so much mike discussion and it is so early but im once again thinking about how mike’s coming home to learn that eddie died and for him that’s very much so a “this is what happens to boys like me” moment because of how much he aspired to be like eddie and be himself and on top of that he has his conflict with lucas that they haven’t talked through so he still thinks lucas wishes they were all normal and there’s the fact that he just lost all his hope that will could return his feelings because of the push towards loving el and el is about to break up with him and to mike that means losing her entirely because he doesn’t think he matters to her outside of being her boyfriend. literally everything is telling mike that being himself is bad and trying to be someone else is bad so what’s he meant to even do at that point??? like he’s been alone emotionally for a long time but now he’s actually alone and no one is gonna care beyond him not helping with the plans and him not caring at that point and im just shdbdhxsnzjchhhsn hzjsbdkddbzjdkdbhznc mi chael
Pov- Mike after the Quarry incident can't wear that specific shirt because it freaks Dustin out.
MIKE'S FRIENDS DO NOT HATE HIM! the party all loves each other yet in so many fanfictions I see the others getting annoyed at him easily or being genuinely rude to him. the only ones with that sort of relationship are him and max the others may banter with him but not at the degree shown in so many fanworks!!!!!!
thank you omg. lucas literally encourages and laughs at him in s3 when he's like that (not out of maliciousness lmao lucas just wasn't like oh this is serious to will and also gay) and we know for a fact lucas and dustin don't get pissed off at mike in s2 like... ever!!! will gets annoyed a little bit in s3 but he was defintely worried, overwhelmed, and upset about the rain fight and because he was dealing with so much shit. that's the only time someone genuinely got pissed off with mike for a good reason (wheelclair s1 era was like... not what this applies to lmao). even in s4 when mike was in his angsty teen boy era in ep1, lucas or dustin didn't get pissed like! no one in the show hates mike at all. like no one lmfao not hopper, not jonathan, not the party, not even max. it's like people take the friendship between the party away from mike and will in fanfics and water down their bond, even in scenarios that aren't supposed to be AU's. it's just misinterpretation.
former mean girl steve who’s actually still mean, just not with his kids and family is like, so compelling, oh my god.
season one!steve as a mean girl? casually callous but largely apathetic because he never got any kick out of kicking people that were already down. he saw how his parents acted, how tommy and carol acted, and knew, intrinsically, what to say and what to do to cut down anyone. to be a total cutthroat bitch. he just never did because he felt uncomfortable doing so and never looked too closely at why.
but then jonathan punched his sense into him and he realized he didn’t want to be such an asshole that he’d be hated undoubtedly.
it takes a while to admit but steve did actually want to be an asshole, he’s a bit cruel that way. just not to people like the byers and the hendersons. he loved those people, wanted to protect them, so he’s soft for them.
the rest of hawkins tho? especially the upper echelons? they just gotta deal with an especially brutal harrington kid who made it his mission to make people’s life hell if they looked at his kids wrong. he’s king steve to them, and babysitter steve to the party.
steddie addition: eddie who only ever got to see king steve and thus concluded he’s bad news, rightfully so because steve is a bit leery with anyone who’s close to his kids. but then vecna happened and steve decided eddie is now one of his, and oh boy. the soft (and aggressively caring) side of a mean girl? it’s a critical hit to eddie.
anti-hero Steve but his superpowers are making people feel bad
but also the idea that s1 Steve wanted to be an asshole but held back because he doesn't like punching down? iconic, genius. as soon as he's knocked down the social ladder, the bitchiness goes flying out. and he didn't talk to a lot of people outside of his little circle so people assume that he must have always been an asshole. but no, plot twist; that's a new development.
Y'all ever wonder if Mike's gonna realize how important he is to Hawkins' survival when he sees how hard Nancy and them epic failed in stopping Vecna. He's usually the one besting the UD by foiling all the takeover plans with his counter planning, and the ONE TIME he goes on vacation for spring break Dustin and co can barely manage anything without it falling to pieces. They are desperately trying to get Mike on the phone line for assist.
Would Mike hear from Lucas about Max's broken Walkman cuz of Jason stepping on it, and as Lucas speaks Mike is internally thinking up how he would've easily solved it by having a failsafe (backup Walkman in case it gets broken etc). Cuz that's what he does, he's a strategist. He comes up with a Plan A to Infinity when stuck in a corner.
Mike only thinks, as of right now, that El needs him but it's actually the Party and Hawkins in general that rely on Mike's ability to connect the dots/see the bigger picture. He's really minimizing himself to being that loser who stumbled upon 'Superman' El when he's such a quick thinking leader. I mean, it should really give Mike some food for thought in how shitty things became without his presence for a boy that believes he's better off being a self-sacrifice.
it’s the way she keeps trying to be Good and do what the other version of herself wants, and one version of her reluctantly laughing while the other smashes the guitar, sitting intaking the lesson that ‘everyone will betray you’, willingly pushing through taking shots while the other encourages her. Like it really unpacks and goes into her need to Be Good And Please Those Around Her and she kinda goes along with it and does her part even though she’s clearly Not Having A Good Time and it just has me ): ): ): ):
there's something absolutely heartbreaking about taylor phrasing the feeling of losing a fundamental part of your life as a woman to an abusive man that took advantage of the age gap in the relationship as "Give me back my girlhood, it was mine first" because it just SHOWS how young she was, it's phrased as one of those things that little girls say like "Give me back my barbie, it was mine first" i don't even know how to explain this properly but that shit HURT ME
teenage taylor dressed up in vintage ball gowns and was shamed by men in her personal life for not being mature and then she stopped the ‘fairytale’ stories in her head to try and prove herself. now she’s made her way back into the fairytale for a song about coming out of a relationship you didn’t feel appreciated in and learning to appreciate yourself, childlike tendencies and all
thinking about my optometrist who was treating my eye infection and said “if it hurts, you can rinse your eye with boiled water. look at me - look at me. i want you to understand that i mean water that has been boiled and has since cooled down. not boiling water. do you understand?” like i’m so grateful for this man ensuring that I wouldn’t destroy my eyes by pouring boiling water in it, because it is an adequate assessment of my intelligence
just because alicent isn't complex in your understanding of her doesn't mean she isn't complex. all the claims i see of missing her one note, evil stepmother characterization from fire & blood are so fascinating to me, especially when the showrunners, actors, writers and directors have been so clear about the choices they've made for her in order to better expand her depth and worldview. despite that, we still have people claiming that the lack of portrayal of alicent as a clear cut villain is one that removes her "agency". do you really mean agency, or just your ability to simply hate her as a knee jerk reaction to your own bias and favorite characters in the narrative?
i really do find it so interesting when people claim they can only understand a female character's layers if she makes choices with clear intentions: purely villainous or purely good choices which then conveniently force her into one of the archetype boxes of madonna, mother, whore, bitch, etc, which are not particularly "complex" and in fact a very outdated form of storytelling most female characters suffer from. its the same shallow interpretation of a complex narrative that causes people to reduce a deeply tragic civil war between a family that results in the end of the dragons, mass death and war crimes on both sides into a narrative as simple and boring as "team green" or "team black" - rather than a commentary on the flaws of monarchy, patriarchy, etc.
just because a female character isn't making the clean cut narrative choices you want her to make to support your personal interpretations of "good" and "bad", does not mean she has had her agency or personality surrendered - but rather that you can only understand and process her as a caricature that fits into the judgements you already made about her.
I have the feeling that Mike would lose all respect for Eddie if he sees him together with Steve. He sees Eddie pathetically flirting with an oblivious Steve and pulls a face, then goes to complain to Will about why Eddie has to have a crush on Steve. Will gets nervous bc fuck Mike is homophobic? but Mike just tells him about That Night (the one before 'human anatomy?') and that Eddie can't be cool anymore when he likes Steve who lost any chances of being genuinely respected by Mike. And now that Eddie has a crush/is dating Steve, all illusions of Eddie's charm are lost forever (this might also lead to Will coming out to Mike when he realizes that he wouldn't hate him and perhaps Mike coming out and love confessions and-)
So, whenever Steddie do something in front of the Party Mike has his look of irritation on his face and Eddie thinks he misjudged Mike when he notices bc Mike might be a little homophobic? Which doesn't fit into the whole dynamic he has going with Will but who knows. So Eddie asks him (in front of everyone bc he's not above outing a homophobe to their very accepting friend group) and Mike pulls that face again and just seconds before he opens his mouth Eddie recognizes it as regret and realizes Mike Wheeler is a little piece of shit. "I just can't believe I thought you were cool once" and Will (who now that he heard the story would give a lot to have seen that firsthand) starts to laugh while Eddie fully realizes that he lost any cool points he ever had with Mike
In the beginning, Eddie is so confused bc this child used to admire him, listen to everything he had to say, worship the ground he walks on and now he's dragging him every chance he gets. When Eddie asks why Mike suddenly lost all interest in him Will whispers 'it's the Harrington effect', Mike just nods and that's the only answer he gets
Mike becomes just as snarky and annoying with Eddie as he is with everyone else. And every time Mike gives him that look that says 'you're as dumb as a rock Eddie how do you not know this' Eddie is incredibly close to strangling him but also kind of happy that Mike finally is himself around him and not the blind puppy he was before
Eddie is also reluctantly impressed (reluctant bc now he can't give Mike the satisfaction of being impressed, not when he's such a brat) with Mike's problem-solving bc we know it's Mike who usually figures everything out. At least now he knows why Mike was such a good strategist during their campaign
Steve gives him a pat on the back in a moment of despair and says that it's probably his fault. Hopper chimes in that Mike is allergic to any kind of father/authority figure and that, now that he has parent status in the Party, it's just a natural development. Eddie has a whole new crisis that he's now some kind of father figure to the kids
Today I'm here to talk about how from season one we are shown how Mike was forced to grow up and mature at a very young age given the dysfunctional dynamics of his family, the neglect he was put through and how he's been left to fence for himself as if he was an adult.
There's many scenes where Mike's attitude and behaviors make a contrast from Dustin and Lucas, even though they are exposed to the same situations. For example, when Hopper questions them and Dustin and Lucas start bickering over whether Mirkwood is a reference from the Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit, Mike is sitting in the middle trying to convince Hopper they can help as well and that they should be out there to find Will. This isn't because Dustin or Lucas don't care about Will as much as Mike does, but immediately we see Mike taking over the role of leader of the group with a much serious approach to the situation.
Where this is even more evident is at the beginning of Episode 2 when the guys bring El to Mike's basement and interact with her. Here is how that goes down:
Mike: "Is there a number we can call? For your parents?
Dustin: "Where is your hair? Do you have cancer?!"
Lucas: "Did you run away?!"
Mike: "Are you in some kind of trouble?"
Lucas: "Is that blood?" *reaches out to touch the blood*
Then Mike stops Lucas saying he's freaking El out. When things get complicated over what to do with El, Mike immediately comes up with a plan for the next day so they all stay out of trouble and can go out there the next night to go and find Will.
Now, keeping in mind that these are twelve years old we are talking about, Dustin and Lucas' reaction to El make sense with how a kid could react. A bit of curiosity, a bit of hesitance and awe, asking questions like of El has cancer because her hair is buzzed and trying to touch the blood on her clothes. Mike, however, takes the approach I would expect from an adult, immediately asking for a number to contact and if the strange girl he found in the woods is okay or in trouble. Instead of giving into his curiosity and awe like Dustin and Lucas, Mike pushes that away and gets to the point in order to help El and learn more about the situation so he can understand how he can solve it.
Then when El tries to take off her clothes we again see this contrast. Dustin and Lucas freak out and turn away, both probably embarrassed and weirded out that a girl just tried to take off her shirt in front of them. And honestly, it makes sense for Mike to feel the same way, but he still instead reaches out to El to kindly stop her and show her the bathroom where she can change. He steps up in the situation and takes control of it. Then when El tells her she doesn't want the door closed, Mike is quick to learn how to communicate with her in order to make her feel comfortable around him (like a protective figure would).
Once Dustin and Lucas leave his house, Mike shows El where she will sleep and they sit down to talk. Now, this is an interesting part of their dynamic because THIS is the first time since meeting El that Mike allows himself to behave like a kid just like Dustin and Lucas had been acting before. When Mike sees El's tattoo he drops trying to control the situation like an adult would and reaches to touch the tattoo because he is a kid and he's never seen another kid with a tattoo, it's something new that surprises him and he acts on that surprise. And then El pulls away and Mike is quick to apologize and pull back as well, and just like that he's back on seizing control of the situation and acting like the grown up between them.
The next day we see Mike also allowing himself to behave more his age around El, showing him around and making impressions for her with his toys, but El is mostly uninterested going around on her own and looking around the house. (This because, in my opinion, El from the first moment is more interested in a parental/protector type of relationship with Mike since she doesn't know what a friend is and doesn't know that type of relationship can even exist. Then El learns about what a friend is but by then Mike has been pushed into a romantic type of dynamic with El by Lucas and Nancy). And then El sees Will's picture and she reveals she knows Will and saw him, and Mike is back on being the leader, the one that makes the plans and doesn't allow himself to be surprised over small things or get distracted with toys and games when his best friend is missing.
So, yeah. Mike has always been in a rush to grow up, but during the first and second season I see it more being an unconscious process for him that comes from being neglected by his family. Then, by season three, Mike takes an active role in wanting to grow up fast and leave all the "childish" things behind in order to fill his role as El's boyfriend.
It's interesting to think how running out of time is Mike's thing in ST, and how that's linked to Mike rushing through life as if he had no seconds to waste because he is either after something or something is chasing him.
I see how El exacerbates these feelings in Mike, that also link to him wanting to pretend to be someone else that's worthy of being with El, from season one when Mike tries to lie to El about the wound on his chin because he doesn't want El to know he gets bullied at school, to Mike wearing that outfit at the airport that's a knockoff of real brands and that, we know, is not his style at all.
Now, of course I HAVE to link this to Byler. And, well, just thinking how Mike was forced to mature at a really young age, how he's pushed into thinking he should be embarrassed about the things he enjoys, about how he thinks he has to pretend to be someone he's not in order to get the "normal" everyone seems to want. And how then there's Will, the one person that tells Mike things don't have to be like that, that on this the rest of the world is wrong because yes, they can stay in Mike's basement and play games for the rest of their lives, they can keep on enjoying their favorite board game, they can make plans to retire at a young age and play Nintendo for a living. Will tries to tell Mike that it is okay if he wants those things, that it's nothing he should avoid or feel ashamed of, that they don't have to stop being kids because the world and the Upside Down keeps making them soldiers, fighting battles they should've never had to fight.
Because Will wants all of that, and Mike wants it too. But Mike knows he's not supposed to. He knows he should want something different, something like what the rest of the people want because otherwise he'll be different. And for now, it is Will the one that's okay with being different because Mike is there, and Mike makes Will feel like it's okay being different, that he shouldn't feel like a mistake at all. And I think Mike has put so much effort into not being different, that he hasn't stopped to think that maybe it could be good, until season four happens and the van scene happens.
There's a TON more of this I wanted to write about but this will do for now.
Anyhow, love Mike Wheeler and how disturbed he's on the inside.
Besties. We know Bruce's adoption streak could outshine the sun, but have we considered:
Bruce is adopted, too, and he just. Forgot to tell his kids.
It all started with Damian hiding in the attic. He's an expert fighter, yes; An expert fighter who does not want to face Cass after eating the last muffin. Gracious as she is, Cassandra had her lines.
And he had to occupy his time with something. So there he is, flipping through photo albums covered in sheets of dust that leave him frowning. Alfred is careful and strict about cleaning.
The only reason why he wouldn't polished these, he weights, is because he couldn't find them. But why would anyone hide these?
He flips through pages and pages of his grandmother, glamours and sparkling and haughty, playing around with Baba; Chocholate pudding around their mouths at Galas. Playing dress up in her closet. A younger version of his Baba chewing on a pearl necklace.
There's pictures of his grandfather, too, except, -
Except. He's evidently not nearly as pale as his wife and child.
Damian blinks. Rubs his eyes. Maybe there's a mistake? Maybe this man with a sunbeam smile and warm eyes carrying Martha over his shoulder and Baba under his arm isn't Thomas.
But no; He watches the cursive, neat writing lovingly put down below the polaroid shot, - Tommy, Martha, and Bruce, 1998. Thomas dropped Bruce after Below it, another harsh scribble responds,
Gonna drop YOU next time, Cabron - T. Wayne
Note for future self; Don't let Thomas hold Bruce. - M. Wayne
He had to run down the stairs.
"GRANDFATHER WAS NOT CAUCASIAN. "
Bruce, lifting his gaze from the game of Batnopoly (Tim thought It'd be so funny), blinks at him, " He was Colombian, if you want to get technical."
" But you don't... Baba, you're, so, uh...Flavour-proof."
" Oh, he wasn't my biological father. He adopted me after he and mama got married." Everyone roasts Dick so hard because how the hell did HE not know?
" You always whine about " Oh I'm the only one who's not adopted!" That's cause you pull shit like this you clown bus"
" Parents aren't real people you seek information about, everyone knows that, JASON!"
The batkids soon start a game of finding Bruce's bio dad.
" I have no idea who he is."
"WHAT!"
"I have one father and he's probably arm wrestling God beyond the grave. And winning."
so weird that in young royals August is called to be backup man and told that he's second in line. Like he's Wilhelm's 2nd cousin, so they share great-grandparents. What happened to the family, like so that's skipping so many people actually. All of Wilhelm's first cousins, aunts/uncles have to be dead for that to happen!! Did Kristina's parents only have her? Possible sure, but royalty has been so intense about having more than one child with the whole heir and spare(s) thing.
as a finnish person, i hate everything that has something to do with sweden, but as a homosexual, young royals is one of the greatest shows i've ever seen
If there’s one thing that this episode has proven me is that Aemond is indeed a mama’s boy
Rhaenys: Whether it's to my daughter or to someone else's, your father will remarry sooner than late. His new wife will produce new heirs, and chances are better than not that one of those will be male. And when that boy comes of age and your father has passed, the men of the realm will expect him to be heir, not you. Because that is the order of things.
Rhaenyra: When I'm Queen, I will create a new order.
Rhaenys: How I wish that could be, Rhaenyra. But the men of the realm already had their opportunity to appoint a ruling queen at the Great Council and they denied it.
Rhaenyra: They denied you, Princess Rhaenys. "The Queen Who Never Was." But they bent the knee to me and called me heir to the throne.
Rhaenys: Do you remind your father's men of that as you carry their cups? Here is the hard truth, which no one else has the heart to tell you. Men would sooner put the realm to the torch than see a woman ascend the Iron Throne. And your father is no fool.
As a history buff who's been most interested in Henry 8th and his quest for a male heir and all the inheritance messes after his death, I was real fucking excited for HOTD.
The Iron throne should go to Aegon II. By all logic it really should.
Viserys got the throne by being Jaehaerys' second son's oldest son because the man didn't want his eldest son's daughter on the throne basically. That sets a president for shit:
Throne should go to the eldest son available, not to a daughter or through a daughter
Aemma dies in childbirth because Viserys wants a male heir. He wanted that boy so much that he fucking had c-section done on Aemma with no regard for her, he just wanted the son. That son would have been his heir.
Then he names Rhaenyra heir because he doesn't want to give the throne to Daemon (me neither). Viserys names Rhaenyra heir but he doesn't make a decree or law that the oldest child should inherit the throne regardless of sex. This is an exception for Rhaenyra and Rhaenyra alone.
Back to Henry 8th whose basically only known for wanting a son. Both his daughters Mary and Elizabeth went down in the line of succession when Edward was born. Even though Edward was born from a third marriage and had older sisters, he was the heir.
It's not complitely the same situation and Westerosi politics are a little different than in our medieval/early modern period but the princible is the same.
Also in a famously and unrelentingly misogynist world like Westeros a lot of people will favous Aegon on the sole point of him being a man. No matter which one is on the throne both are in danger.
Rhaenyra on the throne:
If she herself doesn't give a shit and doesn't wish Alicent's kids any harm, someone does
Aegon and his siblings are in danger by just being Viserys' children and having a very strong claim to the throne
Someone in Rhaenyra's camp will get the idea of offing Alicent's kids in the name of Rhaenyra's claim
Also Daemon is on Rhaenyra's team and I would not trust my kids' safety in his hands, he killed his wife. I would not trust him not to kill his nephews
Aegon on the throne:
Rhaenyra will be in danger by just being alive and Viserys' child
Someone in Aegon's camp gets the same idea to kill her in order to protect Aegon's claim even though he nor Alicent would want no such thing
All about the coming war could have been prevented by A) changing the inheritance law, B) not making Rhaenyra an exception and getting a male heir by second marriage, or C) making Aegon heir when he was born. Or Aegon and Rhaenyra could have married (horrible age difference but a solution) and ruled as an equal pair.
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