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"Toriel is so bad Asgore is innocent! Asgore is so bad Toriel is innocent blah blah blah-" SHUT UP THEY BOTH MADE A DECISION BASED ON IMPULSE AND GRIEF AND COPED HORRIBLY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BOTH EMPATHIZE WITH THEN AND QUESTION THEIR ACTIONS!

THEY ARE FIGHT AND FLEE! (And Asriel is Spare)

theory: frisk climbed the mountain to jump off

It's never really explained why Frisk tried to climb Mt.Ebbot. A lot of people believe that is up to the player's interpretation, but let me remind you that Frisk and the player are not technically the same person. This is supported by the fact that sometimes Frisk moves and talks without the player acting for them (like going behind the lamp or giving their name to Asriel). Here are three reasons why I believe Frisk climbed the mountain to unfortunately, end their life.

1. The kid in the intro is not Frisk.

You may be thinking, "But Frisk tripped and fell in! You can see it in the intro!" But the kid in the intro is not Frisk. Frisk has two stripes on their shirt.

The person in the intro only has one stripe on their shirt.

Who else has only one stripe on their shirt?

That's right, Chara. The date of the flashback also says "201X", which is the date that Chara fell into the underground. This confirms the person in the flashback is Chara, not Frisk. Frisk could've fell into the Underground in the same way, but remember, this is a game where nothing is the same.

2. Frisk had a bad relationship with their family.

Now this required a bit of inferring, but I think I've gathered some evidence to back it up. So, by the time Toriel leaves Frisk alone in the RUINS to get groceries, Frisk has probably known Toriel for around 5-10 minutes. And yet if you decide to call her, you already have the option to call Toriel "Mom".

Why would Frisk be so willing to call someone their "mother", especially someone who is practically a stranger? This could only mean that Frisk either doesn't have a mom, or doesn't have a very caring mother. Nothing in the game suggests that Frisk is an orphan, or grew up with a single parent, so we must assume the latter. Another thing that supports this is the final decision in the True Pacifist Ending.

Tons of times, it is shown that the choice on the left is the one that Frisk would be most willing to choose.

So why would Frisk want to leave their family behind to live with somebody that they met only a few days ago? If you're thinking, "Maybe Frisk is an orphan!", that could be true. However, the second option contradicts that, as it proves that Frisk does have a family to return to. This proves that Frisk did not have a very close relationship to their family, that maybe their parents were abusive? This could be the reason Frisk decided to jump in.

3. Even Asriel knows.

At the very end of the True Pacifist ending, just before you exit the Underground, you can travel back to the RUINS and you will find Asriel at the bed of golden flowers. If you continue to talk to him, he will question you on why you climbed the mountain.

Frisk managed to solve dozens of puzzles while traveling the Underground, so I doubt that they would be foolish enough to climb a mountain that people are said to "disappear from". Asriel then asks if it "was fate". It could be, but that's not a real reason.

And there it is, the biggest hint the game could possibly give us. A (almost) literal confirmation that Frisk likely jumped off the mountain purposely. Even before telling us this, Asriel uses tons of "..." while speaking. He only does this in stressful or sad situations.

I think he probably figured out the reason before he tried to ask you.

And so there is the proof that Frisk likely jumped off the mountain on purpose. I hope you enjoyed this theory!

Stay safe everyone! <3

The Bishop, aka Evil Ralsei

Smaller sprite

Church interaction, someone isn’t happy to see you. ᐁᐁ

Some backstory:

Ralsei’s nose was cut due to trying to stop Kris from hurting some enemies, as he was fed up with them not listening. After this, he stopped following Susie and Kris, Kris especially. Until the confrontation at the church.

The moment in time

Im so estatic that deltarune chapter 3 and 4 is going to release soon :0!!! So I made this based on the theories that Chap 4 would be the church. And also evil ralsei.

*muwhahahas in the background.*

Full artwork

My personal undertale headcanon is that Flowey isn’t emotionless and incapable of connecting with others because he lacks a soul or is inherently “bad”, it’s because he was deeply traumatized from watching his best friend/sibling kill themselves in an incredibly painful way only to die violently himself hours later at like, the age of 11?

That would break anybody. To make things even worse, he woke up an undisclosed amount of time later in a body wholly alien to him, unable to move, completely alone until Asgore found him. If that wasn’t bad enough he then had to directly face the consequences of his and Chara’s plan, and the deep pain that it caused everyone in the underground. His father, the king? Broken. His mother? Missing. His people? Devastated and hopeless. Chara? Gone.

And to make things just that much worse, when the pain and grief of everything gets too much for him, and he deems himself broken beyond repair and decides to take his life he finds out that he has complete control over time itself.

He then spends an unimaginable amount of time experimenting with this power, constantly trying to do the right thing, constantly trying to help people and make the world better. But he’s never satisfied. He’s never happy. He does this, again and again and again. He grows older and older but never actually ages, he sinks deeper and deeper into his own tiny world, becoming even more distant and disconnected from the people around him as situations repeat themselves and peoples lives loop and loop without end. 

Eventually he becomes so unbearingly bored of the endless, unescapable cycle that he starts to experiment with more negative situations. Afterall, his actions no longer have consequences, right? Anything he does, he can and will undo eventually. Even the most horrific actions hold no weight in Flowey’s impermanent world. The only person who ever has to deal with the consequences of Flowey’s actions… Is Flowey himself.

So he does it. Slipping deeper and deeper into his delusions. Falling deeper and deeper into genuine insanity as the years repeat themselves onto eternity and Flowey disconnects completely from the world around him.

At this point, he feels that he’s experienced quite literally everything the world has to offer. He probably lived as Flowey far longer than he ever did as Asriel by now. He’s befriended everyone, he’s hurt everyone. He’s saved everyone, he’s killed everyone. He’s done everything. Even violence doesn’t interest him anymore. So what does he do? He stops.

I’ve always wondered how Frisk even had the chance to fall into Mt. Ebott and usurp Flowey of his powers if he was constantly resetting the timeline, but I think I finally get it.

Flowey probably just… Stopped completely at some point. He stopped resetting, stopped interacting with the world and sat himself at his best friend's grave and just… waited. Waited for something, anything new to happen. Eventually enough time passed for a new human to fall, a human who inherently overpowers Flowey’s control of the timeline and so, for the first time in what must have felt like eternity Flowey was finally free from his power.

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After everything that Asriel experienced leading up to and during his death, he probably would have needed intense therapy to overcome the trauma. But that’s not what he got was it? He didn’t get therapy. He didn’t get the chance to heal. He got the powers of a god and the curse of his actions no longer having consequences. I don’t believe Flowey is incapable of connecting with others or feeling true happiness or love. I think that’s just a lie he told himself so his situation wouldn’t hurt as much.

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But, even after all of that I believe Flowey still has a chance at happiness. We see his character shift dramatically after the Omega Flowey fight. After he is once again stripped of his power over time, he has an intense moment of vulnerability that shows what I believe to be his true colors, followed by him coaching Frisk on how to get a better ending for everyone.

Sure, this was likely a trap for Flowey to take everyone’s souls, but once again, after his defeat as Asriel and returning to Flowey’s form, he has yet another character shift.

He’s genuinely happy at this ending. He’s happy that everyone escaped the underground, happy that Frisk gets to live their life. He begs the player to just leave everyone to their lives and to move on themselves. He doesn’t want his power back, he doesn’t want the cycle to continue anymore.

For the first time in god knows how long, Flowey is satisfied.

And maybe if the alarm clock dialogue is anything to go by, given time Flowey can finally heal. Flowey can finally find happiness and love again.