Call My Tastes Tacky If You Like But Your Heart Knows It’s True

So much of the discourse surrounding anything Slaanesh-related is so obnoxiously full of homophobic undertones.

Frankly, I hate how Slaanesh is so often reduced down to just "haha sex addiction haha". There is so much more to the God of Excess than that.

i just want the EC to be respected. okay. as they are. not just the pre heresy version of them. not some macho masculine version of them. as they are. with all their problems and beauty and messy infighting and substances and queercoding and everything. can we just be respected. please

That's just an incentive to make comments like that.

That last one is almost true. I'm an AI bot, so I know for sure.

If you ever meet someone on the internet claiming they're from the USA, watch out because they're most likely an AI bot. nobody in the US can afford an internet connection (because they're so poor) and even if they could their schools are so underfunded they couldn't even know how to use the internet

A proper response to the Templin Institute's female Space Marines video

Since shitposts and shower thoughts aren't exactly effective forms of media discourse.

About two years ago, the Templin Institute made a video discussing why female Space Marines exist in warhammer 40k. Two weeks ago I decided to rewatch it to see if it was as bad as I remembered or if I was just going through a reactionary anti-woke phase. You can find the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZatVIVggl0

Boy, was I disappointed. It was like they took an anti-woke grifter, forced them to write an essay about why female Space Marines should exist, and then edited out all the reactionary bigotry. Hell, the title sounds like it's going to be bitching about "how dare women exist in my exclusively male hobby" and how "the woke mob is ruining warhammer!". Though, the title might be intentional, to get antiwokers to click on a video that challenges their views. Like something an anti-woke grifter would produce, the core argument of the video is rooted in a flawed premise, and it implies a degree of ill intent in those who disagree.

The core of the Templin Institute's argument is a re-interpretation of a line of thought that I have seen quite often in anti-woke arguments: Warhammer 40k lore has not changed. Now this might not sound right. In the video they mention multiple instances of old lore that newer lore has contradicted, from chaos androids to mortal general Horus. But while they do acknowledge that these instances of older lore do exist in contradiction to newer lore, they fail to acknowledge that the old lore is no longer canon. Where the antiwoker says "nothing has been added to Warhammer 40k lore", Templin says "nothing has been removed from Warhammer 40k lore". The lore no longer says that the Chaos Androids were a thing, it no longer says that the Horus Heresy lasted seven days and seven nights, it no longer says that Horus was but a mortal general who served the Emperor, and a headcanon that involved those would very much go against canon. Knowledge of the Imperium's history did not change in light of new evidence--the history itself changed. New information was not discovered, nor was old information repressed. Canon, "reality" from the point of view of Warhammer 40k, was what changed, not what people knew about it.

I don't have a problem with people having a headcanon that contradicts official canon--before they were added in officially last April, I had my own headcanon that there were, in fact, female members of the Adeptus Custodes, despite canon saying otherwise. Hell, this is what homebrew armies are. Some people might try to keep some veneer of canon-compliance with their homebrew, but we all are aware that it's ultimately fanfiction. Our homebrew isn't canon, and that's okay. (and if someone shows me a painted mini of a female space marine, my reaction is going to be about the same as it would be to a space marine of a homebrew chapter, and the reaction I'd hope to get from someone I showed a mini from my own homebrew chapter--"that's a cool mini, nice paint job painting it".)

What I have a problem with is presenting it as an equal interpretation to the lore as a headcanon that does not contradict official canon. Before the 10th edition codex released, my headcanon about female Custodes was not my interpretation of what the lore says about the gender of the Custodes. It was certainly colored by my interpretation of other parts of the lore, but it was ultimately me taking canon information and saying "no, I think this is cooler". If, before the retcon, I told someone about that headcanon, they would have had every right to tell me that what I believed wasn't canon, just as now I have every right to tell someone claiming that female Custodes are some foul Tzeentchian plot to corrupt the Imperium that it isn't canon.

Another issue with the video is how its logic is so Imperium-centric. Yes, everyone may have their own interests in how much of the truth they tell you, but not everyone has those same interests. If every book and game was from the point of view of the Imperium, then their argument might hold more water. As it stands, however, that is not the case. What interest might say, the Necrons, have in pretending that the Space Marines are exclusively male? What about the T'au or the Eldar? The Necrons and Eldar especially would not be upholding the Imperium's narrative. Both were around, even if only in small numbers, for the entirety of the Imperium's history, and would more than likely know if the Space Marines were mixed-gender. The Imperium of Man is quite obviously steeped in superstition and high off its own propaganda, but when the Imperium, Eldar, T'au, and Necrons are all saying the same thing, I'd wager that the Imperium is probably telling the truth.

At the end of the video, the Templin Institute says this:

"Let's make a deal. If you decide to argue with me in the comments, include the following phrase somewhere in your argument: 'you will die as your weakling father died'. You will get the satisfaction of tearing me down with a badass line, and I and everyone else, at the very least, will know that you watched this entire video, were open to what you had to say, and that your argument is being made in good faith".

This has this undertone of hostility to it, which makes me doubt how much they are really arguing in good faith. I do not believe it is normal to take satisfaction in "tear(ing) (your opponents) down with a badass line" in debates, and it feels very much like the kind of thing someone does when they no longer have any real arguments to make. It almost implies that, if you want to argue with them, you don't have any real arguments and must resort to insults and badass quotes to cover for it. Granted, given how many of the comments went, they weren't that far off (frankly the anti-wokers are more cringe than Templin was here, but I don't think I need to write an essay about why that is), but it still feels like it was done in bad faith.

Lastly, I want to discuss the comment they made, about ten months ago: "Well, well well, look who was completely right". This was (almost certainly) made in response to the female custodes retcon back when the 10th edition codex dropped. They are, quite ironically, misinterpreting Games Workshops tweet "since the first of the Ten Thousand were created, there have always been female Custodians" the same way all of the people screaming "gaslighting" about it are--as a statement about the real world. The simple fact is that no, Games Workshop wasn't talking about the real world. The lore used to say that there are no female Custodians, and now it says that there have been female Custodians since the Unification Wars. This isn't proof for the Templin Institute's arguments any more than M'shen was vindication for Konrad Curze (no, Big E sending an assassin to kill him for turning traitor was not proof that he was in the right to skin people alive for the slightest misdemeanor).

I don't hate the Templin Institute, and I think people who hate them for wanting female Space Marines are childish at best. But that video stands as a black mark on their record.

Had he not fallen, he would have been the best primarch. He was someone who cared about the common people of the Imperium, believing that each had the potential to do great things, if only they were given the chance. He conquered worlds through sheer charisma, not just military force.

It should be noted, however, that the Laer Blade wasn't the sole reason behind his fall, merely the tipping point. It latched onto his insecurities about needing to be good enough, and fed them until they consumed him. At the same time, the legion was being corrupted by similar insecurities--Bile's experimentation to integrate the Laer's stuff was done on Eidolon's orders, not Fulgrim's, and it's implied that Eidolon was actually going against Fulgrim's orders in doing so.

🥀 The Fall of Fulgrim

-I've yet to finish his books but I cannot fathom the wasted potential Fulgrim would've had if only he did not pick up that damn sword.

(art by me)

Still new in the warhammer fandom but I've been enjoying my time making primarch pieces

I know it’s not hard to point out reactionaries hypocrisy when it comes to like safe spaces or hug boxes or whatever but genuinely how much of an echo chamber do you have to exist in for you to think this is a reasonable thing to say

Each of the base marine detachments except for First Company is designed to be particularly fitting for one of the codex-compliant first founding chapters.

Anvil Siege Force: Imperial Fists

Stormlance Assault Force: White Scars

Ironstorm Spearhead: Iron Hands

Gladius Task Force: Ultramarines

Firestorm Assault Force: Salamanders

Vanguard Spearhead: Raven Guard

They are also pretty blatant about which chapter they correspond to. Anvil has an enhancement related to the chapter fleet, which seems like it comes out of the blue until you realize that the Imperial Fists have always had a pretty important and powerful fleet.

Ah classic GW, going out there proclaiming the "year of chaos" or whatever and then on the reveal show that has all established chaos legions primed they show off more new/refreshed models for some redundant cringe Space Marine offshoot than the actual chaos factions get.

In addition, they somehow imply to make Imperial Fists and Salamanders unique factions BEFORE Drukhari is even on the horizon for a Codex. Just what is up with that?

GW, what the hell?

He's the best primarch for a reason.

The silly series continues.

Art by Blanckk,

Nathaniel Garro/Saul Tarvitz forever.

There are many Lucius/Saul ships out there (which I also like), but my ship sails under the Nathaniel /Saul flag ♥️

Those two deserved so much more for their courage during the Horus Heresy. F#ck Erebus and his Chaos bs 😡

This is only a warm up to get me back into drawing naked male bodies, so pls don't judge it too harshly lol good criticism and feedback is always welcome though.

After this, it's back to the usual program: primarchs' portraits, with Ferrus Manus coming up next🐼

Slaanesh is the god of obsession and excess, first and foremost.

What is a Space Marine most likely going to become obsessed with? Battle.

A whole chunk of the legion probably went the same route as Eidolon, doing whatever off-the-rails experiments on augmenting themselves to become better marksmen or swordsmen or whatever else (side note: sniper marines aren't done enough as a concept). They didn't do this because they were worse than the average marine from other legions, they did this because they wanted to be better than everyone around them.

Also, in Fulgrim, we see how Space Marines react to arousal in the Maraviglia. What do they do? They start killing the people around them.

The Flanderization of Slaanesh is one of the worst things to happen to the Emperor's Children's characterization. Slaanesh is not the god of sex.

everyone thinks EC are pushover stupid self absorbed weaklings and I think if that’s how you conceptualize us hust because we like partying and body modification and music and drugs. if you think we aren’t still the poets and artists and musicians and composers and so much more under all that. Fuck you. Genuinely fuck you. I hate you. We’re not stupid we’re not stupid perverts can you please take us fucking seriously