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I haven't seen anyone talking about this, but I think that the orange side watching the others in the calendar is a neat little thing.

My theory is that the Orange side is only talking through Logan because he can't appear as long as Thomas has not acknowledged his existence and the contradiction he create with Logan: Janus first impersonated Patton, taking his form, voice and place in the room... and only appeared as himself after Logan asked Thomas if he wanted to learn something new about himself and spoke Janus' name. To appear Remus had to literally knock Roman unconscious and stand at his place in the room... and he started appearing after Logan tried to start a discussion about Thomas' intrusive thoughts and was repeatedly shushed by Patton Virgil and Thomas. I think they can't appear together at first because the oposite sides create a paradox in Thomas' personality which at first is hard to accept. He can be both a good, moral person (Patton) and also lie and be selfish sometime (Janus). He has a wonderful imagination (Roman) that also let him to imagine the worst possible situation (Remus). Logan represents order, logic, being calm and thinking before acting. The fact that we got a glimpse of the Orange side when Logan (and Thomas on his phone) lost his cool means to me that the Orange side is Thomas anger but also the impulsive actions he might do when he is angry. So in my opinion Logan's eyes glowing orange means that the Orange side represents anger and impulsiveness, that he is trying to come through but that he can't because Thomas has not yet accepted this part of himself and has a hard time balancing the idea that he can be logical and collected but also angry and short tempered sometimes.

Oh my gosh, you're completely right that both Janus and Remus have completed replaced other sides in the conversation before, most likely because they contradicted each other in Thomas' head. It would be reasonable to conclude one cannot act rationally and with anger at the same time. That's so cool.

Orange Side Theory: Malus

So y'all know how everyone is like “Hey, the new side is going to be Rage/Anger” and other types of shit like that. Well I was reading a fanfic were there was a new side and his name was Malice or Mal and Malice means like “Intent to do evil” and I was like “Hey, Malice could be spelled like Malus cause they kinda sound the same, what if that was the name of the new side haha” and then everything just stopped. And then I was like “Hey, I wonder if the name Malus has any sort of Greek or Roman meaning and I looked it up and…

WHAT

MALUS DOMESTICA: SCIENTIFIC NAME FOR APPLE TREE?

WHAT? Also, while looking up the word Malus it usually means something like “evil” and “apple” (Forbidden fruit?)

Also…

Anyway, it would pretty much fit with the thing that’s going on with c!Thomas right now. Him not wanting to be evil and shit. 

ALSO?? USED BY VIRGIL? POET VIRGIL? ROMAN POET VIRGIL?

Listen, I might be off my rockers and I don’t really know if anyone has like, already connected these dots as well. But I feel like I might be onto something at least. Let me know what you think and what your theories are as well! Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.

P.S I might put more shit into this theory the more I come up with it but idk. I just really like this idea.

Edit 1: OOP, TIME FOR ANOTHER ADD ON, the name would fit with all the Dark Sides names ending in us.

Edit 2: So, while looking at the theory again and looking at sites and shit my thought process was “What if the animal trait that the orange side gets is a crab because of crab apples?” (Crabs are kinda orange I guess idfk this is fucking hilarious, Also, Malus also means “Mast of a ship” Pirate crab side?)

Edit 3: Apples, they got a sweet exterior but if you get to the middle of them they got poisonous seeds. On the surface, c!Thomas is a good person, but when you get down to it, everyone has some type of darkness in them whether they like it or not. 

Edit 4: I’m back on my shit and still looking so fucking deep into this I am so sorry but it’s just so much fun to theorize, so what do crabs represent? Well, apparently according to this site https://symbolismandmetaphor.com/crab-symbolism-spirit-animal/ they represent:

Change and growth, adaptability, defensiveness, resilience, self-reliance and a journey. And is that not what c!Thomas is going through? A whole journey about change and growth. 

the minecraft movie couldnt possibly recreate even a shred of the humor found in these screenshots

OOF I was rewarching some sander sides videos and just realized how suspicious Patton looked when Thomas mentioned making a decision with a blind fold on, and it's just failing my theory about the orange side being wrath/impulsivity

I have seen some people headcanon Logan and Orange as twins. And can I say, I absolutely love that suggestion.

The thing with Logan being Logic is that he's rational, he tends to be impartial and objective. People say he lacks emotion but it's more that the majority of his decisions/actions are not emotionally motivated, like it would be for the others. He's reasoning, the difference between the factual right and wrong, how you work out semantics of things when given context. He is, above all else, well... logical.

Wrath is far from that. It's irrational, highly emotional, subjective, illogical. You don't need a reason to hate someone sometimes, you know? Sometimes you just get this gut instinct that you should despise them. Small things can build until the wrathful side of you lets loose (an example being Thomas' frustration with Nico supposedly ignoring him until he momentarily snaps). Everything Wrath encourages Thomas to do will be emotionally motivated purely by his nature.

Wrath isn't exactly the opposite of logic as such but man, would they make some pretty interesting foils for each other. Not to mention that blue and orange are complementary colours, the same way red and green are to each other.

Can we talk about Thomas' outfit in the anniversary video for a sec?

Because the first thing I thought when I saw it was WAIT I have seen that orangey jacket before

It was in LNTAO with this lovely blue (*cough* Logan's color *cough*) shirt. Ya know, the episode where Logan had his little uncharacteristic outburst and threw a paper ball at puppet Roman?

And where the lighting behind him up the stairs has a suspiciously orange cast to it?

Yep. There's also a glimpse of a very similar jacket (in addition to some other orange items) in WTIT in Thomas' room when one of Remus' contraptions is set in motion, right before Nico appears and Logan goes all orange-eyes at Remus.

And then it appears again in the anniversary video, where we get yet another teaser of the orange side in the end card. Seems like the jacket is a subtle little nod to the orange side if you ask me.

ALSO

Thomas' shirt in the anniversary video is reminiscent of the flower/skull shirt he wore in CLBG:

Possibly the skull motif in the anniversary special shirt is a hint that there is another unknown, possibly dangerous, side (aka orange) on the horizon? This would be in line with Thomas also wearing a shirt with a skull on in it in CLBG, when Janus was introduced.

The colors on the anniversary shirt also make me think that it’s meant to represent all the sides introduced so far, since it includes all their colors (red for Roman, blue for Logan and Patton, purple for Virgil, yellow for Janus, and green for Remus) but notably no orange. These sides have all been acknowledged and accepted (more or less) by Thomas and he recognizes them as an essential part of himself and his decision-making process, which corresponds with them being represented by the shirt, an item of clothing which (despite what Remus would claim) is an essential part of Thomas’ outfit.

And if the shirt represents the known sides, the jacket represents the orange side. The jacket is a part of Thomas' outfit, but it's not as essential or as important as his shirt, and it is separated from Thomas himself by a degree by his shirt, which aligns with how the orange side is currently situated; he is still a part of Thomas, but he is unknown and unaccepted, so while he still has a presence and shows up indirectly on occasion, he stands apart from both the others and Thomas.

Anywho, I think we've seen that Thomas' clothes do tend to hold some meaning (think the space shirt in the Logan-centric WTIT and the shifting floral/skull design in CLBG) and I don't think any item of clothing has ever been worn twice like the orangey jacket has, so maybe this is overanalyzing something insignificant but maybe it's not?

TL;DR: Thomas' jacket represents the orange side and shows up in connection with him several times, while Thomas' shirt represents all the other sides and his acceptance of them.

Some other metaphors/symbols I have found after watching it a dozen times.

1. The knife metaphor

Remember that moment where Logan gave c!Thomas a coloring book so he could take a break for a little bit?

Well you certainly heard Logan say something about how Thomas should 'do something less stressful like coloring so that he can let the unwanted thoughts pass him by'.

After Logan made that statement, the knife flew across the kitchen and into the living room (Or is it the living room idk-), and before c!Thomas gets obliterated, he moves his head forward to focus more on the coloring book.

This moment makes me think that the knife represents c!Thomas' unwanted thoughts, and when he moves his head forward, he basically shifted his focus to the coloring book. Thus he was able to let the thought 'pass him by'.

Literally and figuratively.

2. Orange room pog

After the whole awesome dancing, Logan decides to talk to Remus. Which totally went well. Anyway, my main focus here is the room Logan and Remus are in.

Interestingly enough, the room already has a tint of orange in it before Logan decided to talk to Remus.

Which possibly indicates that man's already frustrated because Nico still hasn't responded to him yet. The orangeness just became more obvious when Logan tried to talk to Remus.

Another one is that the orange tint became more saturated? (I couldn't find any better words) when Thomas picked up the phone.

This could just be my eyes deceiving me but my point still stands.

This reminds me of someone else's theory about how Logan and Thomas are connected in a way where Logan is more influenced by Thomas' anger because of his religious upbringing and his frustration of being ignored. Also the orange room further proves the existence of the orange side and how he can affect the others using the others anger and frustration about something.

Now that I think about it, it's pretty cool how when a side or Thomas is extremely angry at something, a tint of orange can be seen.

In Putting others first:

And in Learning New Things About Ourselves:

Im surprised I havent seen anyone talk about the orange light coming from upstairs- (Unless someone already did. But s t i l l). There could be more sights of orangeness but that's all I could find.

And that's all of em. If you have more suggestions and theories, do tell me. Im craving for m o r e .

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