Liam Blowing Smoke Rings — Tokyo, Japan | 1994

I've been thinking about the time Noel did that interview where he said, "Liam is in love with me," and it still blows my mind how he got away with saying that without so much as an arched eyebrow from the media or general public.

My guy, there is a MASSIVE difference between saying your brother LOVES you and is IN LOVE with you. Like, Grand Canyon sized difference.

Everyone hopes their siblings love them, even just a little bit. But being in love with someone has completely different implications altogether. Being in love with someone suggests a level of romantic desire and/or sexual desire, which is not something one would usually attribute to their baby brother... unless, of course, they knew for certain that it was correct because it had been acted upon or voiced out loud before.

Which leads to the other crazy part about that statement - "he hates that he's in love with me."

If the in love bit was a sucker punch, then that last line is an upper cut and knockout. NOEL DO YOU HEAR THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH??!

And once again, no one thought to go, whoa hold on a quick second. They just rolled with it and said, yeah sure makes sense.

Why. Why didn't someone pursue that line. Why didn't anyone have the balls to say, how do you know he's in love with you? Or better yet, Why are you projecting your feelings onto your little brother?

Because that statement of "he hates that he's in love with me" couldn't be further from the truth. If we all know anything about Liam, it's that he, no matter at what point their fued was at, he was never shy to admit how much he loved Noel or how fond of his brother he was.

And here's Noel - bitter, angry and yet, still incapable of letting go of the one thing he's so bitter and angry about - his little brother. Here's Noel with his happy Stepford life: his beautiful (if slightly crazy) wife, his 2.5 kids, the dog, the white picket fence - the dream life. But no matter how well he's doing or how happy he seems, he still can't get over that last hill:

He's in love with his brother. And he hates that he's in love with him.

Joining the war on incest allegations on the side of incest allegations

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I'm....I'm aghast. I have so many feelings about these two. So first of all, I had to create a oasis timeline a few days ago to keep all the gcest things straight (Gay) and I feel like It's getting out of hand with how much absolute batshit crazy stuff they have done and continue to do.

That MV is so see through its insane. Also Noel and Liam both think the other writes exclusively about them? I keep falling deeper, lord save me. OKay but Liam singing about how Noel will always be a Gallagher brother. and "You told me we could live forever". i need to breathe ouuughh. And now they're back together, but I'm sure Noel thinks he can Just Be Brothers. I mean that is obviously going to go either horribly wrong or amazingly right. Either way I'm here for it. AND,,,, MIGHT I ADD,,,, one of the first lines of One of us is about how 16 years ago we fell apart or smth. that song came out in 2020 and ACCORDING to my Oasis timeline, nothing much happened in 2004? Which could mean that the brothers had an awful year and Liam just somehow didn't do anything crazy at Noel for 12 entire months, OR THAT he knew about the Oasis getting back together thing in 2025 (16 years after 2009 when they broke up...)(Ignore my delusions I am overdosing on The Gallaghers absurdity).

And on the topic of always being blindsided by these guys, yeah I keep finding lore on just how crazy they are. I mean I just yesterday found out about the time the band tied Liam to the ceiling and the whole time he was up there he was uncharacteristically quiet, then once they took him down all he said was "I really enjoyed that". Or Noel joking-but-really-being-worried about the cycle of incest continuing with his own kids.

With all that out of the way, I found them on ao3 by scrolling the b/b incest tag lmao. I was bored and decided to try and find some fics of one of my favorite things, brothers in love, and I kept stumbling across Liam/Noel fics. After like 10 I was like "Okay what's all this oasis business about anyway". I had no clue what they looked like and I was honestly expecting the worst (boys are gross ): -said the boy) so I googled them. God was I wrong, they're gorgeous. Then I was like fuck it, let me check tumblr. I found this Gallaghercest list of incestuous lore that lead to me researching all the events on it. As soon as I began I had to start a timeline because they do too much stuff. Also as soon as I started I was so taken aback by how many people are into it, and then immediately taken aback by how many people DONT see it for how entirely obvious the brothers are. Even if they haven't actually had sex (which they almost certainly have), they do have a really unhealthy codependent relationship that truly borders on incestuous-- and that's only the things caught on camera or in interviews.

At first i was surprised by the star shaped tambourine lore, then the loch lomond kiss, then ALL THE OTHER KISSES. Those kisses are probably on the tamer side of what they do and say, which I keep finding as I keep learning about them. I feel so lucky that I found them, but also I need to focus on other things in life. I cant even yap about them to my friends!!

Goodness gracious, sorry for the long ask. Can you tell I just spent that last week ingesting oasis content (they're all I listen to anymore) <33333

never apologise for a long ask, we're absolutely living watching this unspooling trajectory of insanity for you 😂. it's beat for beat what we went through, down to the instant archival spirit of "gotta make a timeline" lmao. have you found the gallaghercest primer and the oasis/gallagher timeline yet? both indispensible jumping off points.

re the "16 years ago" line in one of us, it's possibly a reference to an incident in 2002 when noel and his then-girlfriend (now ex-wife) sara briefly split up. noel's passport disapeared just before they went on tour, which was obviously a huge issue that caused a bunch of drama. almost immediately thereafter, noel and sara messily broke up for a few months, noel went on a bit of a bender, grew a depression beard, was photographed drunkenly riding on some hot boy's shoulders, etc. in 2018 (which is probably when one of us was written) liam claimed (via tweet) that sara was the one who stole noel's passport, causing them to break up and noel to "come crying" to liam. presumably by now you've also learned that sara and liam fucking hate each other due largely to noel-related jealousies, and that liam blames her for oasis splitting up/staying split up. since there's really nothing else Known about what that 16 years ago line might be talking about, seems quite possible it's regarding the last time noel & liam were a sara-less unit, when noel was potentially making liam some promises that ultimately didn't stick.

the tied to the ceiling thing is..... let's just say it's very near and dear to our hearts 🙃🙃🙃. for reasons.

there's just like...... no end to The Lore lmfao. as soon as you think you've hit some kind of bottom or plateau, SURPRISE, MOTHERFUCKER!!

oh and also love for you that you googled them with low expectations but ended up pleasantly surprised 😂. that was. well. not our experience it must be said. but we knuckled down and reprogrammed our brains and now we're all unibrow fetishists, god bless us everyone.

"That's a little version of me, Allan. I want you to have it."

"I-I don't really want this"

If Noel Gallagher was MY big brother....

"maybe noel is talking about love from a women's perspective?" maybe he's talking about being in love with his brother. which one is more likely? huge misogynist empathizes with a woman for the duration of a song, or guy who has always been weird about his brother is being weird about his brother?

Couldn’t help it. Too tempting