#kaylor

Two days ago?

Are you kidding me? 😂

Hmmm what if…..

Listening to The Tortured Poets Department and thinking….what if this is from Karlie’s perspective?

Like girl, stop being so dramatic and tragic and let’s just BE TOGETHER!

Why are you sacrificing us to this idea of being the great poet? They don’t hold you, they don’t know you, they don’t decode you or troll you like me.

I’m the one who actually knows you….stop picking the fans/industry and choose us instead!

You left your typewriter at my apartment

Straight from the tortured poets department

I think some things I never say

Like, who uses typewriters anyway?

But you're in self-sabotage mode

Throwin' spikes down on the road

But I've seen this episode and still loved the show

Who else decodes you?

And who's gonna hold you like me?

And who's gonna know you if not me?

I laughed in your face and said

You're not Dylan Thomas, I'm not Patti Smith

This ain't the Chelsea Hotel, we're modern idiots

And who's gonna hold you like me?

Nobody, no-fucking-body, nobody

You smoked then ate seven bars of chocolate

We declared Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist

I scratch your head, you fall asleep

Like a tattooed Golden Retriever

But you awaken with dread, pounding nails in your head

But I've read this one where you come undone

I chose this cyclone with you

And who's gonna hold you like me? (Who's gonna hold you, who's gonna hold you?)

And who's gonna know you like me? (Who's gonna know you?)

I laughed in your face and said

You're not Dylan Thomas, I'm not Patti Smith

This ain't the Chelsea Hotel, we're modern idiots

And who's gonna hold you like me?

No-fucking-body, nobody (who's gonna hold you, who's gonna hold you?)

(Who's gonna hold you, gonna know you, won't control you?) Nobody

Sometimes I wonder if you're gonna screw this up with me

But you told Lucy you'd kill yourself if I ever leave

And I had said that to Jack about you so I felt seen

Everyone we know understands why it's meant to be

'Cause we're crazy

So tell me, who else is gonna know me?

At dinner, you take my ring off my middle finger

And put it on the one people put wedding rings on

And that's the closest I've come to my heart exploding

Who's gonna hold you? (Who?) Me

Who's gonna know you? (Who?) Me

And you're not Dylan Thomas, I'm not Patti Smith

This ain't the Chelsea Hotel, we're two idiots

Who's gonna hold you?

You left your typewriter at my apartment

Straight from the tortured poets department

Who else decodes you? (Who? Who?)

Source: LyricFind

Songwriters: Jack Antonoff / Taylor Swift

The Tortured Poets Department lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC

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Omg why am I just seeing this for the first time? Taylor and Karlie in the same video from 2012! More invisible strings! 😍

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8F8navn/

Oh wow I had only seen this once but watching it again… they’re so cute!

Your past and mine are parallel lines / Stars all aligned and they intertwined✨

Unbraiding: Holy Ground

Holy Ground was written in February 2012 (journal entry below), as you can see on the TL Taylor was still hanging out with Liz (Jan - March) while also hanging out with Dianna (not March bec of tour).

Liz was reportedly recording Jenny Turn Around with these lyrics which signals an imminent end

then -

Taylor's Vogue interview after the Rodarte SS11 show which Karlie walked in - Sept 13, 2011

Taylor's first cover story with US Vogue was out

In response, Karlie tweeted

Dianna also tweeted

In Feb, Taylor performs with Liz, hangs out with Dianna

and then writes Holy Ground which is a song reminiscing about a relationship that ended some time back and feels melancholic so it's weird to write this song for either Liz or Dianna.

Why would you write this line if the person you want to be with is there hanging out with you?

Although popular lore says that Holy Ground can be loosely translated to Dianna (Diana - Divine - Holy) Agron (Field/agriculture - Ground), the connection is too loose. Other easier options would be Divine/Holy Fields.

But thanks to friends (Liza @lzg27 and Michelle @omgplasticmenus) who shared the brilliant find that Holy Ground is a name of a popular restaurant in TriBeCa and it is also the old name for the area way back 1700s. Before Karlie bought her West Village Apt in mid-2012 she rented an apartment in the same area.

and the way Taylor used Holy Ground in her lyrics implied it being a physical safe space for the person she's missing

Many think that because of the line below that HG is about Dianna but it can't be because (1) She went there in April, months after the song was written and (2) Taylor did not sign it or anything. It does not look like her handwriting too, although I am not an expert but it looks very different.

Now, we don't know when Karlie and Taylor started but it's safe to say they were introduced in Apr 27, 2008 at Young Hollywood Awards and have been in the same space as you can see Taylor in the front row

It's hard to imagine Karlie saying they talked and had a baking date then Taylor's shout out saying "I love Karlie Kloss" and say they have never met. On print, on her first US Vogue cover, unprompted. Forever immortalized.

Then the last they saw each other allegedly is September and can be a reason for her reminiscing.

This is not evidence but again I feel like Taylor has always been conscious in using names of places even word to refer to her muse, and New York has always been hers and Karlie's.

So this next line below could mean both the city and their moment being very short or hurried or limited.

and then she is keeps on pointing that she has been talking about the same person not only in Red but also in Lover and in TTPD

all the dancing - maybe Taylor just loves to dance

The way we follow logic here is that we see a connection to Karlie that makes sense as intended use in the song

Holy Ground - Tribeca - safe space

Then building on it by adding timelines of potential muses and the context of the whole song itself -pining and melancholia, and missing someone

Tied together with lyrical parallels throughout her discography giving us tiny clues of what the whole story she's trying to share with us.

taking the quiz when

unbraiding: start with Begin Again

Let me begin this by saying it took me a long time to put this out because I wanted to respect various muse timelines, etc. But I also realized I wanted to get to the truth, or almost the truth since only Taylor knows.

These are based on interviews, Taylor's journal entries, music video/s, and also compared notes to other fandoms like Gleeks and took a look at Liz's lyrics and social media posts.

I start with Begin Again because it is one of the music videos we have that has irrefutable easter egg/proof:

Car plate 11 EZK 92

*why i saw it's not a coincidence? aside from the obvious initials PLUS birth year and car brand, this is not how an EU or French car plate looks like. If it was the correct format I would have thought it can be a coincidence.

2. Brand and model - so when i was looking at the MV for the 83rd time, I saw that the car looked familiar and looked at Karlie's post on the same year and it was indeed the same brand. BUt further looking into both cars made me realize they were the same model just different years (1 year apart)

3. looking at the secret message it seemed quite clear

4. And then we look at the lyrics and maybe she laughed with either Liz or Dianna behind the scenes but I could not find similar photos of them laughing like a little kid. This was also written before meeting Dianna.

I am also bound to believe that the other person was Liz because of her lyrics (H8U)

5. Was also bothered by the heels line because we know/saw she was wearing lots of heels around Karlie, who probably did not care because she was tall enough. True enough, the left shows Taylor with Liz/Dianna and she normally wears flats or 1-2 inc heels.

6. I think the person who would assume they had the most James Taylor collection would be the one named after Carly Simon (his ex-wife), but of course there's someone named after James himself.

7. this one is not based on evidence but just lyric parallels and gay guts, we see how Karlie is with her eg shielding her from paparazzi by moving chairs, etc

Taylor on Begin Again "I knew I wanted to bookend the album with ’State of Grace’ and ‘Begin Again’ because they’re inspired by the same person who inspired a few songs on the record" It's a song about going through a heartbreak (he) and meeting someone new (you).

Yeahhhh no I’m gonna need to see these two side by side.

Karlie Kloss has been featured on the cover of Vogue (US and International) over 50 times throughout her iconic career in fashion, making her one of the top 50 models in history to achieve such a feat! She made her first appearance on a Vogue cover in 2009 at the age of 17, and has since cemented herself as one of this generation’s top models.

I just had a thought about imgonnagetyouback. Our fearless leader says "Whether I'm gonna be your wife or / Gonna smash up your bike", which reminds me of the orange bike girl in YNTCD.

The implications of destroying the orange stationary bike that we've understood to represent stunting is quite interesting...

Oh my gosh, YES!!! Well done!!!

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