they/themConlanging, Historical Linguistics, Worldbuilding, Writing, and Music stuffENG/ESP/CMN aka English/Español/中文(普通话)
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Hi y'all,
I've been working on IWH mostly in the background, but especially the main setting of the story: New Katla Khi.
Anyways, here's a cool conlang (Kját-ra Khí) translation of a scene in my story:
Yése, gjêw sa mèrnrún’ rwek ga? Yessei, is your daughter gone?
Gìnger tan’ sa rwéng… I feel for you…
rjě sêr ta-ra, I understand you.
San’ nweng da, You are hard-working
san’ vèr áp da. You are the witch.
Nrekkháp zásorn’ sêr, nga ga? You’re cursed by Zasor, right?
Nga tan’ sêr. I am not you.
Gjêw tan’ sêr, I have been you,
rwek san’ têr. you will be me
Nga-phâi sa-gjo jeśú, Your path is not easy
Dàk-phâi. but it is virtuous.
Gwók sêr wjék khjàk-na. You will err and move on many times.
Dàkmèr tan’ sêr, Zàkgrí tan’ sêr. I believe in you, and I love you.
I'll probably post a grammar for this conlang in a later post, because it's easily one of my most fleshed-out. I only have about 200 words, and my goal is to get to 2,000, before I'll call it "done."
Y'all,
I took a class on conlanging this semester, and today was the last day, so the prof presented snippits from conlangs.
My snippit was that really sad quote I made in an earlier post, and I had to explain how the Sêi (the Time God) works and how she exists at all times kinda deal.
But tone of my classmates made a language with classifiers from set theory and discrete math.
Snippits from his conlang included phrases like "for all boys they are smarter than him" and "there exists a boy such that he is smarter than him."
I failed to ask him about what possessed him to do this, but I may get back here after that.
remember everyone if you google [subject] wiki and the top result is from fandom, literally scroll down like, at all. if an independent wiki exists it will almost be the second result, and it will almost always be better than the fandom wiki. a shocking number of people seem to be unaware of this technique
If Tumblr shuts down, we should all move to github. We can make github pages and fork each others' repos as an alternative to reblogging.
Y'all, I just got curious at one point, and I hope this isn't a repeat of a previous post. So, if you don't mind:
Wiktionary has a couple of recordings if you're curious about the difference/don't know linguistics and can't read IPA.
Follow-up question:
This is a hotly-debated topic in the English language. I sincerely believe that in my dialect, no single word is a true-rhyme with orange that isn't also either a portmanteau or explicitly related to the word "orange." (E.g. blornge does not count for me, even though it does rhyme, because it is a portmanteau of blonde and orange.)
Reblogs are appreciated!
The only good thing from all of this is that now I have an in-depth understanding of the dynamics that create this kind of situation, which is kind-of a must for Evil Government TM. Easily the worst way to get an in-depth understanding of that but...
I have a foolproof strategy for worldbuilding these days (as an American):
Step 1: Wait for Trump/MAGA to do something stupid and perform insane levels of Orwellian double-think to justify it.
Step 2: Write it down and change the names around.
I was initially skeptical because, honestly, some of these are only plausible w/o the Great Vowel Shift (e.g. grope, game > grapple, gamble) but yes, it's real.
Indeed, it's a no-longer-productive grammatical process dating back to Proto Germanic, where *-ilaz was an adjective suffix.
But anyways, some of these make sense with the great vowel shift. E.g. with game ~ gamble:
/geɪm/ "game" < /gaː.mə/ < /ga.mə/
/ˈgæm.ˌbl̩/ "gamble" < /ˈgam.ˌlə/ < /ˈga.mə.lə/
Note with gamble: an epenthetic /b/ is inserted after /m/ to preserve the distinction between /m/ and /l/.
more of my silly oc band au— honestly, are they even your best friend if they won’t help you write a concept album where your characters are totally in love?
Yeah lol I was just hoping there was like a quote in that excerpt that might be helpful. Wither is a rockin' name though. Like, crazy good.
Hey, guys, I cometh with a question.
Do you guys know any poetic words, phrases, terms, etc, referring to death? Stuff that's more neutral, or melancholic, something that acknowledges death as a necessity of life and deems it almost beautiful.
It can be from any language, so long as it carries the meaning.
For complete transparency: this is for the name of a faerie character who personifies death.
They describe themself as: "the leaf that is evicted from the tree. {T}he ageing bones of a feeble grandmother. {T}he rot that gathers on a dead animal, the bugs that feed on its carcass, and the entire process of death.
"In short, I am Dying."
But uh—that'd be a temporary name for her. I'm trying to figure out his "real name" so to speak. They're someone who takes joy in their reaper-like role and finds mortality (and mortals' attempts to escape it) entertaining. They find their own domain fascinating, but clearly a cause for others' suffering.
Just not hers.
Anyone have a word/name that carries those kinda connotations? Again: it can be from any language!
(i'd appreciate a reblog for visibility)
Reblogging to add what I've found:
I did not find what I was looking for, but I found a better passage, I think?
Here's a link to the passage and its original (Old Chinese) text.
Translation was done by James Legge (1815-1897). He studied in Hong Kong and translated a ton of Chinese classics. There are probably more modern translations somewhere.
Basically, this is in a section of texts talking about Zhou Dynasty rituals for burial, but unlike the other sections in this area, this one is littered with imagery about farming and planting and family.
The implication, I think, is that death just happens, which I think aligns pretty well with what you're looking for? Like, sure, on its face, it's describing the ritual of sacrificing crops to give to the dead, but the author goes in length through the exact process of farming, yk?
I hope this helps! I'm a Chinese major, so feel free to ask more questions if you're curious/don't understand.
Text below:
They clear away the grass and the bushes; And the ground is laid open by their ploughs. In thousands of pairs they remove the roots, Some in the low wet lands, some along the dykes. There are the master and his eldest son; His younger sons, and all their children; Their strong helpers, and their hired servants. How the noise of their eating the viands brought to them resounds! [The husbands] think lovingly of their wives; [The wives] keep close to their husbands. [Then] with their sharp plough-shares, They set to work on the south-lying acres. They sow their different kinds of grain, Each seed containing in it a germ of life. In unbroken lines rises the blade, And well-nourished the stalks grow long. Luxuriant looks the young grain, And the weeders go among it in multitudes. Then come the reapers in crowds, And the grain is piled up the fields, Myriads, and hundreds of thousands, and millions [of stacks]; For spirits and for sweet spirits, To offer to our ancestors, male and female, And to provide for all ceremonies. Fragrant is their aroma, Enhancing the glory of the State. Like pepper is their smell, To give comfort to the aged. It is not here only that there is this [abundance]; It is not now only that there is such a time: From of old it has been thus.
Hey, guys, I cometh with a question.
Do you guys know any poetic words, phrases, terms, etc, referring to death? Stuff that's more neutral, or melancholic, something that acknowledges death as a necessity of life and deems it almost beautiful.
It can be from any language, so long as it carries the meaning.
For complete transparency: this is for the name of a faerie character who personifies death.
They describe themself as: "the leaf that is evicted from the tree. {T}he ageing bones of a feeble grandmother. {T}he rot that gathers on a dead animal, the bugs that feed on its carcass, and the entire process of death.
"In short, I am Dying."
But uh—that'd be a temporary name for her. I'm trying to figure out his "real name" so to speak. They're someone who takes joy in their reaper-like role and finds mortality (and mortals' attempts to escape it) entertaining. They find their own domain fascinating, but clearly a cause for others' suffering.
Just not hers.
Anyone have a word/name that carries those kinda connotations? Again: it can be from any language!
(i'd appreciate a reblog for visibility)
every time i see someone call kirk and spock the oldest ship, i'm filled with the urge to go "hmm actually the holmes and watson girlies have been here for a hundred years now", and i refrain because i know the natural conclusion of this game is gilgamesh and enkidu
Please hold while I consult the Book of Odes. I read a poem about death in there once I think. Lots of Chinese cultural shit going on in it but it was pretty cool though.
Hey, guys, I cometh with a question.
Do you guys know any poetic words, phrases, terms, etc, referring to death? Stuff that's more neutral, or melancholic, something that acknowledges death as a necessity of life and deems it almost beautiful.
It can be from any language, so long as it carries the meaning.
For complete transparency: this is for the name of a faerie character who personifies death.
They describe themself as: "the leaf that is evicted from the tree. {T}he ageing bones of a feeble grandmother. {T}he rot that gathers on a dead animal, the bugs that feed on its carcass, and the entire process of death.
"In short, I am Dying."
But uh—that'd be a temporary name for her. I'm trying to figure out his "real name" so to speak. They're someone who takes joy in their reaper-like role and finds mortality (and mortals' attempts to escape it) entertaining. They find their own domain fascinating, but clearly a cause for others' suffering.
Just not hers.
Anyone have a word/name that carries those kinda connotations? Again: it can be from any language!
(i'd appreciate a reblog for visibility)
I have a foolproof strategy for worldbuilding these days (as an American):
Step 1: Wait for Trump/MAGA to do something stupid and perform insane levels of Orwellian double-think to justify it.
Step 2: Write it down and change the names around.
Yeah, I for sure meant a little both to encourage reading your works but also I probably misread a little?
Like, I think what I said still mostly applies but in a different way than I meant it, for sure? (Well, maybe not my first sentence; looking back that reads completely unrelated honestly.)
sometimes i feel like a bigshot mass media company when i purposely exclude important details from “the advertising” to help hide spoilers lol
surely it creates suspense for the viewer, who, now enticed, simply *must* go read your story
besides just being a wise business decision, it must also feel like that one raccoon gif from a million years ago, right?
sometimes i feel like a bigshot mass media company when i purposely exclude important details from “the advertising” to help hide spoilers lol
me when the plot won't plot like it should
after working on my (now finished) WIP after so long, i forgot how it feels to hit milestones like this
Experience: Learning the right way to connect the dots.
As an alternative to 'sugar, spice, and everything nice'
I present: 'salt, vinegar, and everything sinister'
I was yapping about register (sociolinguistics) in therapy when my therapist asked if I (as an undiagnosed autistic person) use sociolinguistics to understand other people.
While I have thought about that, I'm not entirely sure that's the case? Sure, linguistics as a whole is a special interest, but where my interest really lies in the whole thing is historical reconstruction of protolanguages.
Like, you're telling me we don't know where the gender system in Indo-European languages came from? Or where Arabic triconsonantal roots came from?
Sociolinguistics, while useful as a field of interest, just isn't quite mine.
"Rationalism" is up there with "Objectivism" in terms of "definitionally funny things to call your own belief system".
The 16 year old undertale fans that hate homestuck are in for a TREAT
The problem with april fool’s is that the majority of people aren’t very funny
This week, a teacher at Lewis and Clark Middle School in Meridian, Idaho was reprimanded by the West Ada school district for having a sign up in her classroom reading "Everyone is welcome here" she refused to take it down and went to the media with her story. The district responded saying everyone has to be a team player and the poster was discriminatory and distracting.
So students walked out.
This afternoon, a student-led walkout protest happened at the West Ada district office. Children are the future. Just because Idaho is a red state does not mean that rights violations and whitewashing are normal or par-for-the-corse.
read the story here