Tfw You See Some Stupid Post That Paints Medieval Peasants Eating Just Plain Grey Porridge And Acting

tfw you see some stupid post that paints medieval peasants eating just plain grey porridge and acting as if cheese, butter or meat was too exotic or expensive for them, and have to use all your inner strength to not just reblog it with an angry rant and throwing hands with people. so i will just post the angry rant here

no, medieval people did not only eat grey porridge with no herbs or spices, they had a great variety of vegetables we dont even have anymore, grains and dairy products, not to mention fruits and meats, all seasonal and changing with the time of the year. no, medieval food was not just tasteless, maybe this will surprise some of you but you can make tasty food without excessive spice use, and can use a variety of good tasting herbs. if you'd ever tried to cook some medieval recipes you would know that. medieval people needed a lot of energy for their work, if they would only eat fucking porridge all of the time they would get scurvy and die before they could even built a civilisation. they had something called 'pottage' which was called that because it was cooked in one pot. you could leave the pot on the fire and go about your day, doing stuff and come back to a cooked meal. they put in what was available that time of the year, together with grains, peas, herbs, meat etc etc. again, if you would try to make it, like i have with my reenactment friends, it can actually be really good and diverse.

dont confuse medieval peasants with poor people in victorian england. dont think that TV shows what it was really like. dont think that dirty grey dressed people covered in filth were how the people looked like.

they made use of everything. too poor to buy proper meat? buy a sheeps head and cook it. they ate nettle and other plants we consider weeds now. they foraged and made use of what they found. hell, there are medieval cook books!

most rural people had animals, they had chickens (eggs), goats (milk and dairy), cows (milk and dairy), sheep (milk and dairy) and pigs (meat machine), and after butchering they used ALL THE PARTS of the animal. you know how much meat you can get out of a pig, even the smaller medieval breeds? the answer is a lot

if you had the space you always had a vegetable garden. there are ways to make sure you have something growing there every time of the year. as i said they had a variety of vegetables we dont have anymore due to how farming evolved. you smoked pork in the chimney, stored apples in the dry places in your house, had a grain chest. people could go to the market to buy fish and meat, both fresh and dried/smoked. they had ale, beer and wine, that was not a luxury that was a staple part of their diet.

this post ended once again up being longer than i planned, but please for the love of the gods, just actually educate yourself on this stuff and dont just say stupid wrong shit, takk

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This man has won ๐Ÿ˜ˆ his freedom ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ by fighting โš”๏ธ For his life ๐Ÿชฆ I gave him no choice ๐Ÿค‘just like our gods gave us no choice ๐Ÿง but to fight for our lives ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธin the days to come โžก๏ธ you will face ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿป the Roman army ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณhis numbers 6๏ธโƒฃ are greater than ours and he has more food ๐Ÿฑ in his belly and he is better supplied ๐Ÿฒ but the Roman ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น solider fights because he is ordered to ๐Ÿชฟwe fight to reclaim what is ours ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ the ROMANS *pause* think we are barbarians ๐ŸŒญ savages ๐Ÿ• *looks at his boyfriend* perhaps some of us are ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ’‹โ€๐Ÿ‘จ *laughter* but when we engage ๐Ÿ’ on the field of battle โ˜ข๏ธ it will be in the short and certain knowledge that BRAVERY will bring is victory โœŒ๏ธ coward-ness and hesitation ๐Ÿ’จ will bring us NOTHING ๐Ÿชน but DEFEAT ๐ŸŽฒ and certain DEATH โ˜ ๏ธ WE FIGHT FOR LIFE ๐Ÿ—ฝ*Cheering* ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ WE FIGHT ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณFOR ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณCAARRRRTHAAAAGE ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ CARTHAGGEE ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ CARTHAGE ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ

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10 months ago

Other than leper king and his heirs which book would you recommend for research on Baldwin iv of Jerusalem?

All right then, buckle up for some nerdery! ๐Ÿ˜

I will preface this by saying that I am not a total expert on Baldwin and haven't done a colossal amount of research specifically on him. I could chew your ear off prattling on about the general world of the crusader kingdoms, their politics, and about Raymond III of Tripoli and Sibylla of Jerusalem in particular, but Baldwin isn't my main interest here. Also, as far as I know, Hamilton's study is the only longer academic work centred solely around Baldwin. Hence, in order to learn more about your fav and the world he lived in, I'd recommend reading a little more broadly. Being a king, he is featured (at least in some capacity) in most publications that deal with the Latin kingdoms in the latter half of the 12th century.

Other Than Leper King And His Heirs Which Book Would You Recommend For Research On Baldwin Iv Of Jerusalem?

That said, have a list:

Piers D. Mitchell: "Leprosy and the Case of King Baldwin IV of Jerusalem: Microbacterial Disease in the Crusader States of the 12th and 13th Centuries", International Journal of Leprosy, vol. 61, no. 2, 1993, pp. 283-91. Pretty self-explanatory. You can find this article on the internet; Mitchell also has a few other publications that deal with medicine in the crusader states, so you might find some additional Baldwin stuff there as well.

Elma Brenner: "Recent Perspectives on Leprosy in Medieval Western Europe", History Compass, vol. 8, no. 5, 2010, pp. 388-406. Has a little bit on Baldwin, might be useful if you want to find out more about how the disease was regarded by his contemporaries.

Helen J. Nicholson: Sybil, Queen of Jerusalem, 1186-1190. Routledge, 2022. This is a really good and really recent one that I was lucky enough to find in my uni library. Of course Sibylla-centred, but gives a good overview of the politics in Outremer and of course has passages about Baldwin in it. Also look into some of Nicholson's other publications if you're interested in the role of women in the context of crusading.

Kevin James Lewis: The Counts of Tripoli and Lebanon in the Twelfth Century: Sons of Saint Gilles. Routledge, 2017. Obviously mostly a Raymond-centric source, but it is also relatively recent and has a good chunk on Baldwin in the chapter where Lewis talks about Raymond's time as Baldwin's regent.

Joshua Prawer: Crusader Institutions. Oxford University Press, 1980. More politics to be found here, but very well put together. Prawer was an extremely prolific scholar where the history of the Latin East and the crusades was concerned, so - once again: if you're interested, look up his other works.

Jonathan Riley-Smith: The Oxford Illustrated History of the Crusades, Oxford University Press, 1997. Good overview that goes into detail about the mentality among crusaders and aspects of daily life. Again, Riley-Smith is one of the authorities in the field, so looking into his bibliography might be worth a shot.

If you're into military history, the works of Benjamin Z. Kedar, John France - or, if you want something more dated, R.C. Smail - might be of interest to you. They mostly cover general points of Frankish and Muslim warfare or the Battle of Hattin in particular (other than in Hamilton or in some of the primary sources from the crusader period, I've never come across an article on the Battle of Montgisard), but might be helpful if you want to get a feel for what life was like at the time.

Hans-Eberhard Mayer is also definitely worth a look as a scholar, even though his works are a bit older now. However, I'm not sure how much of his stuff you can find in translation - I've only read him in German.

For the physical setting of crusader-period Jerusalem and the material culture, I very heartily recommend two works written or edited by Adrian J. Boas: Jerusalem in the Time of the Crusades: Society, Landscape and Art in the Holy City under Frankish Rule (Routledge, 2001) and The Crusader World (Routledge, 2016). I consult both of these frequently for world-building in my fic writing.

If you want something on the general concept of the knight / chivalry, Maurice Keen's Chivalry (Yale University Press, 2005) might be a good start. For a detailed analysis of medieval courtly culture, I recommend Joachim Bumke's Courtly Culture: Literature and Society in the High Middle Ages (2000, English translation by Thomas Dunlap). That thing was invaluable when I was writing my BA thesis. And if you'd like to know more about the literary life of the crusaders, there is a recent publication called Literature of the Crusades (Cambridge University Press, 2019) edited by Simon Parsons and Linda M. Paterson that I also found rather good.

For fashion: The various Osprey Military History books are a good choice if you want visual representations of knightly dress. There's also a collection of essays called Encountering Medieval Textiles and Dress: Objects, Texts, Images (Palgrave Macmillan, 2002) edited by Dรฉsirรฉe Koslin and Janet Snyder, which is one of the better ones I've found, as most books about medieval fashion focus mostly on later centuries. This one might be a bit hard to get through, though, if you don't have some kind of background knowledge about medieval texts or architecture.

If you want something less strictly academic and more in the vein of popular history, you might want to try James Reston's Warriors of God (2002) or the much more dated but rather fanboy-ish The Crusades: A History (also sometimes titled The Dream and The Tomb) by Robert Payne, which is very pro-Baldwin.

Other than that, I'll link you an older post about fictional depictions of Baldwin and other assorted good bois and girls from KoH. I hope this will scratch the Baldwin itch for you!

And: If anyone has more suggestions, of course do feel free to add them!

11 months ago
The Siege Of Jerusalem In 1099.

The Siege of Jerusalem in 1099.

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โ€œThe general approach to the treatment of those with leprosy complex disease in the crusader period was by modification of diet, bathing in hot springs, the use of drugs, bloodletting, avoidance of sexual activity and segregation in leprosaria.โ€ (Mitchell, in Hamilton, pg. 254)


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Omg my cat is named Joey too! He's not a bastard, but he's kinda dumb. He's a tuxedo with matching black spots on his front paws, and he scratches at the fridge and washing machine like he wants to be let in lol

my cat does that too! although its the fridge, once its open he wont let anyone close it because he just likes to look around ig??

also its such a coincidence two people now have cats the same name as me ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

Omg My Cat Is Named Joey Too! He's Not A Bastard, But He's Kinda Dumb. He's A Tuxedo With Matching Black

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