I Think About How The Last Thing We Heard Lemar Say To John Was “think Of All The Lives We Could Have

I think about how the last thing we heard Lemar say to John was “think of all the lives we could have saved that day if we had that serum”

And then when John got the serum, he couldn’t save Lemar’s life

But when that truck with the hostages was going to fall, John, with the strength of the serum, was able to grab onto it and keep it from falling — yes he ultimately couldn’t pull it from the edge but if he hadn’t kept it from falling, Sam wouldn’t have had the time to get there to grab it

In the end, John did exactly what Lemar thought they could do with the serum: save lives

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Why was Isaiah recognised as a victim, but not Bucky?

(Just to be completely clear this is not me trying to take away any attention or downplaying the horrible and horrific things that was done to Isaiah in any way. Its just me wondering why they recognise Isaiah as a victim, but not Bucky)

Yes Isaiah went through racism as well, which is obviously horrible. But other than Isaiah and Bucky have a lot of parallels.

Had the supersoldier serum forced on them

Imprisoned for decades before managing to escape

Experimented on without their consent during their entire imprisonments

Tortured and abused during their entire imprisonments

Lost almost all of their loved ones because they died during the decades they were imprisoned

Lost everyone and everything they knew before their imprisonments

In tfatws they recognise what was done to Isaiah and that he was a victim as they should, but for Bucky they do the opposite.

For an example, lets look at how they talk about what dr Nagel admitted to. Dr Nagel dehumanised Isaiah and worked on samples from him from around 2014 to 2018 so around 30 years after Isaiah managed to escape, and they recognised the horribleness of that as they should. However he also admitted to working on the winter soldier program (aka the torture, abuse and anything else that went into keeping Bucky as the winter soldier) from around 1992 to 2014. So he was participating in Buckys torture and abuse for over 20 years! But that isnt even mentioned after dr Nagels said it and explained that was the only reason he was hired by the government and was able to experiment with the samples taken from Isaiah in the first place. Dr Nagel literally admitted to being one of Buckys abusers for over two decades, and no one even mentioned it?! No one called him out on what he had done to one of the main characters?! What the hell?!

I mean for all the talk about how Buckys trauma isnt more valid than others, the same isnt said for any of the other characters. All trauma is valid and should be treated like it! And just as Buckys trauma isnt more valid than Isaiahs, it goes the other way too. So why do they validate Isaiahs trauma and victimhood but do the opposite for Buckys? Is it because Isaiahs was racially motivated? I mean obviously that adds another layers, but Buckys trauma also has additional layers (what they did to his mind and being used as a weapon). However I would never invalidate either of them, because I recognise how wrong that is. Unfortunately the writers and creators of tfatws clearly didnt realise that.

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That does answer my answer greatly, thank you for the reply and explanation.

For your only child MikeyAU Do Lieutenant or Brute have some reservations on letting Raph become a host for the armor? Like they got attached to him after a few years together.

I’d probably say that Raph is kind of in the same boat as Casey (who was also taken into the Foot at a young age) in that Lieutenant and Brute sort of take on a mentor role and they definitely care for his well-being, but aren’t proper substitutes for parents. They treat Raph less like their child and more like an employee (to emphasize this, Raph wears a disguise and works at the Foot Shack lol). Raph is pretty much given free reign around New York as long as he doesn’t attract too much attention to himself.

Also, because they are a cult, they see Raph’s destiny to become the Shredder as genuinely amazing; they aren’t doing it with malicious intent (not that that excuses it, of course, because it’s still bad for Raph) , but because it’s the highest honor one can have in the Foot, and since he works so hard, and is naturally durable, it makes perfect sense for them to pick him.

Hope that answers it!

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