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the binary bastards really pissed me the fuck off in part 2. it was more so just demetri loser ass then birdshit climbed up there with him.. with the weird ass judging towards kenny.

demetri should’ve NEVER went to the sekai taikai bro he’s so ass, cheated on his girlfriend, now he’s girlfriendless, bad at karate, annoying.. PICK A STRUGGLE DEMETRI.

birdshit and that annoying ass mohawk too, i could never take his dumb ass seriously with that. only good thing fauxhawk did was tell d*metri to stfu in that locker room AND accidentally expose demetri loser ass for cheating.

Hey, I’m here with another opportunity that the Cobra Kai writers missed entirely. TWO, actually.

Numero Uno: Having Robby have some repressed envy towards Eli in Season 4. I mean, Robby hurts one person, makes one huge mistake, and his entire life goes down the drain. But Hawk becomes an absolute monster, hurting everybody and committing multiple crimes over the course of several months, but after a simple sowwy, he gets off without barely a slap on the wrist. Then, have Kreese notice this envy and use it to push Robby towards the decision of defeathering Hawk.

Numéro Deux: Having Kenny have a bit of animosity and distrust towards Kenny in Season 6, without Demetri having to influence that. Kenny’s story is super similar to Hawk’s, which I once thought should be reason to have them have a sort of mentor-mentee relationship, but I think this is more interesting. Because of the similarities, some of the guilt and self-loathing Hawk felt towards himself for his own actions kind of bubbles up and directs itself towards Kenny for a few weeks.

Am I saying I’m a better writer than the people who wrote Cobra Kai? No. Am I saying that if I did write the show this would be in it? Hell yes.

When Kenthony is brought up, a lot of people say that Anthony fell first and Kenny fell harder, but I think it's WAY funnier if Kenny falls first and Anthony falls harder.

Kenny just starts thinking about Anthony a little too much, realizing he feels pretty good when they're together and-

Then the realization hits him like a sniper round and he spends the next three days in the fetal position coping with the fact that he caught feelings for Anthony fucking Larusso.

He's not even surprised that he's queer, he's just mad that it was Lapusso that made him realize that.

And then with Anthony, he starts catching feelings one day when he notices Kenny acting a little bit flustered around him and he's kind of like, "Aww that's kind of cute" and then his entire world just fucking SHATTERS and he spends the next FIVE days in the fetal position coping with the fact that he caught feelings for Kenny goddamn Payne.

Every Cobra Kai Character's Signature Weapon

A few CK characters have weapons they're associated with because they use them the most, Sam has the bo staff, Tory has nunchucks (and a katana that one time), Chozen has sais, Terry has a katana, etc etc. I was wondering, what if other characters had signature weapons? I decided to try and base them off of their personalities and fighting styles as I made my guesses. Without further ado, here we go:

Miguel - Miguel is generally one of the more balanced fighters in the game, leaning more towards offense than defense in a straight-forward, fast-paced style, so if I was to give him a weapon, it would probably be daggers or escrima sticks. Daggers would give him the quick, aggressive offense while also allowing a good bit of strategy and countering, while the escrima sticks have basically the same perks with slightly less damage, but more defense.

Robby - Robby has possibly the most balanced style in the series, with equal parts offense and defense, so a weapon that matches that is pretty easy to find. I think Robby would do amazingly with tonfa, it provides an amazing defense while also enhancing Robby's punches with the part of the stick above the handle. Tonfa in general are underrated weapons honestly.

Demetri - Demetri's almost pure defense, but what a lot of people don't seem to notice is his range. Being as tall and lanky as he is allows him to beat the shit out of you from slightly longer away than the rest of his peers, so a good weapon to reflect that would be a three-section-staff. It'll allow him to block and keep you away until he needs to counter, lock you in, and wail on you.

Hawk - Eli's a pretty offensive fighter, same as Miguel, but what I took into account for this is that he's kind of just inescapable. His fighting style involves running down his opponent, a complete rushdown, so I think a nice weapon for him would be a rope dart. He can swing it around ruthlessly with powerful speed, or use it to yank your ass all the way across the field to him.

Devon - Devon's fighting style, like Hawk's, revolves around offense, but she's also quite quick, so I think a decent weapon for her would be a wakizashi, allowing her to do good damage fast. Honestly, her fighting style isn't anything new so it wasn't easy to give her a unique weapon.

Kenny - Kenny's fighting style, however, is interesting because it's almost entirely composed of punches and arm-based moves. This kid is giving out haymakers like they're jolly ranchers in a playground. So I decided to give him a singular metal gauntlet. Yes, just one, he doesn't need two. This will give him a good edge to his punches while leaving a free flexible hand for grabs and such.

Now, I don't think the senseis would willingly use weapons, but if they were to, Johnny would use an axe or a tomahawk and Daniel would also use tonfa.

You guys ever think Kenny has abandonment and/or daddy issues?

I mean, from what we’ve seen, the boy is alone in his house most of the time because his mom works and his dad is off at sea. So like, is it a far stretch to say that maybe he’s internalized that in some way?

Idk, maybe I’m reading too deep into it, I just want to give Kenny something to make him more interesting. Anthony’s depth is implied but Kenny’s is just nonexistent.

Cobra Kai Christmas special except there’s no karate, it’s just Miguel and Kenny clamoring to find Robby a Christmas present because they have no idea what he would want for Christmas

Robby: Just let me take care of Kenny's training, Sensei Kreese, he'll be my responsibility.

Kreese: ...alright, but no monkey business.

Five Days Later

Robby: And then swing, yuh- Kenny: And then swing, yuh- Robby and Kenny: And then swing, yuh, AND THEN SWING YUUUUUUU-

I think Anthony also counts in this. Kenny could've easily just made his revenge about exposing Anthony for the bully he was or something, but he decided to give Anthony a year of pain. Talk about obsession.

Terry also specifically took a liking to Kenny without knowing about his history with Anthony. I think he can just sense it, you know?

Kwon also approached Sam unwarranted that one time. He was drunk, but people are the most honest when drunk.

I think it gets stronger the more a LaRusso ages.

Terry to Axel, "Only one of us is allowed to be obsessed with a LaRusso, and as your elder that's me."

lol

Robby Season 4-5 rewrite

I'm honestly so peeved that they didn't let Robby win a tournament at least once. In season 4, Miguel was going to crack his hip anyways, so Robby should've won that fight with Hawk. And then have Sam win for Miyagi-do.

I'm mainly saying this because Hawk had been pissing me off. He's gotten away with being a bully, and was still a bully even when he was with Miyagi-do. He saw Kenny backing away from the 2 boys at the movie night (forgot their names), and still assumed Kenny was up to something. He still went out of way to try to intimidate Kenny. I was so satisfied when Kenny gave him the quicksilver method.

Sorry, I'm getting off track. Robby should've won at least once, and in his match with Hawk. Even though it's cliche, it would've been a fun little 'balance' thing. Robby and Sam, once lovers, are on opposite sides which. The tournament ends in a tie.

And then have him discover it was rigged. Afterwards, Robby remains in Cobra Kai so that he can watch over Kenny, but Silver can smell that Robby is becoming disillusioned. This not only puts Robby on thinner ice, but sets up some interesting dialogue between him and Silver. Maybe also Daniel. Robby was Miyagi-do first, so it's easier for him to break out of control.

Robby tries to juggle his home life with his Cobra Kai life. Accepting Miguel as his stepbrother, but must deal with the constant questioning of his fellow Cobras. "You two are cool now?"

Tory can still do her John Kreese side quest depending on whether Robby tells her about Terry. Knowing how loyal she is to Cobra Kai, and how far she's willing to go, there's no telling if she'll be on his side.

Kenny was my self insert, and I smiled when Mike complimented Kenny after he caught the chicken. Missed opportunity to have Mike be his new mentor figure, especially with the Terry Silver connection.

If they do end up doing a spin off of Cobra Kai somehow, hopefully they do that.

Terry Silver + Daniel theory (essay)

(The only reason I actually watched Cobra Kai was for Terry Silver and the other chaos)

I believe Terry Silver is the real reason Daniel wanted Cobra Kai's extinction. Daniel was bullied by Johnny, but being bullied was nothing compared to what Terry did to him.

Daniel was being stalked, harassed and assaulted. To learn that Terry was the mastermind behind all of it must've been very frightening for him. From the very beginning, Terry's character is rooted in deception. Terry introduces himself as Kreese's old friend, but also portrays himself as someone Daniel can trust. He 'saves' Daniel from Mike Barnes. Meanwhile, he's breaking and entering into Mr Miyagi's home (while Daniel and Miyagi are there, that's bold), and shows up at the club while Daniel was hanging out with Jessica.

When Daniel tells Terry that he no longer wants any lessons once he realises what it's doing to him, Terry becomes chillingly cold. Daniel saw glimpses of this Terry during their training together, but now the mask has completely gone off. I cannot imagine how terrified Daniel must've felt.

Let's add Mike Barnes to the equation. Imagine some random boy shows up at your home and the store you're trying to build, vadalising property with his lackies, and beating you and your friend up, threatening you. You find out that your mentor and this boy were working with each other this entire time. To make things worse, you've been told that someone died. And then that person shows up and jump scares you.

It's pretty terrifying when you think about it.

Yes, Daniel was bullied by Johnny Lawrence, and it was bad. Being bullied isn't something people can easily move on from, especially with the different kinds of bullying people have experienced (physical, verbal ect.) On the other hand, being stalked is the sort of thing that makes you look over your shoulder for the rest of your life. Being deceived gives you trust issues. Daniel's problem wasn't Johnny Lawrence, it was Cobra Kai. Daniel found out that the reason Johnny was the way he was was because of Kreese. Not to mention, Kreese strangled Johnny in a fit of rage and smacked another student.

Going back to the 3rd film, Cobra Kai's teachings turned Daniel into someone he wasn't. Before Daniel was trained by Mr Miyagi he was a relatively decent person. Yes, he had a bad temper, but only because he was being provoked into behaving like that. We saw in the first film that Daniel's idea of revenge was sprinkling some water onto Johnny, which was nothing compared to what Johnny and his friends did to Daniel. When Daniel punched that guy at the club he immediately felt terrible, and tried to do the right thing. He went out of his way to call the police station so that he could apologise to the guy. He didn't enjoy what he did, he doesn't enjoy harming other people. Daniel's a hothead, but he's not a monster.

Fast forward to years later, and we see why Cobra Kai is bad. We saw it with Miguel. Yes, it teaches you confidence and what not, but it also teaches you to embrace your bad traits. With Johnny as the teacher it's not so bad, but when Kreese comes into the picture it's 10x worse. Hawk vandalised Miyagi-do. Tory started the school fight. They came to the LaRusso house to fight everyone there. (I haven't gotten over the fact that they threw a kid through a window).

Cobra Kai teaches you to become a bad person.

Terry Silver makes his return. The expression on Daniel's face isn't the same one he had when he re-meets Johnny. Terry gives Daniel a sincere apology, but Daniel rejects it. First of all, Terry shows up with Kreese, with the same hairstyle he had years ago. The fact that he showed up at all while there's a karate tournament that Daniel is involved in couldn't mean anything good.

The way Terry reacts to the rejection is concerning. It was as if he was entitled to it. If not entitled, then he expected his apology to be accepted. Like Mike's apology. Chozen's apology. Johnny's apology?

I firmly believe Daniel's rejection was the motive behind Terry's actions. Daniel tried to end Cobra Kai, only for Terry to come along and try to turn it into his legacy. Terry shows up to charity events that Daniel is involved in, and tries to break his marriage bit by bit.

Terry is obsessed with Daniel.

Both as a mentor and potentially something else. We know that Terry is a very capable mentor, as we've seen with his relationship with Kenny. It's kind of hinted that Terry himself was bullied, and we see glimpses of this in the war flashbacks. He's called 'Twig', and he didn't like that name. Mean nicknames are a version of name calling if you ask me.

Terry probably saw himself in Daniel, and felt like he could've shared a connection with Daniel were it not for the whole revenge thing. "There was always a little Cobra Kai in you." Whether he was correct doesn't matter, but the fact that he said it does.

Cobra Kai's philosophy is rooted in its origins. Master Kim used it to defend himself from Japanese soldiers during ww2. Knowing what the Japanese did during those times, I can see why he developed the whole "Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy."

Unlike Miyagi-do, which preaches inner peace and being a better version of yourself to defend yourself and others, Cobra Kai is the opposite. They turn your weakness (or gets rid of) into a weapon for destruction. To harm others before they can think of harming you. To intimidate other people so that they can never be comfortable. Cobra Kai is rooted in suffering. It's rooted in being angry at the world. The bullied becoming the bully.

Weakness is not allowed.

We saw this with Kenny. He went to Cobra Kai, and Kreese was anything but welcoming. Kenny had to prove himself before he could be trained. Even Robby was a little doubtful. Kenny is a mirror to Daniel. Terry's 'second chance'. Kenny wanted to learn self defense, but that turned into getting his lick back. Making Anthony's life a living hell. That could've become Daniel if it weren't for Miyagi and the fact that Daniel didn't enjoy hurting people.

I think that's what made Terry's mentorship with Kenny special. Kenny gave into the darkness, but Daniel rejected it. Daniel is the puppet who broke free.

I believe that's why Terry wanted (expected) his apology to be accepted. It not only showed that he became 'better', but it meant he still had some control over Daniel. After so many years (decades), Terry still refers to Daniel as 'Danny boy'. It implies that he still thinks he can easily access Daniel, or still shares an 'intimate' relationship even though they haven't seen each other for decades.

Terry was a competent teacher. If you remove the Cobra Kai cruelty and brainwashing, I think he would've been great. Yes, he came to the All Valley to become a sensei once again, but we all know he returned for the love of the game (Daniel). As stated before, Terry got upset from the fact that Daniel was forgiving everyone but him. Whenever he saw Daniel with anyone he would stare in rage. He was always pleased to show up unannounced to surprise Daniel.

We all know he hasn't changed, but going out of your way to wreak havoc just because someone rejected your apology is crazy work.

I love how Terry didn't look the least bit offended when Kenny flipped the bird at him.

A part of me likes to believe he sort of saw Kenny as a surrogate son, or at least could've been. I always saw Terry as Kenny's Miyagi, and I can picture Kenny (when Dallas was still small) following Terry around. Terry (though manipulative) is more soft and sympathetic than Kreese was. Terry was probably the 'nicer' one.

Yes, Robby trained Kenny most of the time with the addition of Tory, but I'm pretty sure he was more of a brotherly figure. Terry had the mentor title because not only was he much older, but he could teach things Robby didn't know.

Like, Daniel was someone to torment, whereas Kenny's mentorship was genuine. There was a bond forming between them. Edit: Kenny and Daniel both have big brown eyes. Makes me wonder, if Daniel wasn't an enemy, would Terry have treated Daniel like he treated Kenny? Even with the coke in his system?

When Kenny flips the bird it's like seeing your child be rebellious, and while you could get mad, it's also adorable. No matter what, you'll remember them for the little kid they once were. Regardless of whether or not their anger is valid, that's your little boy/girl.

He didn't look disappointed or angered, it was more like a 'well, damn'.