There's Absolutely Nothing Wrong With John Or Arthur Being Canon Straight Guys In A Bromance. I'm Totally

UTAU fan artists, cover artists, original song makers, fanfiction writers, consumers / merch buyers, etc. typically consume or produce content (blog posts, fanfiction, music, art) about other people's UTAUloids, usually popular ones like Teto, Ritsu, Ruko, etc.

This is a poll about them because I'm very curious! So, if you're one of those people, please respond!

This isn't about releasing one, I'm only asking if you've ever recorded one.

Anyone can look like Arthur Lester if i look at them for long enough

Living in America is so bleak. Every other post on my dash is asking me to donate to someone or other to help them cover their bills. And they're all Americans.

Literal shithole country. I hate living here, what the fuck.

There are people who are mean online, and who ruin the online experience for others.

So, here's my two cents.

>You can like Mapleshade, guilt-free.

>You can like Darkstripe, guilt-free.

>You can like Thistleclaw, guilt-free.

>You can like Rainflower, guilt-free.

You do not need to preface it with,

"But, I acknowledge that they're bad or abusive or xenophobic, or at fault,"

No.

You do not have to justify anything you feel about any character from a stupid cat book, ever. For any reason. Warrior Cats is not real. It says about as much about you that you like Thistleclaw as a shitty horoscope can say about your day.

Which, is to say, nothing, at all.

You can like a character because they're evil, or because you sympathize or relate to them, or because they stir the pot, etc. etc. Any reason that is your own is reason enough.

I often see the fandom conflate plot points / set-up with whether a character is 'defendable' or not.

For instance, Ivypool lashing out at Dovewing in one of the newer books.

"I can't believe Ivypool said that!"

"She was so mean to Dovewing!"

Well, while I personally feel like Ivypool was acting out in a very understandable, and sympathizable way, I also think fans are ignoring the obvious elephant in the room.

—This conflict only happens in the book to set up the book's story arc about 'alternative' afterlives. Bristlefrost, who we assume has faded from the world entirely, is revealed to still live on, even if only symbolically, through a stag that appears before Ivypool.

In other words, Dovewing's grief over Rowankit is being juxtaposed to Ivypool's loss of Bristlefrost, so that the book can reveal that she's not really gone.

In other book series, a Series of Unfortunate Events, for instance, the choices a character makes say something about who they are as a person,

As an example, from a Series of Unfortunate Events, the character Violet Baudelaire purposefully writes with her non-dominant hand when signing a marriage contract to Count Olaf thereby nullifing her marriage to him.

This shows that she is both clever, and knowledgeable of marital law. She is an inventor, and sees all the possibilites before her, even ones that would require her to think outside the box, in situations where a solution might not seem apparent.

Contrast this to Warriors, and you'll find that most characters are mouthpieces for the plot with characterization on the side.

Cinderpaw getting hurt, leading to Jaypaw developing hydrotherapy, allows us to learn about Cinderpaw being Cinderpelt, furthers the relationship between Jaypaw and his connection to the stick, and allows for bonding time between he and Leafpool.

But, we don't get much overt characterization out of this. We learn that Jaypaw is smart. But, it doesn't really say anything about him as a character. This follows for every other Warriors character, too.

We are dripfed characterization through little moments, Whitestorm spending long hours with Bluestar as her health declines, Firepaw's crush on Spottedleaf, Ravenpaw being happy at the barn with Barley.

But, ultimately, the characters are written in service of the plot, and not the other way around, like in a Series of Unfortunate Events.

This is a book series about a plot with characters, and not a book series about characters in a plot.

I never had an issue with 'age gaps' in Warriors because they're cats.

At no point in Warriors does anyone say, 'I think Onestar being mates with Whitetail is a symptom of a major issue in our society'.

—As it stands, the world building is that it's acceptable in their society.

The world building is that the cats are ok with it.

They are in no way analogous to real people unless you're looking to ignore the fact that the books are about cats and not people.

Ferncloud and Dustpelt, for instance, were thinking about being mates long before Fernpaw had even received her warrior name.

If you compare this to a human relationship, yes, that would absolutely not be ok. But, again, they're cats. They're not humans.

I really like your warrior cat opinions. I want to hear more. Get controversial. Make the warriors fandom gasp and clutch their pearls.

OMG. My takes are not that spicy, I swear! It's just that, coming from other fandoms, the Warriors fandom— is like— conservative, I guess, is the right word.

During the month I've been here, I've seen—

>a JPN Twitter fan of Warrior Cats get shit on so hard by the ENG side of the fandom for drawing Ferncloud x Dustpelt ship art that they deleted their art and issued an apology for having made it.

>the Warriors Wiki implode on April Fools' Day because the jokes were 'too offensive' for Twitter users to handle.*

(*The jokes were Smudge being a fat cat, which he is, he's plump, and a Cinderpelt getting hit by a car joke).

>that the fandom anthropomorphizes the characters to an insane degree.

For instance, one of my favorite Super Editions is Crookedstar's Promise. I love Shellheart and Rainflower, and their whole dynamic. And especially Shellheart's talk with Crookedjaw at the end of the book.

But, saying you like Rainflower (I ship her with Lakeshine, BTW) is apparently a big no-no, unless you slap a big, 'I know she's evil, I disagree with her actions, and hate her guts, what a bad mom' sticker over your post because, if you don't, you're 'abelist'.

Crookedjaw is a fictional character, they'd compare me 'liking' his mother to me being discriminatory against disabled people in real life. Like, that's somehow on the same level to them.

>that Bluestar is apparently controversial and widely hated because she named 'Brightpaw' Lostface. I seriously didn't see this one coming. I love Bluestar and she's part of why I revisit The Prophecies Begin so often.

She's so compelling, and her character arc moved me deeply when I first read it. But, any and all discussion I see about her, when she's mentioned in passing, or brought up in a comment thread— is all about Lostface! And how 'abelist' Bluestar was, and how, her being senile 'I guess *grumbling noises* excuses it' (my impression of comments I've received on Reddit).

>that Nightheart is sexist and 'misogynistic'– But, is he? Really? How do you get there. What are the mental gymnastics you are doing to get there. That's insane to me.

>That certain ships are bad because—

*Whitetail was Onestar's apprentice.

*The cats you're pairing together have any level of shared blood, for any reason.

Even if it's through a family tree that's been released half a decade or more after the book said characters were originally from.

*Fireheart was too old for Cinderpelt and she was his apprentice.

*Hawkfrost / Ivypool is unhealthy— which apparently isn't a ship dynamic in the fandom, at all. (If it's unhealthy you just aren't allowed to ship it. Period.)

*Dustpelt was interested in being mates with Ferncloud when she was still Fernpaw.

etc. etc.

>that feathers are culturally insensitive to Native Americans so everyone is banned from using them in their designs. Because— I guess— someone said not to.

Does the fandom know that not everyone is from America? The writing team is from the UK. I'm American, but I just am. speechless.

Anyway— I could definitely add more to this post, but I'll spare you. I've carried on now for waaay too long. Thank you for your ask!

I love my url sooooo much, but I also want to delete all my posts and pretend I was never here—

Not because of anything fandom related I just get in those moods where I want to delete stuff. And Idk.

I think where people flounder is when they misread Curlfeather's last scene to be a kind of disownment from Frostpaw ala the Patchkit AU MAP, and not as an indictment from Frostpaw of Curlfeather's actions up to that point.

Frostpaw is not saying— "You're a bad mom, and I don't love you,"

She's saying— "How could you do all this, that goes against the core values and morality of our society, turning Splashtail into a murderer, faking my dreams from StarClan, taking the life of your deputy, tearing RiverClan apart— How can you do that, and not acknowledge your wrongdoing?"

I mean, literally, look,

She doesn't want Curlfeather to leave. She loves Curlfeather, but also is filled with the weight of the betrayal and of her future burden— Rebuilding the home that Splashtail and Curlfeather had destroyed through their actions.

She still loves her Mom, guys.