Submas Masterpost

Submas Masterpost

Here’s all the relevant Submas posts I’ve done or shared that aren’t shitposts, all in one place.

Edited to add: No, I don’t ship them. I am very much turned off by incest ships. Don’t bring that shit here, thanks.

The Submas Primer: a post I thought would be a lot shorter that explains who Ingo and Emmet are, what they do, and how the NYC Subway works

A Follow-Up To That Primer: in which an anon asked me about other subway systems in the United States - I discuss a bit more Submas information, as well as Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion

How Do We Know Ingo Has No Indoor Voice?: Because he doesn’t. It’s great. They’re actually both easily excitable nerds.

How Tall Are Ingo and Emmet, Really?: Well, I tried my best.

The Ingo In PL:A Reassurance Post: written by my friend and roommate, who has been helping me greatly by getting me height reference screenshots by having various Pokemon stand next to Ingo in that game

Iron Horse Girl: aka “why are these characters so important to you anyway?”

Submas Vs.: I use Ingo and Emmet’s Pokemon in other battle facilities.

Emmet Is Autistic As Fuck, Fight Me: I wrote this over a year ago now, and I ought to do a new one because really, both of them have a lot of autistic traits that I could point out. Emmet was just more obvious and so I wrote that.

Actually, They’re Both Autistic As Fuck, And I’ll Die On This Hill: an updated version of the first post to include both of the little nerds.

More will be added to this post as they’re written.

More Posts from Saltyyyymilk and Others

3 years ago

no hate but I'll admit I'm getting a lil tired/sad over all the 'ingo chooses hisui because he's built a home/he's not the person he was (blank) years ago'

just kinda an achy sad. cuz idk. I'm almost 30 myself and. maybe it's just me but living in a place for 5 years, having what could be called a life.... doesn't make it home. I've lived where I am since 2013 and I still wouldn't call it my home. yes, I have friends and a job, but my heart's not here. I miss my home state so much, the place I grew up in, the trees, the dumb lil stores... Yeah I'm sure it's changed, but if I could go back, I would.

as for age, I feel like as we get older, we change far less over time. you figure yourself out, develop your patterns. and Ingo clearly remembers his patterns unconsciously. while he will change from his time in hisui, I don't think it's as much as we assume

plus, man, when you get older time fucking SPEEDS UP. not even joking. five years is NOTHING, it will pass in the blink of an eye. I'm pretty sure my mom passed away like 4-5 years ago but it only feels like 2 years in the grand scheme

I just wish we had a lil more happy to offset the sad,

3 years ago
Collab With @modmad

collab with @modmad

3 years ago
— Hand My My Shovel, I’m Going In
— Hand My My Shovel, I’m Going In
— Hand My My Shovel, I’m Going In
— Hand My My Shovel, I’m Going In

— hand my my shovel, i’m going in

“emmet would beat up volo” is a funny concept but have you considered this infinitely more terrifying idea

3 years ago

Writing Submas? Here’s Our Local Trains.

I’ve been seeing some posts in the Submas tags that have made me think this might help some people, so here goes:

In the greater NYC metropolitan area, we have a few different rail agencies. I grew up here as a Weird Train Kid (read: undiagnosed autistic girl), so I’ve spent a fair deal of time around all of them and know them very verrrry well as a result. These are the essentials that will help you write Submas more authentically!

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A few abbreviations to be aware of before we depart:

MTA: Metropolitan Transit Authority

NJT: New Jersey Transit

LIRR: Long Island Railroad

NYC: in the context of the city, New York City - but in the context of railroads, New York Central

PRR: Pennsylvania Railroad

CNJ: Central Railroad of New Jersey

DL&W: Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad

That said, let’s get into the meat of this.

Let’s Talk MTA For A Second…

The MTA in New York City actually oversees more than the subway system. It covers buses, the subway, two car tunnels, several car bridges, the LIRR, Metro-North, and a light rail on Staten Island. For an in-depth look at the subway system, you can read my Submas primer here, where I covered it. The subway will obviously be the one element you need to be the most concerned with here (and I’m happy to answer questions on it anytime!), but it’s important to know that the LIRR and Metro-North are also under the MTA’s jurisdiction. Metro-North operates commuter rail north of NYC, with any west-of-Hudson rails being operated by NJT under contract with the MTA, and the LIRR moves people around on Long Island. The LIRR is actually the busiest commuter rail line in the United States, followed by NJT and Metro-North. We like our trains here.

Culturally, you should know that the LIRR is notorious for having what are known as “drunk trains,” which are trains filled late at night with passengers returning to the suburbs after partying in the city all night. Nobody likes being stuck on the drunk train with these people except cultural anthropologists. It apparently even made it into an episode of How I Met Your Mother.

You have two major stations in Midtown. Which one is Gear Station supposed to be?

I am fairly positive that Gear Station is an amalgamation of Penn Station and Grand Central Terminal. Architecturally from the outside, the building resembles Grand Central more, given what happened to Penn Station:

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Compare Grand Central, right down to the green roof:

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Once you get inside Gear Station, though, you notice that a lot of it is actually underground. Both Grand Central and Penn Station have significant below-ground portions, with Penn Station being entirely underground nowadays. (Those of you who have been here for a while may have seen me draw Ingo complaining about Penn Station. He’d have his reasons to, believe me.)

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The structure in the middle reminds me a lot of the information desk at Grand Central:

Writing Submas? Here’s Our Local Trains.

And the general darkness is more like Penn Station.

Writing Submas? Here’s Our Local Trains.
Writing Submas? Here’s Our Local Trains.

Penn Station once had beautiful natural light. In 1963 they stole that from us and New York has not forgiven them.

Writing Submas? Here’s Our Local Trains.

We could have had it aaaaaallllllll…

Grand Central was built by the New York Central, and Pennsylvania Station was built by the Pennsylvania Railroad. In the late 1960s both the NYC and PRR weren’t doing very well and they merged into Penn Central. We don’t talk about Penn Central.

New Jersey Transit?

Right, NJT, the bane of my existence. We’ve had a love-hate relationship for the majority of my adult life. NJT does not know this, but I do.

NJT operates commuter trains on lines once owned by railroad giants like the Erie, the DL&W, and the CNJ. Despite being the second-busiest commuter line in the entire country, New Jerseyans are frequently found complaining about them because we need to get places and they’re delayed because they saw a snowflake or something.

In all seriousness, NJT isn’t horrible and they do what they set out to do, but as a regular commuter myself I understand the complaints. It’s frustrating.

If you look at the composition of Ingo and Emmet’s team, a large portion of them can be found on the “Jersey side” of Unova (especially the Chargestone Cave area), which implies to me that they either are straight-up from New Jersey or spent frequent time in the area building their team, so they absolutely would be familiar with NJT and how to use it. I don’t usually get into headcanons in these posts because they can be very personal, but I’ve often thought it would be funny and cute if they spent time as kids looking for the remains of Penn Station in the Meadowlands, because when Penn Station was demolished for some reason a lot of the rubble was thrown into the marshlands.

As a personal note, no, I haven’t found any pieces of Penn Station yet myself. Yet.

You were a “weird train kid,” you said. Where’d you get your fix growing up?

Besides the above transit agencies, I actually went with my family to the Strasburg Rail Road a lot as a kid out in Strasburg, Pennsylvania. One of the oldest operating railroads in the United States, Strasburg runs heritage trains pulled by historic steam locomotives - it’s only a couple of hours away from where I grew up in New Jersey, so it’s not a difficult stretch to say that if the boys grew up in NJ or NYC, they’d have been able to go there as kids, too. Pennsylvania in general is teeming with heritage railways and train history (thank you, PRR and DL&W, and a lot of other long-gone railroads) so if you’re like me and you like railroad history there’s a ton of places to visit. I actually did a recent swing through the state with my dad (that Submas came with me on in spirit via plush form because I wanted to take funny photos), and in less than two weeks I’ll be on the footplate driving Strasburg #90, my first crack at driving a steam locomotive. I am either really cool or a massive nerd, you decide.

What if I have more specific questions?

Ask me! My inbox is always open and I am always SO happy to talk about train shit or go and get you photos or footage of specific stations/locations/trains/etc. I’m riding the rails underneath NYC all the time, so I’m more than happy to provide anything you might need!

5 years ago

UT ARTISTS WARNING.

-LONG TEXT POST - EVIDENCE ATTACHED- 

NOTE: This post has no intention to aggressively or negatively affect any users. It’s a warning for the artists to take the necessary measures when dealing with the following user:

@swthedragonarist16​ on Tumblr @SkeleSabiArtist on Twitter During these years, Underverse and XTale, fan-series created by me, Jael Peñaloza (a.k.a Jakei) have drawn a lot of attention in the Undertale Alternate Universe community. The motives are diverse, and I receive great amounts of support and admiration from people, who motivate me to continue with this work until the end. It hasn’t been an easy job since I’m the only one working on the animations and comics, as well as a small amount of merchandise through conventions and support from small indie businesses also formed by fans. A topic that always generates debate in this type of fandoms is the denominated “ship” or romantic pairings between original characters (OCs). sonas or fan-characters (FCs) . Some people consider it something very scandalous and silly. Others simply ignore it and let it continue, since it’s apparently not causing any kind of harm to people in real life, and artists and fanfic writers who elaborate this type of works improve their artistic abilities and can meet new friendships through the internet. Personally, I’ve never cared about people using my characters to create their own stories and playing them, their own way. I eventually learned that my fan-characters are precise of the FCs type, I’m an Undertale fan. My XTale characters aren’t original, Underverse is a crossover of other artists’ fan-characters, derived from an already existing work. Pretending they’re of my total authorship and demanding each artist or writer to follow my story’s canon or designs would be absurd and hypocritical. The magic of fandoms is to open new possibilities to explore a character or original plots more in-depth. 

I was part of the creation of the Cross X Dream ship, and even though I no longer make content of it, and I’ve cut communication with Dream’s creator, this experience helped me mature even more, and use this story for my future original projects, where besides the amount of trouble this caused to both of us, I can now develop better characters inspired by what we’ve done. I kept the right to not give my opinion about it and to let people continue making works about an alternate story that they really liked, even making a better work than mine. Despite the persistent comments or forceful demands to make said story official, I withhold my right to stay silent. After all, everyone’s free to do whatever they want with fictional characters… …As long as they don’t hurt real people. 

Sabi is a user who really admires XTale, especially the fan-character Cross!Sans. Like any other fan, she really appreciates him, either because of his backstory or his design. However, over time, her affection ended up turning into a self-centered, pretty harmful obsession, where several artists external to the creation of this AU were involved, where she disapproves of content that has nothing to do with her self-insert and “Cross x Sabi”, her ship which basically she considers “official”.

Case 1:

UT ARTISTS WARNING.

-hd screenshot

Case 2:

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- Link to full evidence and testimony from the author of the drawing.

Case 3:

Comment from an artist from another callout post on Tumblr warning people about Sabi’s behavior months ago.

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Her extreme obsession with my character ended up in constant demands of fan-arts, art-trades, and even commissions about her relationship with a fictional character. To the point of getting to scam some artists or making wait clients for long time with vague responses, or accusing them that they are bulling her, threaten them with the words “You’ll have my blood on your hands”.

Case 1:

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- Link to full evidence and testimony from the client-  - Link to full evidence and testimony from client’s friend- 

Case 2:

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- Link to the conversation between Sabi and Artist

When an artist rejects her requests, her behavior turns from friendly to pretty passive-aggressive. A more experienced artist could simply ignore her, but unfortunately, many artists in this community suffer from anxiety or depression. With a simple comment of this kind, they can be given a hard time, and consequently, they acquire hatred towards my creation due to her behavior.

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She assures she suffers from psychological issues which prevent her from properly dealing with people, but she always uses it as an excuse when being confronted, either when asking about commissions or art-trades that she never delivers, or when her attitude is questioned. 

During this last year, many testimonies from people related to Sabi have come to me, and this isn’t just some complot to ruin someone’s reputation. This situation is very serious and it’s getting out of hand, all because I didn’t take the appropriate measures about it.   

She doesn’t represent my work, nor the rest of my followers and the Undertale fandom.

This evidence can show what’s been going on, and that’s not counting the amount of stress and discomfort this is causing me as the creator of the XTale AU and Cross!Sans. Due to this, I finally decided to make this post to warn other artists about her behavior, and I also want to get her attention so she understands not only the harm she’s causing to other people in real life but also the harm she’s doing to herself over a fictional character.

3 years ago

Here’s a list.

What’s it for? yeah.

Ingo

Confirmed Canon Information

- Bad at facial expressions but good as vocal expressions (his face looks very neutral even when he sounds excited)

- Speaks very loudly, has no indoor voice

- While this is more obvious in the Japanese games, Ingo speaks in a overly polite/formal way

- Yells “BRAVO” when anything smth he finds exciting happens

- Left handed

Manga Depiction

- Appears to be easily frustrated when losing battles

- Emmet’s impulse control through brute force, will simply grab and remove Emmet when he’s being too abrasive

- Repeats the name of the trains destinations in the speaker after Emmet does the first announcement. Maybe this is just a thing trains do but it’s important to me.

- More expressive than in the games (not by a large margin)

Pokemon Masters

- Seems to have an overbearing sense of responsibility(?)

- Hisui is not the first time he’s been transported into a different universe for unexplained reasons.

- Does not seem to be aware that his face doesn’t show the emotions he’s feeling.

- Most of his conversations are about trains and rail systems.

Emmet

Confirmed Canon Information

- His face is always very expressive but he speaks in a monotone way ( he will look very excited and yet talk in a very neutral way)

- While this is more obvious in the Japanese games, Emmet speaks in a more informal way than his brother

- Gets very serious while battling

- Right handed

- Starts the majority of his sentences with “I am Emmet”

- Says “very” as “verrrry”

- Likes winning more than anything else

- Prefers double battles

Manga

- Will loudly announce he is going to eavesdrop on your conversation as he walks towards you

- This depiction of Emmet appears to generally be louder and more energetic

- Does this weird stiff walk a lot

- Mainly does the location announcements on the train speakers. Idk how you call them.

Pokemon Masters

- Really looks up to Ingo

- Prefers the rules of a double battle

- Puts a great deal of importance on safety

- Seems to have a thing with combinations; he states multiple times that he loves combinations when it comes to pokemon battles and takes great interest in the sync pairs system.

- Mentions Ingo a lot

- Considers him and Ingo as “each other’s closest rivals”

3 years ago
— Hand My My Shovel, I’m Going In
— Hand My My Shovel, I’m Going In
— Hand My My Shovel, I’m Going In
— Hand My My Shovel, I’m Going In

— hand my my shovel, i’m going in

“emmet would beat up volo” is a funny concept but have you considered this infinitely more terrifying idea

3 years ago
An edited tweet from the official Pokemon Twitter account reading "Saw a picture of Ingo and Emmet kissing one another online. Please do not do that #PokemonLegendsArceus".

Very cool of the Pokemon Company to condemn anyone who ships these two brothers together

5 years ago
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