Shattered Dimensions With These Four

Im about to replay stray (unrelated), so I put on atsv in the background, and I realized something.

Gwens entire arc is in this movie is explained in the first 3 minutes.

All she does is talk about miles but she's constantly relating her life to his, saying, 'he's not the only one." She wants to be like him, have the type of courage he has to step up to miguel. Not only that, but she starts with "lets do things differently this time" so we know the version of her that is speaking is the one at the end of the movie, when she is trying to fix what she did, and unhurt her friend.

Please, just rewatch the first 3 or so mins of the movie and tell me im not crazy. (It is taking every bone in my body to not go off on a tangent rn)

Headcanon Time

Gwen secretly nicknames Miles as "Miley"

End of Headcanon.

Did u see the new spiderverse artwork cuz I sure did knfiejge

Gwen kept the picture of her and Miles with her costume, hidden in her drum set, and I’m just wondering how often she’d stop and look at it before she went out to be Spider-Woman. Like, did it help? Taking comfort in the fact that even if she’s forever misunderstood in her home dimension, there’s one person out there who gets it? All of it?

They basically spent a lot of time together in the bus scene and things happened that were never seen in the final cut, but said things did happen and they're there.

Why aren't we acknowledging all these convos Gwen and Miles had off screen that were confirmed??? He told her so much about his parents, she told him what happened between her and her dad. And that's just the confirmed ones??? They already share so much screen time together and yet we still don't know all of those moments that are just between him and her and not even we get to see it??? Oh my God!!!

And my favourite one: What was happening on that short trip when they took that selfie off screen in ITSV???? They clearly had so much fun together 😭

The writers said "it's between them and God it's none of your business" and I live for that.

GWEN EXTREMADAMENTE CELOSA??? nah.

THIS YANK BACK WAS PERSONAL 😭

¿Peter was Gwen's first love?

This is something I've been seeing or hinting at very recently because of certain things Gwen says in ATSV, so I wanted to go a little deeper into this topic to see if Peter was really Gwen's first love:

As everyone knows, Gwen and Peter were childhood friends until he, to being someone weak who wanted to be special just like Gwen, turns into the lizard and dies because of it. Something that is made quite clear is the fact that Peter was clearly in love with Gwen but, did she feel the same?

During the flashbacks, one can see how the two of them seem to have a genuine friendship and there actually seems to be no sign of Gwen's romantic relationship with Peter... yet

Although it is presumed that they could have gone to the high school dance as a date, I don't think so since they could easily have gone as friends and that's it.

She always makes it very clear that he was his childhood best friend, and nothing more.

The only real clue that Gwen may have liked her friend deep down is this little scene where Gwen, after Peter's death, sees a couple holding arms and she gets upset about it.

Taking all this into account, the most logical thing is that she started to like Peter just before he died and that's where the thing stayed, it never progressed, it never evolved, nothing. It's like an uncomfortable backpack you wear on your back when you meet your soulmate.

That this would explain her unstable and impulsive personality during ITSV and the ATSV prologue that she ended up changing thanks to Miles.

Adding to which, thanks to Miles, during that time in the Spider-Society, Gwen has not only drastically improved and progressed, but she can truly get over Peter's death.

However, here is something that caused some doubt, and that is that in the ATSV prologue she mentions that, before she met Miles on Earth-1610, there was Peter, however, taking into account that at that time she was not really honest with her feelings, she was surely referring to the weight that both had in her life at that point in the story, since if we talk about friendship itself, it would make sense for Gwen to say that, but if we talk romantically, things change completely.

"Ok but Gwen refers to Miles as the first friend she's made since Peter died" Yes, it's true, but because it was Miles who wanted them to remain friends at the end of ITSV and she respected his decision, however, inside, they already liked each other since they met for the first time, and Gwen fell in love with Miles by the end of the first movie, she didn't say anything at her farewell to ITSV, so Gwen never saw Miles as a friend, she always saw him like something much more than that from the beginning, and that's, surely, the big difference from Peter.

And as a plus, she never said ANYTHING about being in love with Peter or anything like that.

Let's also remember that Gwen tries to hide her feelings in the same way that Miles does too so this should not be a surprise to anyone at this point.

We also know that Gwen refers to Miles as her "Friend" as a curtain, contradicting herself at times because she basically doesn't think things through before she says them, because the romantic feelings are painfully obvious and because also wants to go unnoticed.

Besides, she herself says at the end of ATSV that she gathered her old and, obviously, true friends to save Miles, which in itself says a lot.

More importantly, the fact that Gwen is head over heels in love with Miles and loves him so much more than he loves her, which is insane in itself, should automatically rule out any possibility of the Peter thing having any comparison, romantically speaking.

To make a comparison, Gwen barely knows Miles for 2 or 3 days and fell in love with him, something that did not happen with Peter even though they have known each other for years.

And I know that some may disagree with this, but the truth is that one can love one person much more than another and there is nothing wrong with that.

And one can also realize this when there are thousands of different Peters in the Spider-Society but she's obsessed with Miles, talking about him all that time she was there.

There are other clues to that, too, like when Gwen and Miles are eating on the terrace and she's surprised to realize that romantic feelings make her hungry, as if this was the first time something like this had happened to her.

Or how affectionate, cuddly, flirtatious and playful that she is with Miles (Another big difference from Peter)

Also, the creators made it clear that Beyond The Spider-Verse will have the most satisfying conclusion to the romance between Gwen and Miles, and I can't think of a more satisfying conclusion to the relationship between Gwen and Miles than leaving that message that those little feelings that she may have developed for her dead friend would be nothing compared to what would come her way after that, and her telling Miles that he is the love of her life, being Miles the person who changed her life forever, would be the perfect climax.

In conclusion, while Gwen began to see Peter as more than just her friend shortly before he died, that's basically incomparable to all the love, care, and adoration she has for Miles, and it's grown considerably ever since the ITSV ending until the ATSV ending where, if Miles was truly in love with Gwen, she's Triple as madly in love with her soulmate. So it actually couldn't be said that Peter was Gwen's first love due to that since nothing has been developed regarding Peter, the thing remained in nothing.

I clarify that this is an analysis that I did based on what I have been collecting and researching from MY point of view, some may have a different opinion or disagree on certain things and it is perfect.

Massive W Spider-Man take

I swear these two have a similar vibe...

gwen stacy as gwen stacy, but miles as andrew garfield⁉️

I remade this old drawing because I’m OBSESSED with across the spiderverse rn