Idk If This Was Made Already (apologies If So) But I Noticed Jensen Has A Peculiar Way Of Unconsciously

Idk If This Was Made Already (apologies If So) But I Noticed Jensen Has A Peculiar Way Of Unconsciously
Idk If This Was Made Already (apologies If So) But I Noticed Jensen Has A Peculiar Way Of Unconsciously
Idk If This Was Made Already (apologies If So) But I Noticed Jensen Has A Peculiar Way Of Unconsciously
Idk If This Was Made Already (apologies If So) But I Noticed Jensen Has A Peculiar Way Of Unconsciously
Idk If This Was Made Already (apologies If So) But I Noticed Jensen Has A Peculiar Way Of Unconsciously

Idk if this was made already (apologies if so) but I noticed Jensen has a peculiar way of unconsciously allowing himself to let on public displays of affection towards other men - in this case, Misha. And this impacts his performance as Dean. 

Things we know for sure:

Jensen seems to always end up close to Misha, and one way or another finds himself touching Misha (more than he does other people he works with)

Misha is soft and tender towards Jensen (even if he tries to bro-slap Jen, it comes out as a lingering caress)

Jensen believes in a solid traditional concept of masculinity (perceptible by some comments like “real men do this/have this”, etc..) 

I don’t intend to psychoanalyze Jensen or judge him for some of his core beliefs. I do think, however, that all metas in this world are not enough to fully understand Dean and Cas relationship if we don’t consider the dynamics between the actors who play them. In order to understand why Dean acts the way he does in certain situations, we can’t ignore Jensen’s personality, and his relationship with Misha. I’ve found some of the bro-slaps and rough manhandling a bit inappropriate for some of the emotionally charged scenes, and now I’m pretty sure they weren’t scripted at all. I always thought this was Jensen’s way of bro-ing up Dean and Cas’ relationship but I wasn’t aware how much of it was not deliberate/intentional. 

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Women are raised to be (more) at ease in what concerns developing intimacy with same gender friends. They’re not scolded or marginalized by saying “I love you’s” and openly showing affection towards one another. Masculinity, on the other hand, traditionally establishes itself by the rejection of all traits associated with the feminine. An anti-femininity, if you will. Femininity - traditionally - includes not only intimacy with other women but liking men. Involves allowing them to touch you in intimate ways (I know it sounds like a bunch of crap in 2017, but gender norms have been shaped and defined by these principles for centuries). 

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There’s a part of born-and-raised-in-Texas-Jensen that rejects the idea of having intimacy with other men. His knee-jerk reaction is “hell, nah, I gotta go”. It’s not even about sexuality, it’s about his idea of manhood, and gender boundaries. Here lies, I believe, the reason why we don’t see Dean being as physically affectionate towards Cas as it would seem natural in their story. Jensen sees Dean as the manliest man there is, in some ways he even admires and looks up to him - as a reference. What Jensen - thinks he - has control over, is the definition of said boundaries: Cas is Dean’s bro. He runs with this even though he knows it’s more complex than that. What Jensen can’t see, is how that mask - the boundaries, the effort, the whole thing - goes up in flames with a single off camera (and set) interaction with Misha. 

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Most men are raised to only seek intimacy with women, and they crave it with other men, with their friends. Once they feel their manhood is no longer being questioned all the time, once they settle down in a het relationship, have a bunch of kids and their social status is unquestionably secure, they start to allow themselves to experience small portions of intimacy with other men. And I mean, closeness, tenderness, gentleness in the touch. Allowing themselves to feel and be felt by their friend without having to school their facial expression, or recoil from their touch wondering what it looks like from the outside - without worrying about what people will think.

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We sure enjoy the show he and Misha put up on every Cockles panel. The innuendos are fun, messy and liberating, but Jensen has shown, more often than not, to actually be drawn to Misha. His body language indicates he gravitates to Misha whenever he can, even if so ever slightly, he will turn towards Misha, look him in the eye, study his reaction after every comment, every remark. There are countless posts on here pointing out just how differently Jensen carries himself around Misha vs everyone else on the set. We can see it. What we don’t always see, so well, is Jensen’s inner struggle to reestablish boundaries with someone who keeps making him tearing them down - Misha. What I’m getting at is that, something as impersonal as a shoulder-slap is charged with meaning coming from Jensen. Dean doing it towards Cas, shows this is Jensen’s definition of love between men, of affection - matter of fact, as affectionate as he can bring himself to be in public. It says “I love him, and were he a she, I would kiss him on the cheek”.

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We can’t fully understand Destiel and the feelings involved without looking into certain attitudes the actors (let) bleed out to the characters. The same way, some of the the teasing and - downright - filthy looks Dean gives Cas, actually result of Jensen teasing Misha during shooting. When Jensen allies with Jared and tries to make Misha break character by flirting with him, making R rated comments, sexual innuendos, etc… Which, by the way, is what I call - flirting. One thing is to shove a broom or whatever between Misha’s legs to make him break character like Jared is fond of, another entirely different is to sexually tease and frustrate Misha. Jensen knows the power (and I had to make an effort to not type “influence”) he has over Misha, and he likes it enough to keep using it. The real question is how much he gets off on this bizarre dynamic.

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We should discuss more often about how when it comes to Dean and Cas, the writers do not script what we love to gif over here: the longing looks, the sexy tease, the checking out mode… Whereas, the distance between them is planed and set by marks on the floor to fit the camera angles, the mannerisms, facial expressions and looks are mostly Jensen and Misha. 

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What I find intriguing about the bro-slap is how it contrasts immensely with Jensen’s body language towards Misha. He wants to touch Misha. Whether in unscripted scenes or off camera, Jensen wants to touch him. No one is making him reach out to touch him every chance he gets, be it a shoulder/back/chest slap, a hand on his shoulder or back, putting his arm around him, or rubbing shoulders… it is obvious that Jensen craves that touch, that intimacy, even if (and probably, I’d say) he doesn’t realize it. So his brain offers him a way out, a coping mechanism to touch Misha in a way he’s comfortable with, he can touch him all he wants as long as he’s rough and manhandles him. Mainly when he’s hyper aware of thousands or even millions of eyes on them. I don’t believe for a minute Dean would bro-slap Cas in private, not at this stage, not with their story, I do believe those scenes are Jensen giving himself permission to have some men-on-men intimacy. Oddly enough, for such a careful actor, Jensen, sure knows how to school his body movements in public but can’t seem to be able to exercise control over his facial expressions, eyes, or his unruly eagerness when interacting with Misha.

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More Posts from Elliotandeni and Others

9 months ago

J-I-M-K-I-R-K [the kirk chappell roan edit]

5 years ago

I‘m crying about this

i feel cheated with that ending and with the movie in general. They didn't show tony's grief for peter at all! they made him move on and they only put that one scene we already saw on the spot. i'm so mad with the writers for this!

Hi!

I’m going to respond only on this ask because I’m guessing you’re the same anon because the other asks say the same thing. 

First of all, I want to say this: I feel you. I really do. I’m mad too. However, I’ve watched this movie too many times and I managed to pick up on some things about Tony’s grief throughout Endgame. While I agree they should’ve put more of Tony’s grief on Endgame, I think RDJ made a great job at showing Tony’s emotions regarding Peter. This man is so talented with his eyes and expressions, it’s incredible. 

Let’s look at Tony’s fears first. This is the man that constantly feared for Peter’s life on a daily basis since meeting him. He lived with this fear of losing him for two years of his life.

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And his fears became a reality in IW. He lost. This is Tony Stark, he doesn’t give up. He tries and tries and he never rests until he gets things done. Until everything is alright. In this movie, he actually gives up. After losing Peter, he finally gave up. This is where the “Peter’s death is going to change him forever” comes to play. He changed.

Throughout IW, Tony went fear after fear, impact after impact on each scene. He was living a never-ending nightmare. One that he already had an idea on how it was going to end.

 Remember this scene? Strange told Tony that If it comes to saving him or the kid or the Time Stone, he wasn’t going to hesitate to let either of them die. And this is Tony’s reaction:

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(YES, I actually made gifs for this)

He knows what’s at stake. He doesn’t really care about his life, he’s thinking about Peter here. He’s aware that Peter might die and right after this, he makes the kid an avenger because what else can he do? And the rest of the movie is just like that. Him fearing for Peter’s life over and over again. 

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Until Peter actually dies at the end and his worst nightmare comes true. Keep in mind that this is the first time we see Tony Stark cry. This is the first time this man cries after all the things he’s been through.

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Now, the first thing he says after he comes back is “I lost the kid”. Tony, again, didn’t care about his well-being, he was thinking about Peter. Thinking and repeating in his head the horrific nightmare over and over again. This is exactly what was on his mind the whole time he was on that ship. He desperately looks at Steve, trying to make him understand his loss. 

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Notice here how he avoids looking at Peter’s picture. This right here is what triggers him to lash out on Steve, to call Steve a liar, telling him he needed him and that he doesn’t have any options for him anymore because they lost. Because he lost. Because he feels like there’s nothing left to do. 

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He then marries Pepper and ta-da! Morgan. He cuts ties with the Avengers for 5 years and tries to live his life as peaceful as he can. Then Scott and the others come to his house and ask him for help with time travel stuff and Tony is in perpetual denial the whole time. This is his reaction when Natasha says there’s a possibility to bring everyone back.

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What is interesting for me in this scene is that Tony is the one that told Steve that he lost Peter and in this part, he’s telling him that he’s got his second chance right here (Morgan), who do you think it was his first chance? Peter. He’s looking at Steve like he’s trying to make him understand. He told Steve he lost someone with as much importance as Morgan already and is very clear that he’s scared. Natasha said it herself. 

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Then this happens: 

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He starts getting hope. Since this part, he starts letting that same fear he felt those two years between hoco and iw come back. This is his reaction at the prospect of actually getting an opportunity once again. 

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Then he tells Pepper about it and she tells him they were really lucky and that not many people got that opportunity and he says this: “I can’t help everyone” which can easily translate to this = “I couldn’t help him, I failed him”. 

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He then tells Pepper that he can stop it right there and I just want to say, this is Pepper, the same woman who tried to make him give up the suits and the superhero life a bunch of times. This is coming from her: “But would you be able to rest?” I bet he hasn’t really slept much in those 5 years. And the answer is on his face:

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No, he won’t be able to rest. He can’t.

And then throughout the whole process of time travel, you can see he’s starting to get his hopes up. This is him when Clint confirmed that time travel worked: 

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And this: This breaks my heart. This hopeful smile.

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This is him when he managed to get the stones on his gauntlet. The relief on his face is heartbreaking. He is getting his boy back. Finally. They’re so close.

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This part is very important and you might not see it well in here but maybe when the HD version is available you might be able to catch on his expression. When Thanos says he’s going to create a new world, one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost but only what it has been given. A grateful universe. The contempt, the rage, the grief, and the fear are back at full force. This is the alien that killed his kid, the last time Tony saw him Thanos wiped out his kid out of existence. 

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Then after EVERYTHING, he finally gets his kid back and he can’t even believe it. And no, it was not necessary to kill him but this is the face of a man that knows he can finally rest. He got Peter back and that was the most important thing to him.

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Sorry, this was long but this is my interpretation of Tony’s grief. We didn’t get much but he loves Peter and that never is going to change. 

5 years ago

john watson’s life: a summary

John: *wistfully wishing for a happy life*

life: *gives him sherlock*

john: 

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

life: *takes sherlock away*

john:  

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

life: *gives mary instead*

john: :/    :\      ok i guess…

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

john: *in a stable domestic relationship with mary* :-)

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

life: *gives back sherlock*

john: *looks at mary* *looks at sherlock* *is conflicted* :|

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

life: *mary and sherlock gets along and both exist in john’s life*

john: this is good compromise :-) 

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

life: *mary shoots sherlock*

john: wtf :///

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

life: *sherlock is sent to excile*

john: 

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

life: *excile canceled*

john: 

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

life: *mary gets shot to protect sherlock*

john: oh ffs @life all i want is a peaceful life….

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

life: *gives rosie and co-parenting with sherlock*

John Watson’s Life: A Summary

john: finally…

John Watson’s Life: A Summary
5 years ago

Me basically. And literally.

elliotandeni
6 years ago
The Titanoboa, Is A 48ft Long snake Dating From Around 60-58million Years Ago. It Had a Rib Cage
The Titanoboa, Is A 48ft Long snake Dating From Around 60-58million Years Ago. It Had a Rib Cage

The Titanoboa, is a 48ft long snake dating from around 60-58million years ago. It had a rib cage 2ft wide, allowing it to eat whole crocodiles, and surrounding the ribcage were muscles so powerful that it could crush a rhino. Titanoboa was so big it couldn’t even spend long amounts of time on land, because the force of gravity acting on it would cause it to suffocate under its own weight.

5 years ago

Is there a specific Peter/Tony overprotective moment that warms your heart the most?

YES!

All of Infinity War. 

He was so overprotective with him in this. Always standing between him and other people, standing close by, standing in front of him. Never taking his eyes off of him, getting defensive all the time for him, not minding the close contact at all (probably because he needed it too)

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never taking his eyes off of him…

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6 years ago

This is beautiful and melancholic and unbelievable sad. But it sums up humanity in a perfect way and reading this gives me hope that there are still a few good people out there.

gosh but like we spent hundreds of years looking up at the stars and wondering “is there anybody out there” and hoping and guessing and imagining

because we as a species were so lonely and we wanted friends so bad, we wanted to meet other species and we wanted to talk to them and we wanted to learn from them and to stop being the only people in the universe

and we started realizing that things were maybe not going so good for us– we got scared that we were going to blow each other up, we got scared that we were going to break our planet permanently, we got scared that in a hundred years we were all going to be dead and gone and even if there were other people out there, we’d never get to meet them

and then

we built robots?

and we gave them names and we gave them brains made out of silicon and we pretended they were people and we told them hey you wanna go exploring, and of course they did, because we had made them in our own image

and maybe in a hundred years we won’t be around any more, maybe yeah the planet will be a mess and we’ll all be dead, and if other people come from the stars we won’t be around to meet them and say hi! how are you! we’re people, too! you’re not alone any more!, maybe we’ll be gone

but we built robots, who have beat-up hulls and metal brains, and who have names; and if the other people come and say, who were these people? what were they like?

the robots can say, when they made us, they called us discovery; they called us curiosity; they called us explorer; they called us spirit. they must have thought that was important.

and they told us to tell you hello.

6 years ago

Words cannot describe how much I love and adore and admire this man

My TED Talk on Misha Collins

It would be the simplest thing in the world for @mishacollins​ to have a comfortable and private life as a successful actor.

But that’s not who he is.

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photo by : Light Grace Media

It would be the simplest thing in the world for @mishacollins​ to have a comfortable and private life as a successful actor.

But that’s not who he is.

The AIM of his position as a celebrity is, and always has been, to help others. He’s said so many times and he lives it every day.

In case anyone didn’t already know it, Misha started acting professionally relatively late. He did it as a creative hobby, and was surprised to find success. His lifelong ambition was not “fame.” It was politics. He got a degree in Social Theory and interned at the White House. Despite not finding it a good fit, because it didn’t represent the real-world change he dreamed of, let me reiterate. He earned an internship at the WHITE HOUSE under Clinton. Do you understand how competitive that would have been? What it represented about his passion and skill?

So Misha decides not to pursue politics because it doesn’t feel like he can do enough good there. When this hobby of acting actually starts paying the bills, he changes tack. He gets ambitious there, based on the idea that if he has a voice as a public figure, he can make change.

He has spoken openly about all of this, many, many times. Look it up. It’s all there. He has shared his history, shared intimate truths about his past. He has lived below the poverty line. He has been homeless himself, in his childhood. He is now more successful than people could ever hope to be, and the driving force behind his success is entirely based in the chance to have a big enough platform to facilitate change in a hands-on way. He’s a fantastic actor, but in bald terms, it’s a vehicle for his activism. Misha is probably - I’m not doing the specific math - responsible for the saving of more actual lives than any celebrity in history. Top ten for sure. His efforts are tireless, vast, and FULFILLED. He has put into place REAL change, from inception to execution, in countless ways.

And it’s never just one thing, one pet project.

It’s everything.

It never stops.

It’d be a great honor for most people to achieve the kind of change he does ONCE, on a project. ONE school built. ONE forest saved. ONE family housed.

It’s his life.

It’s his blood and guts and soul.

Misha’s impact on the world around him is so fascinating and unusual and positive that I followed him on social, as a human being, for YEARS before I ever even saw one episode of SPN. But he doesn’t need this credit from me - or from anyone - because that’s not why he does it. At JIB, Jared told us that Misha had a 501©(3) registered before even starting on Supernatural - Misha corrected him and said it was right after, but that’s the impression of him that people closest to him have. That’s where his head is at. That’s why he’s here.

Misha is entirely accessible. No airs and graces. He gets his hands dirty and puts his money where his mouth is. He speaks out about what he believes without any concern for public image, and uses his pedestal to enact the change he wants to see in the world.

The man spends every waking hour dedicated to being proactive about something. If it’s not charity, it’s community. If it’s not community, it’s craft. He does not know the meaning of idle, and he seems dedicated to sharing this connectedness of the world with his children.

Nobody on this planet is perfect, but if anyone could find fault with the way Misha chooses to direct his energy, I’d be taking a very long look at how they themselves choose to live and what good they’ve put into the world. Somewhere, Misha is probably picking up their slack.

If Misha wants attention drawn to something, you better believe that even the silliest publicity stunt has a higher purpose, whether it’s for a charitable cause, or personal development and interconnectivity. He puts himself out there and pushes people because he has that power. His mind is blown wide open. He grows forests from the seeds of possibility. He uses his pedestal to pull others up and steps down from it just as often. He’s an inspiration to anyone whose life he touches in any capacity.

He’s a hero, and history is going to remember him thusly.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

This was taken from Natalie Fisher’s thread on twitter x  with permission x. As stated in her Twitter bio, Natalie Fisher is a writer for @Hypable and host of @NATWPodcast.

7 years ago

In the most graphic of details What is the cockliest cocklesy cockles you've seen or heard about? Take your time. I'll sit here waiting in anticipation:)

OH GOD ANOTHER ANCIENT ASK DRAFTED *seppuku*

I know why I drafted this one, though. It’s TOO FREAKIN’ DIFFICULT!!! How am I even supposed to attempt to answer this? I hope you’re happy for I’m being tortured here!!

But then again it serves me right for forgetting about this ask entirely…

Anyway… I think I’ve mentioned this before, but I prefer the small stuff. Like, moments that are completely instinctive and come so naturally to either of them (although Jensen is the first who comes to mind when it comes to being careless about that stuff xD), that they cannot control themselves and then when they realize what they’ve done, they try to cover it up, but poorly haha

I don’t think I can pick only one. But here are the cockliest ones I can think of right off the top of my head. Be prepared for some horrible feels. (I really do hope you’re still following me because I’m about to go through some serious pain here)

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This one, when Jensen was SO FED UP with Sera’s bullshit about Cas and Misha, that he actually used sarcasm and broke his ever cool, ever professional public persona. It’s not, you know, a BIG one, such as the groping and grinding and all, but it seems so significant to me for some reason. And his expressions during the whole bullshit talk are priceless btw.

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The way Jensen says hey when Misha interrupts his interview and Misha’s cute little thing he does aND THE LITTLE SHRUG OH GOD SAVE ME

(and when you compare it to Jensen’s reaction to Jared interrupting his interview the same day…

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… yeah)

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The way Jensen was keeping an eye on Misha the whole time he was dancing. So cute. And not that obvious either. Like, I spotted him looking at Misha in the first gif only after staring at the gifset for like ten minutes hahaha, It’s so brief, but you can tell it’s not a coincidence and that his eyes are glued to him xD

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OF COURSE I have to mention the almost kiss. And Jensen holding Misha with the hand that holds the microphone… And totally resting his head on Misha’s shoulder. I mean…. Wow!!

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Just….. I have no words for this gif, and I don’t think I need to have any, it speaks for itself. I’ll hate it till the day I die. Thanks for making me look at it again. Really. Thanks.

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Of course, the “hahahah Misha I love you so much must touch you oops touch you for too long abort abort solution: clap oh wait no abort not clapping moment touch mouth pretend nothing happened errr awkward” moment in which Jensen is a dork in love and Misha is the composed one realizing he shouldn’t give it too much attention because Jensen already was making it painfully obvious for everyone with eyes. Truly precious <3

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THIS little gem we REALLY need high quality video of *sigh* One of the famous reasons the cockles fandom gets frustrated when on cockles sprees *sigh followed by more sigh*

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This one that makes it look like they’re hiding something. Which they are, I guess. But not doing a very good job of it. Fuckers.

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HAHAHAHAHAHHA no. I hate this one with passion. It’s one of the worst things I’ve ever seen and I was going out of my mind the whole day after I first saw it. Do not watch the video, okay? You can FEEL Misha being caught off guard. It’s GROSS and not recommended for people with weak hearts. Or people with strong hearts. It’s forbidden for everyone actually.

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The way Jensen smiles when Misha looks at him and touches him and just leans on his hand… NOPE

Right about now I would mention the one when Misha comes on stage unexpectedly with Felicia Day and Jensen LOOSES it and Jared’s like “Oh you pathetic lovesick puppy” BUT I’m not going to because I’m pretty sure I’ve mentioned it in EVERY single one of my cockles posts so yeah, I’m gonna skip it this time. I just though I should at least mention how much I hate that moment.

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This one messes with my heart rate in a serious way. The way Jensen steppes back and just, okay, listen that is TOO quick of a reaction to be an act okay. THAT was instinct. THAT was Jensen. And the way Misha looks so fucking pleased about it, I can’t process that. I just can’t.

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This is actually my favorite cockles moment. I mean, you don’t look down if you get caught looking at a friend. I mean, you can’t even really get caught looking at a friend because you don’t need to do it secretly. So, yeah, this is one of the moments that make me scream internally. Fuck you two. Fuck you so very much.

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Yeah. I know. I hate it too. U just wish Jensen didn’t have to be on stage with Misha, since he HATES him so much. #pray4jensen

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Misha warning Jensen to STOP FLIRTING SO OPENLY by side glancing at him. I find this so precious because WOW. Jensen was going STRONG and then Misha probably just did that so he could tell Jensen he was going overboard. It’s too PRECIOUS REALLY. And then Jensen just walked away, smiling awkwardly. Love it.

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Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you “Did I just cup Misha’s face and playfully pushed him away on stage in front of all these people?” starring Jensen Ackles.

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Still don’t know what to make of this. Like ??????????? I don’t mind when my knee is touching a friend’s, but I don’t adjust my leg so that would happen. ??????

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I have a few problems with this moment.

Misha saying “we get a tingly feeling so we know it’s you”

Misha’s face while saying “we get a tingly feeling so we know it’s you”

Jensen’s reaction to Misha saying “we get a tingly feeling so we know it’s you”

Misha’s reaction to Jensen’s reaction to “we get a tingly feeling so we know it’s you”

WE GET A TINGLY FEELING SO WE KNOW IT’S YOU

???????????????????????????

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Jensen watching Misha interact with kids. BIG PROBLEM.

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You know what, I HATE this panel. With PASSION.

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This is before Misha says WE get a TINGLY FEELING so we know it’s you, it’s when the fan plays the song, BUT, since it actually causes more pain than that moment, I decided to leave it for last. I can go and cry myself to death now. Goodbye world.

P.S. I’m SO sorry for replying so late. I know you said to take my time but I don’t think you meant over 2 months xD I just hope you’re still around to see it. I mean, I don’t think you’re dead, just maybe you’re not following me anymore. If you do see it, I hope you like it!!! :)

5 years ago

ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF THE TEEN TO YOUNG ADULT TRANSITION

Peter Parker really went from a “don’t tell me what to do” 15 year old

Peter Parker Really Went From A “don’t Tell Me What To Do” 15 Year Old

To a “please, for the love of god, tell me what to do” 17 year old.

Peter Parker Really Went From A “don’t Tell Me What To Do” 15 Year Old

accurate representation of the teen to young adult transition

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