Is Miraculous S6 Actually Fleshing Out The Side Cast? Everyone Say It's A Joke Rn

i want this with marinette and gabriel too but it's much harder than with adrien because the show doesn't give much to work with. alas i try to build something in a rewrite bc the protagonist and antagonist should have fun dynamics or it kills me.

marinette and gabriel: a girl and her hero. what she strives to be. a man who made his own fashion house and is a household name. she loves his work, wants to be him. gabriel sees a lot of himself in this girl his son brings around-his childhood, before he was successful. with superpowers that give access to emotions, it's hard Not to feel empathy, and there's a reason gabriel stays mostly in his house. but... shes talented. when he's not hawkmoth, all he does is necessary work, but it wouldn't hurt to let her shadow him doing things he already has to do anyways.

ladybug and hawkmoth: i hate you give me your miraculous (starting out with hawkmoth seeing her as a child who simply can be manipulated into doing what he wants. and marinette, who is used to kind adults who have her best interests in mind, is vehemently betrayed by the notion of an adult so horrible - despises him. the manipulation doesn't work, it becomes more and more vitriolic. theyre so similar, and they hate that about one another. it doesn't matter she's a child anymore; she's a brat with a weapon too powerful for her to understand, etc.)

marinette and hawkmoth: marinette despises him as always, but the power imbalance makes her incapable of doing anything. marinettes less of a fawner though. less conversation, more her considering ways to escape. meanwhile hawkmoth still has a soft spot for the fashion girl his son likes - so he isn't as horrid as he Could be.

ladybug and gabriel: gabriel is marinettes hero and ladybug is gabriels fucking worst nightmare and both of them have to tamper it down. ladybug can't hero worship, she's the hero! gabriel can't openly show any disdain -- who the fuck hates ladybug! similar to chat noir and gabriel, it's a power reversal where ladybug technically has more power over gabriel, but gabriel has the potential to use her seeking adult validation and approval to try and learn more about her. especially since marinette looks up to him. becomes more sour as marinette becomes more disillusioned with his parenting style; she would ask questions as ladybug she would never dare as marinette.

okay i will say one of the least utilized parts of ml is that the lovesquare isn't the only characters that can have multiple dynamics at once. and in fact one of my things i wanna do in a rewrite is have gabriel/hawkmoth have different dynamics with the main characters depending on persona.

for example; what is an interaction between hawkmoth and adrien agreste actually like? in a scenario where potentially hawkmoth finds out about ladybug being attached to a civilian AND having the excuse of knowing it because it's a popular model so it wouldn't out his identity, would he choose to endanger his son? or maybe would he do it himself instead of trusting an akuma, knowing he won't actually follow through with a threat to adriens life while an akuma would?

what's a dynamic between chat noir and gabriel? that's a superhero gabriel wants the miraculous from, but he can't be blatant about it, and more than that, he has no power over a superhero and no reason to dislike him. it's fascinating.

one of my fav fucked up things is the concept of adrien talking more to hawkmoth than his own father because gabriel learns that adrien is one of the most effective ways to bait ladybug. hawkmoth can read emotions, and one day he reads ladybugs enough when Adrien is in the vicinity- and woah, her emotions are so strong about him it's readable through the magical cloaking, even! he even justifies it morally because it's not like adrien is ever hurt. is it kidnapping if it's your own son? is it really hurting him if all your doing is playing chess with him on top of the eiffel tower, an unspoken threat of super powered violence enough to keep him from doing anything reckless? gabriel is spending time with his son /and/ getting the miraculous. and at the end of the day... when gabriel gets the wish, he can fix it all - so it'll be okay! :)

the ONE advantage the sentimonster adrien thing has, storytelling-wise, the one thing it has going for itself, is that it makes emilie tremendously interesting, even more than we expected. not only are both her husband and son obsessed with her, not only do they have goddamn STATUES of her in their home, but she also created her son in her image. with the same exact looks, the same delicate beauty and cat-like green eyes, the same sensitive and turbulent and emotional personality... it's deranged and narcissistic and plain weird. there is SO much that could be done here if the show plays its cards right. alas, since it's the agrestes, we'll get nothing as usual. ✌️

like im not saying anyone has to remember everything that gabriel has done but keep in mind he's done things like threaten nuclear annihilation to the entire North American continent, drowned the entirety of paris, and marinette is also aware he akumatized chat noir into literally destroying the entire world. so keeping this in mind, one might think to themselves "maybe the people of the world would like some sort of real closure and justice for these crimes against humanity." of course, if one only thinks about adriens wellbeing, it may seem like telling the world about it to be detrimental to him. but it's also important to keep in mind gabriel also did things such as: threaten to blow up the north american continent while adrien was on that continent. and keep adrien in the white cage. and the multitude of other things akumas have done targeting adrien personally - gorizilla? riposte? one might think even adrien would want some sort of closure or justice for how he's personally been treated by hawkmoth. of course, this may be terrible to find out that it's your father who didn't care about your personal or physical wellbeing, but at least a person can come to terms with how they were treated if they know all the facts.

of course marinette is a 14 year old girl who has a lot on her plate and having to navigate very hard decisions. and sometimes it seems safe to simply do nothing at all. especially with secrets like this - because you can't reverse telling people the truth, but you can always reverse a lie by coming clean later. but i do generally expect like most people with morality of any kind to think to themselves "wow. i think keeping this secret is detrimental to a lot of people and their personal growth and their capability of making autonomous informed decisions." at least one tiktoker could say "hey maybe adrien should know he's a sentimonster if nothing else so he can be aware he can be remote controlled so that he can better protect his autonomy" alas this show is for 7 year olds so no. marinette is always right. and so the shitty moral lessons of ml win yet again. i need tequila.

i can't go on tiktok and read comments. revelator has done something insane because i have seen so many comments saying what marinette is doing when it comes to lying about gabriel being hawkmoth is 100 percent correct and alya being upset about her lying is wrong. am i fucking crazy? am i out of my mind right now? or do tiktok comment sections live in an entirely different universe than me? because what do you mean it's the correct option to lie to the entire world about how the person who has terrorized them for years is actually a hero and not even tell his son that his father was a criminal. omfg does no one understand the concept of justice or closure or autonomy. even if telling the world gabriel agreste was hawkmoth might result in adriens life becoming harder, why not tell adrien and let him make ab informed decision about any of it? or do people hate letting other people other than marinette make decisions. this is actually driving me insane like i can't actually deal with reading people saying marinette is morally correct. what are we teaching people right now

don't ever remind me of miraculous ladybug it's that serious to me. I treat the writing of ml like being in the damn navy.

season 4 where instead of ladybug pushing chat noir out because of uh. er. well. shes reluctant to give him information because she's started noticing hints that he's a sentimonster and she's unsure if he's been replaced. meanwhile chat noir has no idea what's going on and why ladybug is starting to rely on other people -- after all... nothing has changed, right?

i do think the sentimonsters thing is absolutely intriguing but it doesn't seem planned at all and the fact that so many characters are sentimonsters makes it feel more contrived to me. also the fact there's no difference between people and sentimonsters. it would have been way more interesting if it had been hinted at since the beginning and became more of a hint over time to gabriels identity. like for example how fascinating would it be if chat noir had the typical "symptoms" of a sentimonster - whatever that may be - that he doesn't notice because he's lived with it forever but ladybug does through pattern recognition - and she has to figure out if this chat noir is HERS and always been a sentimonster or been replaced. and if he's always been a sentimonster, his identity itself is the clue to who hawkmoth is. it would also be a fascinating way to do a "chat noir villain arc" where gabriel finds out adrien is chat noir and instead of being a fucking dumbass and akumatizing him, he uses the ring to make chat noir a double agent and get the earrings from ladybug. ANYTHING but what they're doing. ANYTHING AT ALL!

im gonna finish my ml google doc rewrite because now that adrien is confirmed a senti i finally have closure on what to do with it. its gonna be all the changes + the outline and im gonna pin it to this blog like martin luther and that damn church door. so far i have 5 seasons planned and i have no intention of 14 so we're automatically winning.

the miraculous au in my head where chloe and marinette are actually both into fashion and their school rivalry also becomes an actual rivalry in the fashion world but marinette wins that hat competition and impresses gabriel enough that she eventually becomes his apprentice, slowly entangling marinette in gabriel’s webs and manipulation not unlike adrien, lila, and even the other rich kids such as chloe n kagami. ties marinette closer to the main conflict in her civilian form. so i dont have to see marinette sneak into the agreste mansion for the 500th time, she’d just be there. also just because i think the drama would be insane.

i get a direct message. "cal what is this april fools joke" im genuinely confused---"what april fools joke?" "t-the sideblog. its an april fools joke, right?" so i have poor timing, okay?

this blog is both me complaining and me talking about the 500 concepts miraculous ladybug proposes that makes me go insane and think about even though i think they were mistakes to include in a kids show. like there's two different shows in my head - miraculous ladybug a fun kids romp that teaches children morals, and there's a miraculous ladybug that is actually aimed towards an older (teenage) audience that is more serialized with more serious topics. right now ml is trying to do both and they suck dogshit at it.