everybody look at this
(posted with permission from flynnawoo on youtube)
Brother that gon be one toxic relationship ðŸ˜
listen i don't care if its a toxic relationship as long as
there's potential to change and develop
it's not being glorified or put in a light that would suggest it's something people should actively look for and indulge in in a relationship
while I'm not one to completely rely my argument on "oh it's fiction so you can do whatever you want with no consequences" it's important to distinguish that nobody is actually being hurt as it is in fiction.
a lot of relationships in fiction are inherently toxic but i dont think that should take away enjoyment from the media.
blue and error's relationship was inherently toxic (yes, even after the reworks, they still had a toxic relationship at some point) but they were able to still develop and change as characters
it's not that we should be like "uurrgh toxic relationships are always bad because everyone needs to be perfectly healthy" because that's just unrealistic both in fiction in real life like nobody is perfect people are human and humans can get toxic that's just how it is
Redraw #2
The meme trio is here!
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and then he's a lil menace 🩷🩷🩷🩷
Diseño de las Bad Girl's (frisk's )
Steve ( ˘͈ ᵕ ˘͈♡)
AU Stan still pretends to be Ford, but contrary to Canon,
his mother Caryn is aware of the ruse. He regularly sends her letters. Filbrick has no idea though, since he never bothered to visit his son or his grandchildren.
I have no respect for billford shippers that look down on stancest shippers.
Oh what, you’d have me believe a genetic tie to a partner is somehow worse than being with someone that stabs through your hands, forces you to swallow live spiders, and also SA’s you by having yourself forcibly strip down in public and swing your clothes over your head like a helicopter? (sorry but anyone that forcibly removes your clothes and exposes your body, even if you’re a guy/lacking breasts and it’s just your chest, is committing SA against you. They’re exposing your body against your will plain and simple. Try to write that off how you like but that’s the facts)
The logic behind this baffles me honestly.
There’s a reason Alex titled that kissing drawing as "the worst drawing in the world" and then linked to an amazon BIBLE page (yeah I know that was part of a joke well guess what he frequently uses the bible joke for shipping in general so yeah).
Because he knows it’s BAD, TOXIC, PROBLEMATIC AS YOU GUYS LIKE TO LABEL THINGS. What I see people incorrectly accuse PROSHIPPERS to REPRESENT rather than the actual representation of the LIVE AND LET LIVE CREDO OF SHIPPING.
Ever stop to consider that maybe Alex didn’t do stancest or art involving Wendy/Dipper because he simply a) didn’t like those ships, which is valid since everyone has their own tastes, and he did base some of these characters on his own family so it’s close to home for him, or b) knows how toxic and chronically online a lot of haters are? That he wanted to avoid drama for this stream that he’s trying to milk every cent out of for CHARITY? (It's ridiculous how many times he felt obligated to say "REMEMBER IT'S FOR CHARITY" when shipping came up just to try and prevent any meltdowns from uptight fans and viewers. And even then he still didn't do some because he knew the fact of it being for charity still wouldn't fly for some- because a lot of people would rather watch REAL PEOPLE SUFFER to preserve their fictional sensitivities)
Not to mention he still works with Disney (chibiverse hello), any backlash (the form of false pedo accusations or incest apologist accusations being what happens to be thrown around all willy nilly nowadays over fictional bullshit) could get him blocked not only from workling with the company ever again, but lose any input he might have over his beloved passion project and baby Gravity Falls itself?
This is a man who has said COUNTLESSLY that he doesn’t care about ships, has even encouraged people to "be weirder" and made omelet hypotheticals for how much HE DOESN’T CARE BECAUSE FICTIONAL SHIPS DON’T MATTER.
Alex Hirsch is a KING.
And it’s sad to see that so many of his loyal subsets are so bigoted and blind to ignore his own feelings in order to justify their own, or to somehow perform the mental gymnastics in order to absolve themselves of "thought crimes" so that they can feel like they aren’t bad people under the imposition of conservative purity culture.
The terms "cest" and "age" are trigger words now. If those show up in any form, pitchforks come out and roofs get burned. Companies overreact and overcompensate. He said Disney people were watching, so of course he’s gonna say and act in what is deemed an appropriate manner because even companies apparently prefer abusive relationships to ones that have a blood tie even if blood ties are wholesomely depicted.
The age old double standards.
And don’t get me started on bringing up Dipper Goes To Taco Bell. Alex and cast know of that story, they’ve made references to it in a video game and such, immortalized it. They engage with all corners of their fandom, also shown by Jason’s "saving the town" reference on stream.
Another thing, anyone notice how they laughed off the Dipper and Wendy suggestion Jason made, rather than exploded? BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE IT'S NOT THAT SERIOUS - and most likely turned them down because they know there's more drama about characters being aged up and crap so it wouldn't have mattered if they're adults now, there are people who will always see them as "kids".
Point is - If there was such a strong hate on Alex’s part about the darker side of fiction or taboos he’d do all in his power to make sure they were never mentioned again and be active against them.Â
He’s a kind, caring man that obviously likes to just get along with people, but he does put his foot down when he feels something is awful. He’s made political posts about presidents he feels are corrupt and spoken out against social injustice. You honestly think he wouldn’t speak out about those taboo ships in frank language if he thought that they shouldn’t exist and that the people who create for them are awful?
Newsflash, he would. Yes, he’d isolate a sadly small part of his fanbase, but he’s shown time and again he doesn’t care about being liked. He cares about what’s right.
And abusing others over which made up character kisses who, isn’t.
If you’re someone that mislabels proshippers too, to mean "problematic shippers", then as a billford shipper you’re one by definition. And yes, I'm including you AU billford shippers too because there is always some degree of toxicity.
Knock the hate and abuse off. People that go off about why their ship is justified and another isn't are the reason people leave fandoms and leave amazing works often unfinished, even Gen writers and artists.
It's the Stans! The Mans! The Myths! The Legends!
hello i wanna ask you something about error,geno and fresh sans.
why you stop working about them?
Mostly it felt like there was a lot of pressure I was putting on myself! I was working on like, three stories at once and it was very hard.
I'll always love my undertale OCs forever, never let that be in question! But simply I wanted to work on other projects, is all.