Hi ily proshippers who have demonized disorders, I don't care what the disorder is, there is no exception here. You are just as valued and accepted here as anyone else. No I do not think you're an evil person just for having the disorder, I think you're a human being like all of us are and just because you have that disorder doesn't mean you are any less of a human being. 'Oh but NPD-' 'Oh but ASPD-' 'Oh but---' no no, NO disorder is excluded on my blog. Stop letting people and big media industries make you think that everyone who has these disorders are inherently evil and harmful people, this will only cause more harm. Ily a million times and I'm glad you exist here and push through the hardships, you are all accepted here.
I ordered a Caleb plushie and I'm (im)patiently waiting for it to come here's a doodle to celebrate though
I really adore the proship darkshippers/darkfic creators who go out of the canon and interpret characters however the hell they want to. The ones who are feral about it and either make an already villainous character worse or make a canonically heroic or innocent character batshit insane. I'm saying all of this for a reason, it's fun and interesting, and I'm actually really interested in knowing what you guys do to make your favorite characters or ships worse too, if you do that, that is. This is a safe space to rant about all the interesting and creative thoughts you have about that; the what ifs, the complexities, the alternate universes, the dark gruesome gut wrenchingly vile scenarios, etc; I'd like to hear all about it. No matter if it 'fits canon' or not. It's so cool to see how people interpret characters compared to their canon sources. There's no limit to what your mind can come up with and I want you all to have the space to jot it down and tell someone about it. The creativity and imagination you guys hold will always be appreciated whether you know it or not.
Also, if you're a proshipper who doesn't indulge in dark fiction feel free to still do the same with this post, it absolutely does not need to be dark and gruesome to be written and expressed. I'll be interested either way to see your own interpretations of things. Make them worse, make them better, change them into something completely different, put them in any scenario you want- good, bad, sweet and fluffy or whump and pure angst or a complex mix of both, turn them into a completely unrecognizable celestial being even though they're canonically just some average joe, have fun and do whatever you want forever.
I get really confused when an openly proship blog follows me but they reblog from a bunch of antis, I'm really unsure of if they just don't check people's blogs therefore they're reblogging those posts because said posts don't have proship dni on that specific post (I've seen especially a lot of selfship posts that have no indication of if proshippers can interact or not but their dni is on their pinned, so if it's just some random post on your feed like that it seems like there isn't a need to check the blog etcetc), or if they're, y'know, an anti posing as a proshipper 😭 I don't want to block someone over a misunderstanding since I like making mutuals but it's quite confusing. I moot a lot of people who follow me so if I haven't it's probably because of this misunderstanding (if it is a misunderstanding) and feel free to dm me to let me know, but also if possible please check dnis on people's blogs if you reblog/interact with them very frequently. I get it if they just don't have their dni in an easily accessible spot/you need to go through loops to find their dni but if their dni is on their pinned and you reblog from them frequently I'll probably misunderstand due to the nature of antis posing as proshippers. Sorry 😭 I also try not to moot people who purposely break dnis too so I also can't tell if it's done on purpose when it's done so much. It's just confusing for me, I might even sound a little silly right now but 😭
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Anon are these all you or. Because all of these came in basically at once?? (CW/TW for self harm + suibaiting, and general nasty threats/comments, for whoever comes across this post)
I normally really do just ignore anon hate unless if I feel there's something I can elaborate on in the ask but you're like spamming my inbox, just block me or if you're incapable of doing so for some reason or another let me block you. Harassing me will actually do nothing for you, maybe temporary satisfaction I guess but all in all you'll just do yourself more bad than good. Once again- block me.
If pro-ship and dark-ship aren't the same why do you say pro-ship should not correlate to your views irl in your pinned, are you saying you shouldn't be anti-harassment irl?? Genuine question btw I don't understand.
Hi anon, I'm glad you asked, I felt like I needed to elaborate on that more since I started to realize it could cause some confusion/misunderstandings oops 😭 What I mean by saying that, is that when you are proship, you are aware that every ship deserves to exist in fiction, whether or not it's something you like, right? But I'm saying that shouldn't translate to what you believe should be okay to exist IRL, as in you know, for example, incest ships are okay to exist in fiction because it's fictional, no real person is being hurt, and though maybe it's not your cup of tea, you'll just block it and move on knowing it's okay for it to exist in it's fictional realm. But you shouldn't believe it's okay for that sort of relationship to exist in real life. I'm sure most people know this, y'know, but just in case. I see a lot of people who only think things shouldn't exist for the simple fact it disgusts them or makes them 'cringe' and it's to the point those things shouldn't exist IRL because it causes harm to real people, so if someone happens to not be disgusted by that kind of relationship IRL, maybe because they know it's okay it exists in fiction, and decides it's okay for that relationship to exist IRL just as much as it's okay for it to exist in fiction, then that's just not something I can agree with, so I put that disclaimer so people know right off the bat that everything I'm supportive of in dark fiction does not correlate to what I see as acceptable IRL, plus proship and profiction is purely for fiction in this regard- everything deserves to exist in fiction, as it causes no harm to real people. Though, I don't go out harassing anyone of course, this is the stance of a proshipper; antiharassment, I just block people who have views that are too contradictory to mine for me to get along with. If I ever felt someone was at risk of doing harmful things IRL I'd report them as needed and then block. All in all it's just a disclaimer for people to know if I'm someone they can interact with or not. This isn't to say I'm just strictly against paraphiles by the way, I do think there's a difference between someone holding a harmful attraction and getting help for it and knowing it's NOT okay to have that kind of relationship IRL so they don't pursue it, versus thinking it's okay to have that relationship IRL and/or pursuing it (therefore causing a real person harm), but this part mostly ties into my anti-contact stance. I hope this all makes sense and if you need anything else to be elaborated on please do ask! I like to avoid misunderstandings as much as possible and am always open to explaining anything that needs to be elaborated on. Think of that 'there's no such thing as a stupid question' saying because that's what I believe in lol
Anyway is Tumblr actually going down and if so where do we go 😭
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Hi proship selfshippers, your f/os wanted to remind you that they absolutely ADORE you, every little flaw, every unique aspect of you, every thing that makes you; you, they love it. If you were ever considering that they dislike you, that they're annoyed, fed up, or tired of you, you couldn't be further from the truth. No matter the struggle or the quarrel, their feelings for you will always be the same.
If an antiship selfshipper happens to come across this post, yes, this also applies to you too. This all applies to every selfshipper, no one's f/o would ever hate their partner or wish harm on their partner, period.
They love you, always remember that.
Big big big shoutout to the proshippers who are in fandoms overrun with antis. Shoutout to you for not letting them completely ruin your love for the media, shoutout to you for being strong and not letting them change you in any way. Shoutout to the ones who simply avoid the fanbase at all costs because of all the antis, shoutout to you for keeping strong even when it's a struggle to interact with fan content. Shoutout to the proshippers who are active in the community even despite all of the antis in the fanbase. Shoutout to the proshippers who can't even interact with ANYTHING in general without being hounded by antis even when the content has NOTHING to do with ship discourse. Shoutout to all proshippers, ily.
Caleb and I as kiddos :D my hair used to be longer as a kid now I keep cutting it 😭
I just came across ur post and r u srs proship is just anitharassment,,, I kept hearing it was only problematic ships from antis (-_-') m not deeply involved in the discourse so I didnt know but antis tell ppl proship is problematic ship so much I thought thats what it was too,,, I never thought that was good reason to harass ppl becuz it is just fiction right? But it sucks I was misinformeddd (-_-')
Hi anon, I'm sorry you were misinformed oh no 😭 Yes, proship is anti-harassment and anti-censorship especially for fictional ships. I assume you're referring to my post explaining the whole 'It's darkship not proship' situation, and as I mentioned in that post people can be a darkshipper and still not be a proshipper, because proship is just the whole anti-harassment part. You aren't obligated to like anything being a proshipper, it's just your actions towards other real, living people that determine if you're proship or antiship. I hope it's all cleared up, antis do (very frequently) incorrectly describe what proship is, unfortunately. Thank you for the ask anon and I hope you have a lovely day!
Hi lazy selfship doodle because I can't sleep 😭 Why does Caleb look so mad
Hi sorry I'm coming across some posts of people being confused if proship means 'problematic ship' and people misusing the term proship FOR problematic ship who call themselves a proshipper, I think I've even used proship as a broad term on my blog to INCLUDE people who are darkship, who are still proship, since I think many of my followers are darkshippers, but I've been trying to make sure I say 'proship darkshippers' instead to avoid confusion, but. Proship is 'for shipping', pro = for. It's anti-harassment with fictional ships, the idea that every fictional ship deserves to exist without the enjoyers of said ship being harassed for it no matter the nature of the ship and no matter if that ship isn't your cup of tea. Blocking instead of harassing if it's a ship you dislike and not looking at the content made of that ship but keeping in mind that just because you dislike it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist in fiction, things like that. Profiction is the same concept except replace ships/shipping with fiction in general, once again pro = for. Darkshipping/darkfiction (or some people use the phrase 'dead dove do not eat', dead dove being the indicator that the media has dark content in it) is the term used for when a ship or a piece of fictional content has dark ideas incorporated into it. Like incest, non-consensual sex, adult x minor/loli/shota, etc.
Now here's the fickle part. A person can in fact be a darkshipper and enjoy dark fictional content and still not be a proshipper. A proshipper does not NEED to be a darkshipper, they are just anti-harassment. A darkshipper can, let's say, like incest ships, but if they dislike minor x adult ships, and they decide to harass someone who does enjoy those ships and believe that minor x adult ships shouldn't exist because they think it's 'too far' or 'too gross', they are not proship. Alternatively, someone could be very uncomfortable by any sort of darkship, they only like ships that have healthy dynamics and never incorporate dark ideas into their ships, but they don't harass people who do indulge in darkships and don't believe in the censorship of said ships just because they don't like it (they block and curate their online experience to fit their boundaries instead of going out of their way to harass people who break said boundaries). That person is a proshipper. So to reiterate, proship does not mean problematic ship, darkship is the term you're looking for. Now, knowing how words tend to change overtime in communities, perhaps I'm wrong or I've stated some incorrect information, and if I have please correct me 😭 but if not, I hope this all makes sense and helps at least someone out whose been confused.
Just a reminder that 1. You owe absolutely nobody an 'explanation' on why you enjoy dark fictional content and 2. You don't NEED to indulge in dark fictional content for the sole purpose of coping with trauma/processing trauma for it to be a valid use of your time and attention. If you do, that's wonderful and I'm so glad it provides you with that comfort, but it isn't an obligation to be able to enjoy it. Have fun with it, and please don't let what others say make you feel like you need to explain yourself, or that you need to be doing it for trauma related reasons, because that isn't true. Okay? Okay. Take care now!
Guyssss I got Caleb's new myth already I'm so happy 😭 I had to spend like ten dollars but I'd consider that pretty lucky considering how my luck usually is in LADS. Auhhh <3
tbh ive been neutral on the whole proship antiship discourse for a long while now but seeing how you handle anti asks and your explanation on the most recent one is making me consider downright saying im proship. i never thought of it as dolls, but when you said it it clicked in my mind because its true? either way ive never been someone who harassed people. thank you for this blog op.
Hi anon, proship has always been anti-harassment especially towards fictional ships, just like profiction is the broader term for being anti-harassment with all things fictional. Basically, ship and let ship, don't like don't look, blocking instead of harassing, things of this nature. So if your views align with this, you're probably proship, BUT It's totally fine to not want to label yourself, you don't need to call yourself proship even if your views are adjacent to the label. Not everyone wants to be actively involved in communities or use labels. But if you are wanting to be apart of the community or call yourself proship, we're glad to have you! And even if not, it's nice to know you aren't someone who will harass others over their fictional preferences, and you are still welcome here of course. Thank you for the ask anon, take care!
As someone that also has terrible OCD, anti shippers made it so much worse than proshippers ever did. Even if I’m very uncomfortable with some concepts they’re fictional and often tagged, that’s been a lot easier to avoid than people trying to enforce the idea that thoughts or stories make you evil
Thank you for your input, I don't have anything to add onto this but I'm just answering since I feel it's important. Hope you're doing well anon
nah i have scrupulosity ocd and jerking it to fic of toddlers getting raped is wrong end of. get help <3
Sorry to anyone who reads this ask, I will have it tagged. First of all I don't read fics like that, but is it of a FICTIONAL character? Then there is no issue. I'm extremely uncomfortable at the idea of a toddler aged character in a situation like that but I won't harass someone or say it shouldn't exist if it is STRICTLY FICTION. Also I think you lot forget that fictional characters don't look like, and sometimes, don't act like, real people. They are drawn in proportions that would look arguably horrifying if directly translated to real life. They aren't real, nor are they breathing or capable of feeling real pain. They are, essentially, the pixelated equivalent of dolls. Any fictional character can be put into any situation at any age, anytime, anywhere, and it would not cause harm to a real person because that character does not exist. You have to be able to learn to distinguish a real person from a fictional character, they are not comparable to each other. Also, get help right? Whether you believe it or not darkshipping is approved by a lot of therapists as a healthy coping mechanism. If your therapist tells you it isn't good for you to do/utilize, it's because they recognize that those fictional concepts cause you some form of discomfort. They will form their therapy plans around YOUR needs, so everyone will have different coping mechanisms. It not being the best outlet for you doesn't mean it isn't a good outlet for someone else. Alternatively, darkshipping doesn't need to be confined to "it's only acceptable if its for coping", it's fine to like dark content in general. If it wasn't fine, you guys wouldn't freely enjoy horror movies or video games like GTA. As I've said before, if proshippers make you uncomfortable and are apart of your DNI, don't stress yourself out by interacting with me first. Have a good day/night anon
You say pro-cotact dni is that all pars or only harmful ones?
Hi anon! I only mean harmful paras, such as if it involves parties that are unable to consent and/or it will cause harm to said parties (children, animals, things of this nature.) People can't control where their attractions lie, so if they are a paraphile with the attraction to said things I won't discriminate against the attraction by itself, especially if they are receiving help for it or have absolutely no intention to act on their attraction, I'm just strictly anti-contact in regards to those paras and don't want to interact with people who are pro-contact. Thanks for asking!
Hey, just saw your post about autistic proshippers and I (dude who is audhd) didn’t even realize that my ships could be a hyperfixation. Three definitely are, there’s no doubt about it, I can’t stop thinking about them. It’s an everyday occurrence. Soooo uh thanks for making me realize the obvious lmao, hope you have a good day.
Ohh interesting, feel free to pop in and talk about those ships anytime you'd like! I'm all ears. I hope you have a good day as well anon!
Proship selfshippers, did you know your f/os are so in love with you, like so in love it makes them look stupid... I'm chatting with them right now and they just won't stop talking about you! I don't mind, but I think they should be saying these things to you directly... Matter of fact, I'm sending them to you right now, your f/os can't wait to see you! Oh and for the f/os that are too devoted or introverted to talk to anyone but you, I just overheard them rambling to themself about you.. but I think they'll be on their way to see you soon as well :)
Gentle reminder for you lovely proshippers that what antis say about you doesn't mean anything, and you should never let their words get to you. You are wonderful and lovely and I, along with our community are so glad to have you here! You keep fandoms fun and safe, and that's amazing. Drink some water, eat something nutritious, and take a breather. Thank you for being you, despite it all! <3
Hello autistic proshippers, question, are any of your favorite ships perhaps a special interest? And if not the ship itself, is it the media the ship is from? Alternatively, if you selfship I could ask the same about your f/o(s) and their source(s), if this better applies to you! Light or dark ships, I'm just curious! Either way, I'm so glad to have you here and you are always welcome on my blog! Whether or not you feel you explore fiction, or anything for that matter, differently than other people, I will always be interested in hearing about your interests. Explore freely, do what makes you happy, no matter what you're interested in it is okay and you're valid for having an interest in that thing! No matter if it's dark fiction or not. And if it is, you aren't a bad person at all for being fixated on those dark fictional ideas. Have fun!
I made a darkship blog for the sake of dumping my dark scenarios, but it's also open for people to submit their own ideas too! Strictly MDNI (minors do not interact) though, unlike this account, just to make that known. If anyone is interested or has some ideas/scenarios they'd like to dump for any particular reason, the blog is @bl4ck0utg1rl ! There are no restrictions to what fictional ideas people can send in, no matter how dark or light or unhinged or sexual or whatever, as long as it is strictly fictional, and I will add corresponding tags for people to block if needed, so go wild :)
Hi proship darkshippers who struggle with moral OCD, just wanted to remind you that your fictional ships and interests do NOT make you a bad person what-so-ever. You are still a good person and the fact you don't go out of your way to harass people over their own fictional interests, the fact you don't wish harm on real people, is just one of many reasons why you ARE in fact a good person! It's okay to like dark media, it's okay to want to explore said media through art and writing and etc, your interest in these fictional ideas does not reflect your morals in real life situations. Repeat after me: You aren't harming anyone, you are not hurting any real, living person, by being interested in dark media. It's okay, you're okay, I promise. <3
Hey so I have a question what's a radqueer? Feel free to ignore if you don't feel like answering
To be honest I've been wondering this too 😭 I feel like everytime I try to read up on it something different is said. I don't know what identities/labels are included nor if they're in good faith or anything so that's why i haven't voiced my view on radqueers, I don't know enough 😭 If anyone sees this and would like to provide an answer it'd be much appreciated!
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Well hello anon, I hope you're well! Ilyt ? /p
Sorry I mostly post positivity but it genuinely grates my nerves when someone on TT asks what proshipping means and an anti just says 'child x adult' NO ! 😭That's (one of many) darkships, proshipping is just the mindset of ship and let ship, live and let live, don't harass over fiction, don't like then block/scroll, etc, you can be proship without being into darkship content </3 Don't even get me started when they downright say proship is just straight being a pedophile, phew. Way off there, buddy.
That anon had the most atrocious energy so to get rid of those nasty vibes I just wanna say your an amazing person and a beacon of light❤️
You're so sweet, thank you! You're an amazing person as well, and I deeply appreciate this. I hope only positive energy flows your way. Take care and I hope you'll have an amazing day/night <3