I've Never Read WoF, I Have No Idea Why I'm Here, Anyway Here's Me As A Dragon, Lol. I Think The Snowy

I feel like the main difference in the tone of the books is how the source of conflict has veered away from

"An individual's struggles with the natural world and interpersonal issues with those around them"

to

"The individual's struggles against the supernatural, destiny, fate, and appeasing StarClan (God) within the confines of a structural society + a bit of interpersonal / self struggles on the side "

Is it a safe space to say this ,,, Sol is the most nothing Warrior Cats character.

He was just there to pad for pages, until we finally got to the reveal. I wanted to smack him with toy hammers every time he showed up.

Our protagonists had much better things to do than stare at the silhouette of a guy on a hill who predicted one thing one time, and then just bloated the arc with his nonsense.

He was just a loser who knew nothing about the three's parentage, or their destiny.

And he sucked— and I think he's boring—

WHO ELSE IS EXCITED?!?!

@anon from downdetector, feel free to follow me, all I post is warriors though :P

I think where people flounder is when they misread Curlfeather's last scene to be a kind of disownment from Frostpaw ala the Patchkit AU MAP, and not as an indictment from Frostpaw of Curlfeather's actions up to that point.

Frostpaw is not saying— "You're a bad mom, and I don't love you,"

She's saying— "How could you do all this, that goes against the core values and morality of our society, turning Splashtail into a murderer, faking my dreams from StarClan, taking the life of your deputy, tearing RiverClan apart— How can you do that, and not acknowledge your wrongdoing?"

I mean, literally, look,

She doesn't want Curlfeather to leave. She loves Curlfeather, but also is filled with the weight of the betrayal and of her future burden— Rebuilding the home that Splashtail and Curlfeather had destroyed through their actions.

She still loves her Mom, guys.

Has anyone else noticed the 'mid-arc' creep, in the books? Like, the arc will be really good, until part-way through at like, book three or four where it just starts getting bloated with unecessary filler to pad out a book or two before the finale?

To make my stance clear.

I don't think anyone should be able to decide, for someone else—

—What accessories are and are not allowed on a fictional cat they drew, what couples they are or are not allowed to ship, and whether or not their interpretation of the books is 'valid'.

No one— Not the creators of the franchise, and not other fans.

And if you think you should be able to decide that for someone else—

Then you're an asshole.

Ok, about Leopardfoot. Jake suggests that Pinestar has a friend in Leopardpaw whom he regularly mentions.

This is not, and I repeat, not specifying or implying that he, Pinestar, has a crush on her. Yes, as Leopardfoot, she and Pinestar have Tigerkit together.

But, I don't think, truly, that the intention is to imply they have anything going on with eachother, at that point.

There's something so special about Mapleshade's Vengeance that I don't see in the other books, namely, the attention to detail in the names of the characters.

Mapleshade's name, of course, is meant to be conceptually similar to Reedshine, and Appledusk. But, the names of Mapleshade's three kits also have similarities to the cats around her.

Petalkit shares a similar name scheme to Mapleshade's mentor, Bloomheart, and more importantly, Flowerpaw.

And ironically, Mapleshade foreshadows her own future here when she and Frecklewish reflect on Birchface, and Flowerpaw's deaths— Symbolizing the cyclical nature of vegeance.

Larchkit, obviously, is named after a tree, as is Birchface and Oakstar. Of note, however, is that a birch tree, and an oak tree are both hardwood trees, while a larch is a softwood tree, bearing needles rather than leaves.

Symbolizing, of course, that he is not a "true" ThunderClan cat.

Patchkit might seem to initially bear similarities to Frecklewish, namely that he has a 'patched' coat, and hers is 'freckled'—

But, you'd be mistaken, because Patchkit is both the last kit Mapleshade rescues, by killing their father, Appledusk.

Is the least resemblant of his father, Appledusk.

—And is the kit that most closely resembles Mapleshade.

Patchkit, unlike the other two kits, symbolizes Mapleshade, herself.

This thread on Reddit about StarClan no longer being mysterious is so good!!