maybe I just ought to go back and rot in my goddamn jail cell? Yeah. Yeah, I did some digging.
DAREDEVIL — 2.07 "Semper Fidelis"
-You know, back at his place, I heard your heartbeats. -God, that is really not fair. You heard his too? -Oh, yeah.
the way I NEED Kastle to become canon for my growth and development as a person
cuz if Matt and Karen become endgame, I will turn into a villain. Matt already had his chance with her, and he's gone and dated a whole bunch of other women. Karen deserves someone who wants her as desperately as Frank does!!
if you're on instagram get off that thing and go outside
if you're on tumblr hold fast and keep scrolling soldier
KAREN PAGE SPOTTED PICKING UP BOTH BOYFRIENDS AFTER AN APARTMENT EXPLOSION!!!! crazy work but women are out here again saving men again
"We can't even entertain the idea of being together unless he comes back from the dark side, He has to pick: Is it going to be this vendetta, or is it going to be life? Presumably, maybe, life with me. And then when he says no, it's just doubly devastating.” — Deborah Ann Woll [x]
THE PUNISHER | 1.05 — Gunner
“he and karen understand each other at a level that’s cosmic”
And for Frank and Karen, even though it ends with them going their separate ways and having made their choices, he did say that he loves Karen, and she was able to say that back. It felt great to do that. — Deborah Ann Woll[x]
People that can hurt you, the ones that can really hurt you, are the ones that are close enough to do it. People that get inside you and... and... and tear you apart, and make you feel like you're never gonna recover.
I love the detail that Frank knows that Matt’s senses are enhanced but they’ve never had a conversation about it. He asks Matt if he clocked the van of cops on the other side of the building. He tosses Matt the bullet with the punisher skull on it knowing he’ll catch it and be able to feel the indentation.
the crazy thing about kastle is that they’ve set up a narrative in which karen represents to frank the idea of moving on from his overwhelming grief and giving up the constant self destructive fighting and choosing to actually live and try to heal. she’s literally THE pathway to a happy ending for him. and in order to keep him in the narrative and keep him fighting they CANNOT be in a room for longer than ten minutes bc he would cave and the plot would be over. honestly sickening.
absolutely obsessed with the dynamic between Matt and Frank it's gotta be one of my favorite character dynamics of all time. Frank kills people as a hobby and Matt has never killed in his life. they can't have a conversation without cursing each other out. they trust each other enough to hold one another as they jump off a building. they physically fight more often than not. Frank has seen Matt's bare ass. they're both in love with the same woman who respects herself too much to hook up with either one of them. Matt is a Catholic who believes every soul can be saved except for his own and Frank doesn't think either of theirs needs to be. can anybody hear me is this thing on
daredevil s2eps11 | the punisher s2eps11
i'm really intrigued by how bad frank is doing. he had the 'hipster' look going, he's taking some kind of prescription pills, now that he's shaved we can see he looks older and really worn down, he's extra impatient with matt when they talk, and his fighting style was focused way more on brutality than previous fights where we saw him being a lot more tactical and efficient. this man is straight up not having a good time without karen
frank castle be like: 🥺🥺🥺 you asked me for a favour karen 🥺🥺🥺 and i did it 🥺🥺🥺 for you 🥺🥺🥺
Okay Kastle Fam. General consensus seems to be Matt was hearing Frank's heart beating jealousy during the whole stitching scene
BUT I posit this:
He actually is hearing Karen's heart stutter as Frank groans in his self-stitching lone wolf routine.
when u see your crush and u tryna act super casual
The way that Kastle is so borderline canon to the point we don't need a kiss to make it canon
The funny thing is Karen stops Matt from attacking the bad guys, telling him to think it through because he was hurt and numbers and losing, blah blah blah. But she didn't know Frank was beaten up and kept there, and honestly I think logic would have flown out the window the moment she realized and It would have been Matt stopping HER.
sometimes you’re hit with a friendly realization that yes, life is good. you have your comfort characters and you have archive of our own. life is actually beautiful