"TILL IS ALIVE!" the people say, "Do you really think that?"
Vivinos and Qmeng say
Till is in color with Mizi and Luka while Ivan, Sua, and Hyuna are all in black and white. Okay!
VIVINOS WHEN I CATCH YOU QMENG
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN SCHOOL. HYULUKA WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MARRIED. HYUNWOO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALIVE. THEY MAKE ME SICK
Where is the "we CAN live."
Ivan: "I can't live without you, but you can live without me."
Hyuna: "I can live without you, but you can't live without me."
Sua: "Neither of us could live without each other, but it was better for both of us that it was me."
I want "Make me your God I can give you everything" to become "Please be my God, for you I'll do anything" if Ivan ever had his own version of Ruler of my Heart And it could have looked like:
"My savior, beautiful star Please be my god, for you I'll do anything When our darknesses collide (Let me bear it all for you)" i'm normal.
I love this official comic, but what really gets me—aside from the fact that young Ivan is incredibly wild as always (damn, I love him and want to dissect his brain)—is that in this scene, I don’t even think Ivan is deliberately teasing or mocking Till. It feels like he’s just making an observation, but it comes across as brutally honest. After all, Ivan doesn’t really grasp social norms or emotions. He has to watch other kids to figure out how to act (or at least how he interprets things). So maybe Ivan was just saying something like, “I mean, yeah, you don’t have any friend, so by your definition, you’re a loser, right?” I guess for Ivan, it probably doesn’t even cross his mind that Till might feel any kind of affection for him, even just as a friend, right? But Ivan is so often wrong about Till’s emotions—Till actually cares about Ivan deeply. There’s this deep love-hate attachment there, but it’s still a deep attachment. Ivan just doesn’t understand that and assumes he’s unloved - Till don't love him - but that's not true. Similarly, Till doesn’t fully grasp the intense and deep affection and love Ivan has for him either. Naturally, that harsh observation hits Till hard. Till feels disappointed and hurt. Not necessarily because Ivan called him a “loser,” but more because... he’s not completely friendless. Ivan has been his friend forever—his first friend, i think. So of course, Till feels hurt and probably thinks, “But you’re my friend?? Why are you rejecting me again?”
And under the weight of his emotions, he impulsively hits Ivan before storming off. Ivan looks surprised, maybe confused, as if he doesn’t understand why Till reacted that way.
Really, they’re such a mess, and their miscommunication only makes everything worse.
Some Alien Stage stickers I drew for an upcoming event I’m going to be selling at
I'm sorry, I just really need to get this thought out, but what one of the reasons why I am so affected by Ivan's death is the underlying emotions behind it. It's been constantly shown throughout the narrative that Ivan was infatuated with Till, but the nature of their relationship was that Till had never noticed him.
I believe that Ivan was fully aware of Till's feelings for Mizi (mainly due to the comet scene in Round 3, where Till rejects the chance of freedom) and thus, he resigned himself to gaining the barest hints of Till's attention, even if it was negative, because he knew that he couldn't have anything more. He was content with what he could get and still chose to look after Till in the ways that he believed truly matter to him (freeing him from his bonds whenever he got the chance to).
Considering their background, it's likely that none of them were exposed to the concept of love and are now just relying on their own interpretation. Thus, it was probably hard for them to ever consider letting go of the ones they love because their own emotions were probably one of the few things that they could claim for themselves since they didn't have any anatomy over their own lives. Ivan was constantly reacting after Till's own actions (such as fighting back after Till punched him when they were younger or repeating the cheer up mantra), so when he noticed that Till was no longer singing he decided to take action that would keep Till from dying. He chose to sacrifice himself so that he wouldn't be confronted with Till's death.
Because, in the end, Ivan was always content with not receiving Till's afections as long as he could be around him in some other way. He crazed to have Till gaze upon him, but he could survive on his presence alone. If Till had died before him, Ivan would've lost a major part of himself. The aliens would've taken away the final thing that he had for himself. He would've died either way. Whether physically or spiritually. At least through his sacrifice, he was able to go out without having to witness the final downfall of the one he cares about the most.
oooh im not the anon from last ask but id loveeee a stamp version plz^^!!!
─ ivantill stamps for anon! 𝜗𝜚 ࣪˖ ִplease credit if using!
─ hope these are alright! extra plain gifs under the cut :)
hellooo!! is it ok to ask for gifs? i love the ivantill stamps you made but id love the kissing scene ♡ please and thank you!! its totes okay if not
─ absolutely! I hope you like these! not sure if you wanted just plain gifs or stamps, let me know if you’d like stamp versions!
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[Foaming at the mouth] rainbow Ivantill stamps……… please……. [collapses on the ground]
a shipment of ivantills for you, good sir 🫡
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I HAD ZEROOOO BUSINESS RE WATCHING THIS FOR THE 10TH TIME
Forgot to post this here ToT
wiege?? What’s that hahahahha
Today. 25th October. Is. The. WORST FUCKING DAY IN MY LIFE. In a blink gone went my hopes for this final. I don't have anymore tears I swear.
My family is actually asking me why I'm crying all my tears after watching a 3 minutes video....
Me: YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THE PAIN IM GOING THROUGH
Okay so obviously spoilers, don't click Keep Reading if you haven't watched Round 6.
God fuck it's so fucking beautiful, where do I start?
I don't even know what is going on with those rapid shots of what I assume is some form of experiment that Till was involved in. I have no clue what the goal was or if it succeeded but somehow (for no real reason other than that one image of Luka standing behind Till ominously) I feel that Luka is involved with it.
Was this an attempt by Heperu's (Luka's guardian) rival to make a human capable of going up against Luka? Till being the youngest and Luka being the oldest also means that Till's guardian could have caught on to what Heperu was planning to do with Luka and then start experimenting on humans shortly after and it would still somewhat line up with the timeline.
But I'm getting into conspiracy territory, back to suffering!!
Allow me, to the tips of your fingers
Allow me, to the ends of your feet
Dissolve me in your gaze
I don't want to let you go
Oh this hurts. Seeing him look so defeated and exhausted, you can tell that even though to the public it's not certain whether Mizi died or not it doesn't matter to him. Because she's still gone away from his world, where he is unable to reach her. He wants to dissolve and die but he also doesn't want to let her go if there is even a sliver of hope that she lives.
Please, leave me scars
Please, hurt me so that
Not a single drop of me remains
Let me drown in you
The footage that plays to these lyrics really show how defeated he is. He refuses to sing, his passion for the art completely dead and buried. And (his guardian I assume) when someone shoves the fact that Mizi is gone in his face he lashes out and punches one of the aliens near him.
Until these falling stars
Are buried in the blur of time
However his heart isn't entirely in it and is quickly apprehended.
He is beyond exhausted and doesn't even protest or put up a fight while (the same alien he punched btw) another alien runs their fingers through his hair.
On your icy lips
Read my soul
Yes, my soul
He hopes that even if Mizi is dead that her spirit watches over him, seeing his soul and by extension, Him, for all that he is. Every thought and breath until he falls asleep is for Mizi.
But didn't we already know this is how he'd be like? Time for something juicier~
Even if your cold words
Carve scars beneath my eyes
May they linger on your tongue
You can break me apart
God this is heart shattering. Even if Till doesn't care for him, even if Till throws hurtful words his way, Ivan will still lie awake at night, cherishing what sliver of attention he is given. It doesn't matter if Till hates him, because as long as he is on Till's mind Ivan is happy. He is entirely in Till's hands, capable of being build up or torn down depending on how much (or how little) he is perceived by him.
Notice my pain
And mend me right now
To quiet my fears
I'll drown in you
He wants so deeply to be seen by Till, noticed. Till who doesn't let anything hold him down and always picks himself back up became a pillar of hope and strength to Ivan. It didn't matter how or in what context he gets to be seen, so he went out of his way to provoke him just to get Till to look at him even for a moment.
This was mentioned a while back on VIVINOS Patreon but the entire incident where Mizi and Till got attacked by that hound monster was orchestrated by him. I feel like there is two possible reasons for this depending on when in the timeline this takes place.
Either he wanted to test Till's resolve in hopes of being proven wrong about his courage (after all your hopes can't be dashed on the rocks, if you never had hopes to begin with) only for his obsession to end up growing even stronger than before.
Or he tried to let Till get roughed up enough that he'd be transferred (solitary confinement? emergency room?) somewhere else away from the others at Anakt, so they could escape together.
But we all know how that turned out.
Either way what Ivan wants isn't freedom, he's long since given up on that. There's no point in his freedom if the person that inspired him to yearn for it isn't by his side. He needs Till there, his very presence to reassure him that no matter what Till won't falter. But he failed to take account of the one thing that weakens Till's resolve.
Mizi.
Mizi is to Till what Till is to Ivan. And so without Mizi in his world Till crumbles. Since Till will only go where Mizi is and Mizi already gave away her heart to someone else, it's impossible for Ivan to be free while keeping Till in his world.
And so he follows him, resigning himself to a life without freedom.
Sick of these nights to come
To be engulfed in silence
But the distance between them is killing him, and each and every day they come closer to their inevitable doom.
It doesn't matter if they believe the lie the aliens told them, that if they die singing they will be blessed. Because what is the point in that? How can going somewhere far away from the people they love be a blessing?
In your gaze where I am seen
Consume me
Yes, me
His desires mirror Till's. He wants his soul to be seen by him, recognized for his undying love for him. He wants Till to see that he can give him all that Till yearns for in Mizi and more.
To this everlasting melody
Face to face we dance
And yet Till still refuses to look Ivan in the eyes.
Things get a little unclear but since they aren't shown singing here and there's no flashback to accompany the lyrics, we can assume that at this moment Till most likely gave up on singing.
With our story
Lost in forever's embrace
I'm not sure if Ivan intended this from the start or if it's a decision he made then and there but one thing is certain. If Till stops singing then that would mean he forfeits, he'll lose. Till has never once given up. Even when he went back for Mizi that night, he never intended to leave her in the first place. But now without her he crumbles.
And Ivan can't let that happen, not like this.
Moral grey area aside, this scene is so deeply moving to me
And I don't say that in a romantic context, absolutely not. This is something much deeper than just love. This is the culmination of everything they've been through, all those moments lead up to this.
Because this isn't a kiss.
This is Ivan throwing his life away for Till.
Till was going to loose, the only thing that could overturn that is if his opponent attacks him. The kiss was to distract Till and keep him from catching up to what Ivan was planning.
Just look at the contrast between their first and second kiss. As soon as the score board shows Till is in the lead, he gives him a gentle peck on the lips. The contrast is stark and full of meaning. This was the genuine kiss, hidden behind a smokescreen of aggressive bravado created from the previous one.
And it worked. Till was completely convinced that Ivan's intentions was to kill him, and he was fully intent on letting him.
I know a lot of people doubted his intentions. Because he didn't let go of Till's neck the minute he saw their scores, a lot of people assume that this was Ivan trying to drag Till down with him.
But the minute he coughed up blood what does he do?
He smiles.
and let's Till go.
He's only human. He might know logically that Till has won the match. But emotionally he refuses to let go until he is certain.
Until he knows for a fact that he is the one bleeding and dying he'll keep up his charade.
And then.
And only then.
Till truly sees Ivan.
As he dissolves in his gaze.
gonna cope so hard that there's still a chance for Till to be saved and that there'll be a season 2
the song was a banger at least
BLACK SORROW !1!1!1!1!
I couldn’t draw Ivan’s face, so I just crossed it out.....