The Angel Isn’t Noelle. It’s The Player.

the angel isn’t Noelle. It’s the player.

Firstly, the angel is a prominent figure in both undertale and deltarune. Your existence is heavily implied in both games and is pretty much canon. In deltarune it’s obvious kris is being controlled, and in undertale flowey acknowledges that his world is a videogame, and you are stated to be separate from frisk and separate from chara. Now that we’ve established the players existence, why sre they the angel? Firstly, the undertale prophecy for the angel days that when the angel returns, the underground will go empty. This could make sense in both genocide and in pacifist. This leaves three options for undertale’s angel: you, chara, and frisk. But wait! The angel is from the prophecy of the deltarune, and is seemingly far more prominent in that game. It would make sense for the angel to be a connector between undertale and deltarune, wouldn’t it? And who connects the games? You. Secondly, in deltarune, some may use the fact that noelle and dess made angel sculptures for their father at some point as evidence for her being the angel, but its lack of facial features could very well be pointing at the angel looking like anything, the anonymity of the player. Who knows, maybe that’s why the vessel doesn’t have a face. The deltarune prophecies of the angel say the three heroes will “banish the angel’s heaven”, in pther words seal away the angel and their world at the end of deltarune. And what happens at he end of a videogame? It ends, and so does your connection to it. You can no longer access the world past then. Sure, you can load a save file, but one way or another that is the last point in the timeline you will appear. This means that regardless of what happens, the player is banished at the end of deltarume, along with our world’s connection to it. Thus, the angel’s heaven is banished. The angel is also worshipped like a deity in the most popular religion of hometown, so it would stand to reason the otherworldly being with godlike powers (see: player is canon and can manipulate time and cant die) , AKA the player. My next piece of evidence is Spamton. 3 known characters thus far in deltarune are aware their world is fictional: Jevil, Seam, and Spamton. Now, Spamton wants to reach “heaven”, and in order to do this he wants the soul, the player’s connection to the game, implying heaven is reality. The further this idea, spamton seems to have once been controlled by a player like entity who “pulled strings”, etc, the connection is obvious. So, spamton wants to find this analogy for the player, who is in “heaven”, the place angels reside. Adding on to religious connection with angels, after speaking to father Alvin in hometown he tells kris this:

“Let the angel’s power light your way”whose power is controlling Kris? The player’s.

some other popular theories i’ve seen for who the angel is include Chara, Asriel, and Noelle. I will make a separate post later if i feel like it because idk i can be lazy with my counterpoints to those theories

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Questions I think to myself a lot when confronted with certain kinds of Online Posting:

Do you want a better world, or do you want revenge on those you think aren’t doing enough to improve it?

Do you want a more just world, or do you want to see bad people suffer merciless punishment?

Do you want a less oppressive world, or do you want the reins of power for yourself?

Do you want to do the right thing, or do you want to feel righteous?

2 years ago
According To The Wired Interview With Akihiro Hino The Second Layton Game Is Originally Called The Secret
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According to the wired interview with Akihiro Hino the second Layton game is originally called The Secret of Ghost Island but changed because he considered an English Gentlemen to survive on an deserted island. I also found a concept poster of Curious Village from the Layton fan book (no HQ version of the poster exists)

2 years ago

You.

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2 months ago

Class-C

The shot glass sat in front of you, innocuous in appearance.  If you couldn't smell the tang of citrus, if you didn't catch the occasional sparkle suspended in it, you might think it mere water.

In front of you, your affini friend rested her head on her hand.  She practically bled smugness, the leaves around her neck slightly fluffed as if she was preening.  You rolled your eyes, mirroring her posture for the hell of it.

"So this is your bet?  Aren't Class-C's something on the 'dont mess with' list for terrans anyway?"

Her voice was a rolling purr as she answered, "Yes.  This is different.  A heavily diluted solution of a specific strain.  No lasting effects, just the intense feeling of a Class-C dose for about two hours."

The bet was simple: You had to make it through thirty minutes without confessing your love for her, or begging to be her floret.   She thought you couldn't do it.  You thought she was full of shit.  You had plenty of xenodrugs before, of course.  Class A's and E's were fun and relaxing, but ultimately you were still in control of things.

Shrugging nonchalantly, you picked up the shot and threw it back, the sweet flavor hitting your throat and tingling slightly as it went down.  You flipped the glass face down and slammed it onto the table, then looked up at her with a satisfying smirk.  "Easy."

Her smile only widened.  "We'll see." She flipped open her tablet and pressed a timer, starting a countdown clock.  She showed you it had thirty minutes remaining, then flipped it closed.  "No using the time you have left for rallying cries.  Just you, me, and the lovely chemicals your brain is about to be swimming in.  When the alarm rings, I'll administer the counteragent."

You scoffed, leaning back in my chair.  "You didn't even wait until it had begun to kick in?  Wow, you must really be confident."

"Oh, it begins nearly immediately.  Already the drug is interacting with those neurons, mixing in with seratonin and oxytocin and a few other things besides."

You looked at her, doubtful.  "Yeah?  Then how come I don't feel any different?"

"Sweetie, you've leaned halfway across the table already.  Move any further and you're likely to crush that shot glass you slammed down so viciously earlier." She gestured at your posture, causing you to hurriedly sit back into your chair with a blush.

"Shit, I...sorry.  Got carried away." You glanced down at the shot glass, biting your lip as you realized that you *had* been rather violent with it.  You carefully flipped it back upright, wiping the outside clean with your shirt.  "Um.  Sorry."

"Dear, did you just apologize to the glas-"

"NO!" Your face was properly red now.  Oh *stars*, you had!  You had just done something that embarrassing in front of your Best Friend and what if she thought you were silly now?  Would she not want to hang out with you?  You hoped not.  You really enjoyed her compa....wait....

Frowning, you shook your head roughly, slapping your cheeks a little.  It was just the drug.  You were in control.  The drugs were doing this.  But unlike the A or E, it was more...subtle.  or rather, it was potent, but you didn't even realize it until your best friend had pointed it out.  Gosh, she's so kind...

"Um, t-thank you for helping me remember I was drugged." The words felt good to say.  You wanted her to know how much you appreciated her after all.  So you could win the bet!

...

The bet?

"Wait, what happens if I lose?" You realized you had forgotten to ask that before.  Worried, you turned to look at her.

"Well, what would you like to happen, pet~al?" You blushed, realizing it was just like her to wait until you were...compromised before asking this.  Well, jokes on her!  You're still in control.

"Nothing!  I don't want anything to happen.  No new rules, no teasing, and no domestication.  Got it?"

She nodded, sagely.  "Of course.  In that case, I take that to mean that should you win, you'll get all of those wonderful things~"

You sputtered in shock.  "I- no! I don't want to... I'm...you can't be serious."

"Awww, is something wrong?" She smirked, her eyes flashing purples and golds in a way that made your heart melt.  "All you have to do now is lose, then~ Or are you so stubborn, you can't admit that you l~o~v~e me, flower?"

"I-I...you... fucking...."  You felt the indignation mix with the heady joy of her attention, of wanting to give into her, of wanting to beg.  She was trying to goad you.  She wanted you to win now.  She had entirely turned the rules on their head. 

But she also assumed you would take her bait.  You shook your head, biting your lip.  "I...fine.  I admit it."

"Admit what?" She had begun to rise up slightly, her hands clutching the edge of the table.  She was absolutely getting off on this.  You couldn't even meet her eyes, looking away and down.

"I love you?"

"Mmmm....I don't believe you." You could hear the smile in her voice, full of wicked glee.  "Say it louder, for one.  And look me in the eyes~ and don't be afraid to put a little more emotion in it, dearie.  This is a confession, after all~"

You whimpered, managing to drag your eyes up to meet hers.  Reluctantly, you allowed the feelings you had been fighting for several minutes now to wash over you, letting them guide your words.  "I l-love you...I need you..."

"I love you...?" She trailed off, waiting for you to complete it properly.  You wanted to scream, but instead all that came out was "Miss?"

"Dear, it's just a game.  You can use the one you want to use."

"I love you, Mommy."

"And?"

"A-and I want...I need to be your floret.  I need it, please stars I need it.  I...oh gods it's...I..." The feelings crashed through you in waves.

"Go~od job, petal.  You did it."  She slid the table out of the way, stepping into a kneel in front of you.  "You said those mushy gushy feelings!"

You nodded, pleased...until you remembered what that meant.  You weren't going to get anything now.  You had just said so.  Tears sprang up, and you had to stifle a sudden sob.  "I...it's..."

She was lifting you into her arms now, cradling you closely to her chest.  "Shhhh...petal, it's alright.  You didn't lose, silly."

"I...w-what?"

She smiled at you.  "How would love for another ever be seen as losing?  You won, silly."

You won. That made sense to you now.  Especially when She said it.  You beamed up at Her, letting Her wipe the tears away.  "I won..."

"You won!  And guess what that means, dear?"

"I'm...I'm a..."

"You're Mommy's little floret now." She tapped your nose as she cooed, causing you to giggle a bit.  A wiggling little thought in your head popped up, though.

"You tricked me, Mommy!"

"Did I?  Well, you knew we affini never play fair when it comes to cuties like you.  Awfully brave of you to make a bet with me anyway, wasn't it?  Almost like you wan~ted this, darling~" she purred at you, her eyes filled with light and warmth.  You thought you couldn't possibly blush more, but it turns out you definitely could.

"I...noooooooooo!!!  I didn't...I mean....maybe?"

"Silly little flower." She picked up her tablet, turning it back on and dismissing the timer, which had paused as soon as she had closed it.  "Now, let's get you home.  We have a contract to sign~"

2 years ago

trying to pinpoint the professor layton series in any particular time and worrying over ‘historical accuracy’ is soooo silly they are deliberately anachronistic! and ridiculous! this is not a series set in the 1960s this is a series playing with period aesthetics to create timelessness. if professor layton adheres to any chronology it’s actually the 2010s and that’s just what britain is like then in the ace attorney universe

2 years ago

i was forewarned before playing too far into the original trilogy that flora keeps getting forgotten abt. so im not mad or disappointed abt the amt of flora i got. but god DAMN flora reinhold needed more proper attention in the games if they were gonna insist on bringin her up.

itd be one thing to have her show up at the end of curious village and that be that but they really try to make a point in saying shes the third party member. by unwound future she's got her own save slot and solving puzzle animation/lines and everything

but all the while the game's also constantly going oh no no no, it's the professor layton and luke hour.

which is weird bc i like the professor layton and luke hour! i like flora! i even like some of the dialogue addressing this very thing in unwound future!

but it sure feels like someone had the writers arms twisted behind their back like keeping flora involved was a government mandate

1 year ago
I Realize I Never Put Together A Post With Some Of The Magdoline Drawings That Happened Over The Past
I Realize I Never Put Together A Post With Some Of The Magdoline Drawings That Happened Over The Past
I Realize I Never Put Together A Post With Some Of The Magdoline Drawings That Happened Over The Past
I Realize I Never Put Together A Post With Some Of The Magdoline Drawings That Happened Over The Past
I Realize I Never Put Together A Post With Some Of The Magdoline Drawings That Happened Over The Past
I Realize I Never Put Together A Post With Some Of The Magdoline Drawings That Happened Over The Past

I realize I never put together a post with some of the Magdoline drawings that happened over the past couple years.

2 years ago

I started reading wandering castle (the English fan translation) and I had just assumed it was set before curious village since flora isn't even mentioned but then Luke comments on having previously rode the train during Pandora's/diabolical box and I was just like oh. okay.

2 years ago
How Many Years Has It Been?
How Many Years Has It Been?
How Many Years Has It Been?
How Many Years Has It Been?

How many years has it been?

1 year ago

"nothing is real atoms never touch each other youve never touched anything in your life" ok. well when i pet my dog he is soft and when he licks my hand it is wet and that is far more real to me than whatevers going on at an atomic level

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