Pardon My French But The Attempting To Conflate Radfems With The Political Right Is The Dumbest Fucking

Also, I got this when I tried it. The rest of the results are also pretty similar for each.

I thought this was fake or photoshopped to be misleading, so tried it myself…

What? No. Women get more economic power when they: aren't expected to stop working to have a child or if they get enough maternity leave and affordable pre-k education, when female-dominated fields aren't devalued, when women aren't told they must prioritize men and children over financial independence, etc. You know, all things we have made significant gains in over the past 50 years, but we're still not there yet. These are still the stats and a pretty common situation:

2. Yes? and it provides more bodily autonomy for women.

3. And... what does a group of individuals make up?

4. I would say that almost every political or social movement would beg to differ.

5. Women's shelters for one.

6. Just completely missed the point I guess. Maybe perpetuating the idea that people who look female act one way, and people who look male act another way (in a way that advantages males), isn't great for women or feminism?

7. Pretty simple. A patriarchy is a system that doesn't advantage males over females as a whole. A policy that I didn't mention already is abolishing porn and the sex industry by criminalizing sex buyers, and not the sex workers. Also, requiring women to be included in medical trials. And also, boycott things like makeup, which is functionally useless and just feeds off the idea that women are just meant to be pretty yet women are also not pretty already.

Patriarchy is also often perpetuated through how people are raised, aka male vs female socialization, so working to combat that would help. It's not "just vibes". It's also "don't teach your daughter that math is for men".

We used to make fun of people for saying "not all men" it was beautiful

thoughts on youthlib?

Honestly I had basically no idea about this movement but I just looked it up.

It makes some sense, like for rights to education, protecting children from child abuse, etc.

However, I don't see how it's a good idea to get rid of "ageism" towards young people since it's just a fact that children are immature and shouldn't be treated equal to adults.

How about you? (you can just send me another anon message saying "youthlib anon here" or something)

It's just a cult of guilt for women, for merely EXISTING Women are punished for what men claim are Eve's sins

I think religion is the worst thing ever invented. I know it's made just to stroke the male ego and nothing else. It always put down women, like being seen as just servants for men, seen as "filthy" and "sexual" that needs to be fully covered, and be seen as dogs that need to obey.

And I hate that it's forced onto kids that didn't asked to be a part of it. All it did for me was made me feel like shit and hate myself for not being "perfect" and "in God's image" or whatever the fuck. It made me hate my body, it made me feel really bad anxiety and paranoid as a little kid because of the idea of Hell, and because of this bad anxiety and paranoia of worrying about doing anything that might send me to hell, it basically ruined my life.

It's hard to completely disassociate from it when it was forced onto you from an extremely young age...

i don’t want to hear about ur “feminism” if u actively talk over & mock woc when we ask u to not be racist in feminist spaces. i don’t want to hear about ur “feminism” if u actively talk over & mock lesbians when we ask u not to be lesbophobic in feminist spaces. one crucial aspect to achieving female liberation is first forming female class consciousness and solidarity, and racism & lesbophobia get in the way of forming global female solidarity. yes this is still the case even when u pretend ur racism only selectively applies to men

Well,

1. Radical feminism isn't just for developed countries. Who told you that was the case?

I can agree, things have gotten better in countries with more feminist policies, but these things certainly have not been there even in "developed" countries for "more than a century". Need I remind you the fact that 50 years ago women weren't allowed to have bank accounts without a mans permission in America? Or that marital rape was only fully illegal in the US as of 1993? And dude look, abortion was made illegal again in many states, a lot of them overlap with the ones that have the most issues with teen pregnancy and child marriage (red states). This is another specific issue.

But enough about America alone. Globally, women's rights have been recently taking a turn for the worse.

You can't undo literal millennia of oppression in only 50 years, and yes attitude and perceptions around women's rights is also important to push policies. Policy doesn't come out of thin air and people generally don't protest for things they don't think they need.

2. I provided specific policies already. It's not my fault if you can't read. And boycotts or each of these polices are just examples, not the full solution. It's a lot more complex and gradual. For example, living women the right to vote also didn't get rid of the patriarchy but it did help. Telling the suffragettes they should give up protesting and that it's hopeless for women to have equal rights however, was not. How are you going to accuse us of doomerism and then delegitimize all political activism and call it useless?

3. The ideas of male and female socialization are pretty integral to radfem theory on gender. If you had doubts, then you can just ask her. No need for charades. What tells you "that person doesn't actually agree that the problem lies in socialisation" lmao?

4. That's the thing, we're against gendered socialization in general. There's not really much to be done in policy at this time, other than trying to educate people get rid of the notion that male and female brains are significantly different or that people are hard-wired as feminine vs masculine because of their brain's gender. Gender ideology/activism did push this back a bit in the scientific field.

What are your proposed solutions or specific issues you want addressed? I hear a lot of criticism from you but... no suggestions?

We used to make fun of people for saying "not all men" it was beautiful

no fr tho that's goals

Your goal should be to get weirder with age and im not kidding. Become that odd estranged extended family member that owns a whacky home wherein a powerful magical item is kept that is the catalyst for the story of a children's adventure novel protagonist

Just say misogyny if you're just like women

Making male as a default harms women by making us an other

Yeah these people don't seem like transmisogynists to me or anything

oh lmao I thought, well, hoped it was satire.

I don't know if you've ever actually talked to an MRA or not honestly.

So MRAs are usually the type to say shit like "im pro-equality and that's why im not feminist", aka these poor men you're defending or maybe even you too. They also think the whole world is a matriarchy. Yeah, turns out they don't even think women in Afghanistan are oppressed, and yes I did ask. They don't think women are or were ever oppressed in general either. They are also mostly anti-abortion and even anti-no fault divorce to basically spite women.

On the other hand, feminists, yes even the KAM radfems, don't take mens rights away. Men are just mad if we also have rights, and have ALWAYS been using the same arguments against feminists. The "feminists hate men" thing was definitely popular during 1st wave feminism.

Also, essentially all of the actual polices that they say are sexism against men, are because of traditionalists, yet... it's women, specifically feminists, that are just... driving them to insanity for saying KAM at misogynists on twitter??

But good luck with the coddling these dudes though! I'm sure these men will listen to you!

Alright this is gonna be tough for alot of ya'll to hear but leftist and progressive spaces need to be more welcoming to men especially cis het white men. The more we speak bad about men the more men will go down the alt right pipeline. And obviously that's a bad thing. If we want men to be on our side we should create a space where they can also feel included because if we don't more men will go down the alt right and alpha male pipeline