Something Is Wrong With My Hamster

In the fish tank straight up "grisping it" and by "it", haha, well. Let's justr say. My rok.

also I want to append to this, we shouldn't necessarily assume that animals will be like humans; in scientific research you want to be careful with your preconceptions and personal biases, and in dealing with animals in person over-anthropomorphizing them can even be dangerous, for you and for them. But I think dismissing it out of hand in the other direction is just pretty ignorant given all the things we do know and all the things we know we don't, dubious from a moral perspective (if a creature looks like it's in pain, uh should not the null hypothesis be that it is in pain?), and stems from a really anthropocentric philosophy that has plagued even certain areas of biology itself (if you've read about like, human brain evolution you know what I mean) in a way that is soo frustrating and just is like, augh stop the ghost of Aristotle haunts you

Also I picked those fruit fly examples because they demonstrate ways in which insects are like us, but there's also by no means anything lesser about animals or other organisms that aren't like us either! Not everything is going to be like us and I think there's value and respect-worthiness in that too.

also there's evidence that white garden snails can distinguish numbers up to five

It's always so weird to come down from the biology heavens to see what the average person believes about animals, plants, ecosystems, just the world around them. I don't even mean things that one simply doesn't know because they've never been told or things that are confusing, I'm talking about people who genuinely do not see insects as animals. What are you saying. Every time I see a crawling or fluttering little guy I know that little guy has motivations and drive to fulfill those motivations. There are gears turning in their head! They are perceiving this world and they are drawing conclusions, they are conscious. And yet it's still a whole thing if various bugs of the world feel pain or if they are simply Instinct Machines that are Not Truly Aware of Anything At All????? Help!!!!!! How can you look at a little guy and think he is just the macroscopic animal version of a virus

Met this cool guy outside and then he broke into my house later that night

This is a robber fly known as a hanging thief so you know what he was doing in your home!! (Thieving)

oh oh speaking of fruit fly behavior, I hadn't seen it when I reblogged this post before but someone mentioned it in the tags— just last month there was a super super neat paper published describing play behavior in fruit flies! Basically they put a bunch of fruit flies in containers with food and a rotating carousel embedded in the floor (which they could walk on and off at will) and then used motion-tracking software to quantify how much time the flies spent time in different parts of the container and how they moved between them. The researchers found that while most of the flies avoided the carousel, quickly leaving after going on it, about a quarter of them would repeatedly walk onto the spinning carousel and stay there for extended durations, while spending less time visiting the food patch; in further trials, where the containers had two carousels which alternately spun and stopped every few minutes, carousel-seeking flies would often stay on one carousel until it stopped and then move to the other. (I don't think it'll embed here but see the link for a video of a fly going back and forth between the two carousels!)

The researchers interpret this as the flies having individual preferences for going on the carousel, and those who did go on it were doing so voluntarily and deliberately (as opposed to e.g. accidentally walking into it and getting trapped), seemingly just because they liked it. The really suggestive thing here is that the carousel-seeking flies would do this over food: as depicted in figure 2 of that paper, the researchers found that both the control-group flies (for whom the carousel was stationary) and the carousel-avoiding flies spent around 40% of their time visiting the food patch; in contrast, the flies who rode the carousels spent only half that time at the food patch, and instead spent 24% of the observed time riding the carousel. Obviously we don't know what emotions the flies might be feeling (the authors mention that a good line of follow-up research would be to look at how dopamine/reward pathways are involved in this behavior) but it appears that there is some kind of generally positive feeling that motivates them to do this, cuz yknow food is obviously something they need and want and yet they're choosing to do this instead. They hypothesize that this kind of “passive movement” play-like behavior observed in flies and other animals could functionally serve to ‘train’ their perceptive abilities (specifically, their sense of proprioception) by providing external sensory stimulation

It's always so weird to come down from the biology heavens to see what the average person believes about animals, plants, ecosystems, just the world around them. I don't even mean things that one simply doesn't know because they've never been told or things that are confusing, I'm talking about people who genuinely do not see insects as animals. What are you saying. Every time I see a crawling or fluttering little guy I know that little guy has motivations and drive to fulfill those motivations. There are gears turning in their head! They are perceiving this world and they are drawing conclusions, they are conscious. And yet it's still a whole thing if various bugs of the world feel pain or if they are simply Instinct Machines that are Not Truly Aware of Anything At All????? Help!!!!!! How can you look at a little guy and think he is just the macroscopic animal version of a virus

pretty princesses

these are the miserable remains of a chestnut weevil (Curculio elephas) who will never again feel the joy of a freshly drilled acorn after unspeakable atrocities were perpetrated upon her by me

this is her thirty seconds later. the atrocities that she miraculously recovered from included "being gently scooped up from a branch"

(September 1st, 2024)

I saw this one paper where they made an artificial neural network based on the actual neural architecture of the fruit fly and trained it on pictures of flies to show that 1. individual fruit flies are visually distinct 2. they are probably able to differentiate between each other visually despite their vision being terrible. And as a comparison they had a bunch of experienced fly scientists (aka “flyentists”) try to identify the same pictures of flies and they failed miserably which I thought was really funny

This ability to re-identify flies across days opens experimental possibilities, especially considering that this performance was achieved with static images (16fps yields around a thousand estimates of ID per minute, allowing high confidence in the parsimonious correct identification). This is in contrast to the human ability to re-identify flies, which at low resolutions is barely better than chance.

Clearly, all models can learn to re-identify flies to some extent, underscoring the individual-level variation in D. melanogaster. Re-identifying flies is in fact easier for DCNs than CIFAR10 (at least with centred images of flies acquired at the same distance). Even the model that rivals, in some sense, the representational performance of humans does ten times better than humans. Why humans can’t tell one fly from another is not clear. Regardless of whether it was evolutionarily beneficial to discriminate individual flies, humans do have incredible pattern detection abilities. It may simply be a lack of experience (although we attempted to address this by only using experienced Drosophila researchers as volunteers) or a more cryptic pattern-recognition ‘blind-spot’ of humans. In either case, these findings should spur new experiments to further understand the mechanisms of human vision and experience and how they fail in this case.

these CRINGE scientists FAILED to identify flies that all our models could smho 🙄😤

“Measuring sea cucumber body dimensions and weight and determining their relationship is notoriously difficult.” — Prescott, Zhou & Prasetyo 2015

“Tagging sea cucumbers is notoriously difficult because of their plastic nature and autolysis capacities.” — Gianasi, Verkaik, Hamel & Mercier 2015

“Nevertheless, marking and tracking sea cucumbers is notoriously difficult and represents a serious challenge.” — Rodríguez-Barreras, Lopéz-Morell & Sabat 2016

“Obtaining accurate but non-destructive mass and morphology measurements of holothuroids is notoriously difficult because they readily change shape and retain water in their body cavity.” — Munger, Watkins, Dunic & Côté 2023

the notoriously difficult cucumber

image by Amaury Durbano

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