If Thats The Case, Then He's A Anti-Villain

if thats the case, then he's a Anti-Villain

Anti’s Motivations: An Open Discussion (+A Theory)

I’m not sure if there’s a post like this already so I’m sorry if this is repetitive, but I’ve been giving this some thought lately, specially now with this:

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One thing I always look for in a villain/antagonist is their motivations and their plan of action in accordance to them.

Whether it’s the trope of ‘doing bad deeds for “good” reasons’ (e.g. The Vulture, Wilson Fisk, Negan, Thanos, Killmonger) or ‘doing “good” things for the “best” reasons (e.g. Claude Frollo, Mother Gothel) OR ‘doing everything to benefit myself’ (e.g. Kilgrave, Cruella de Vil, Firelord Ozai, Moriarty), O R ‘doing things with the intent of destroying the concept of good and bad deeds/reasons’ (e.g. Hannibal, The Joker), being able to feel as though the trope is natural for the villain themselves is what’s important to me.

Which brings me to the topic of Antisepticeye.

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Again, these are just my thoughts so I’d very much like to hear anybody else’s as well. :)

Personally, with how Jack’s chosen to progress Anti’s storyline (which is by delving into the other egos’ storylines), I think Anti’s one true goal from the very beginning is to get rid of the other egos in an attempt to cleanse Jack of their natures, not because he seeks to control Jack, but to grant Jack more control of himself.

From the very beginning, Anti has done nothing but threaten either the viewers or the egos of his  presence, especially with his first real appearance in Say Goodbye. I remember this is where the evil-demonic-entity-possession idea came to be (which I still love <3) but when I look at how he holds himself here NOW, especially with THIS line:

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I think it’s possible that he’s not saying Jack’s body was weak as an insult to Jack himself, but I think it’s an insult to us.

Imagine if you had a really REALLY close friend, who was kind and caring but tends to overwork themselves for the sake of people who believe in them. You understand their point of view, telling you that this is what makes them happy, but you also know that nothing good comes from overworking so you stick by their side, placing your faith in them to know their limits.

But then they reach their limits, but still push on. They tire themselves, strain themselves to the core, while you watch the very same people who believe in your friend show no sign of noticing, no sign of caring, and even worse, pushing your friend even MORE out of his limit. And one day you say no, shut up, you’re wrong, THAT’S ENOUGH.

Now look at this scene again, with that context:

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The fact that his face is showing anger at the viewer instead of triumph over what can be assumed as a victory feels much more natural now. He glitches into a smile for a second yes, but think of it as a cynical smile. “He thinks they actually care. You all think you care? YOU THINK YOU CARE?? I WOULDN’T BE HERE IF YOU DID. HIS BODY WAS WEAK AND YOU LET IT HAPPEN. YOU WANTED THIS.”

Hell, even stabbing the pumpkin representing Jack’s gift to us (or maybe just us in particular) is the cherry on top.

In fact, if there is a masterpost of ALL of Anti’s appearances (which I’m sure there is), try looking at them in this context as well. And heck, this is probably really grasping at straws but by the end of 2017 Jack has mentioned time and time again that he had gone in his own spiral of depression, one that he had slowly but surely worked through thank fuck. And around the time, I think most of the egos had started to disappear. Then came the start of 2018 and without the egos, Jack has been much more positive than he was before. HECK, PMA.

The fact that this Anti story and Jack’s own personal life can get subtly interwoven like this is pretty fucking amazing, but if it wasn’t and was just a coincidence then whoops. :)

So overall, I think Anti thinks we don’t deserve Jack. His time, his efforts, EVERYTHING. There might’ve been a time when he did, especially since it was thanks to the community that Anti came to be, but then Dr. Schneeplestein happened, then Marvin, then on and on the new egos came to be and on and on the weight on Jack’s shoulders grew. Jack became more Jacksepticeye than Sean McLoughlin, so what did Anti do? What was the only thing he could do?

Or more specifically, what is an antiseptic suppose to do?

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TL;DR: I think Anti, at his core, is an Antivirus. He detects the threats to Jack’s well-being, and he thinks the other egos are exactly that. So he tries to get rid of them all AND the memories that come with them. This leads to Jack being in a comatose state, but a safe mode state, and he continues his mission while he sleeps.

But now that most of said threats have already been “quarantined”, all that’s left to do to make sure that any copies or connection attempts from outside fores (us) to the egos do NOT pass. And what better way to do this other than upgrading into a firewall?

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So does this mean Anti falls under the trope of “doing bad things for good reasons”? Honestly, I don’t think so, at least not entirely. It could be argued that his true goal is simply self-preservation. To get rid of the egos not for Jack’s sake, but for his. To come back to the state of mind where it was just the two of them, where at least it was somewhat peaceful.

But that’s just a theory. I’d love to learn more. <3

@markired @fear-is-nameless @lum1natrix @stilinskidetectiveagency (i didn’t know who to tag i’m sorry OTL)

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Being in the jacksepticeye, markiplier, and Thomas Sanders communities at the same time on tumblr like

JSE: zalgo text, missing egos, everything’s on fire, F E A R

Markiplier: THEDOORTHEDOORTHEDOORTHEFUCKINGDOOR WE ARE ALL DYING WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED

Thomas Sanders: ok but what other flavours of deodorant does Remus eat? Would he eat the good smelling kind or is it all just badness?

Maybe that's the reason why Schneep saves Chase by being with his Family... He knew, if Chase didnt see his family, he turns into Anti!

So Time Is Broken Right?

So time is broken right?

Jack recently said this and it got me thinking;

So hear me out….

So Time Is Broken Right?

Anti is Chase

So Time Is Broken Right?

I know I’m smoking

But time is broke according to Jack?

What if Anti is Chase after his kids and wife mysteriously disappear.

Anti knows what Chase is going through and knows he’s going to be miserable with there still being a chance of him getting his kids back

So Anti, wanting Chase (also known as him), to be strong and powerful

Anti takes his kids to send Chase down the path of becoming the virus i.e killing Jack

So Time Is Broken Right?

Basically Antispeticeye is what Chase Brody will turn into without his kids….

@therealjacksepticeye

The Egos is all in Jack's head

Lemme explain, im not saying they're fake and Jack is all acting it... In The JSE Universe, everything is real as it gets, and all egos is their own person.

They take turns, based on the games. Well, they took turns, except one... Anti! Remember when he post the Glitch In The System! If im correct, a system is called in like group or collective personas in one body or fictional characters! And if every egos got their turns taking Jack's body...

Then, Anti is the one, who broke that fairness... This also means that every sketches we see, that involve with The Egos, all happens in Jack's Mental World! Beside, we dont really see Egos see each other that much... They just mention one and another... And if that's the case, then, maybe the reason why Jack is in a Coma... Cause of all the events happening in his head... Ever since Anti entered, The System is completely destroyed, maybe he isnt talking about Computer System... But Mental System.

Edit:

Also... Anti is a seperate Ego from Jack, he lives within Digital and Mental... (Which is why we can see him appear in Jack's videos, without Jack noticing it, and see him and Jack/Schneep in the same room) and Mental (Cause of the short films/sketches Jack made of him ex: Dark Silence and Chase)

@fear-is-nameless @egopocalypse @yocatgrannae @antisepticeye-theorising @egotheory-blog

@therealjacksepticeye

@Anti


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Anti’s Motivations: An Open Discussion (+A Theory)

I’m not sure if there’s a post like this already so I’m sorry if this is repetitive, but I’ve been giving this some thought lately, specially now with this:

image

One thing I always look for in a villain/antagonist is their motivations and their plan of action in accordance to them.

Whether it’s the trope of ‘doing bad deeds for “good” reasons’ (e.g. The Vulture, Wilson Fisk, Negan, Thanos, Killmonger) or ‘doing “good” things for the “best” reasons (e.g. Claude Frollo, Mother Gothel) OR ‘doing everything to benefit myself’ (e.g. Kilgrave, Cruella de Vil, Firelord Ozai, Moriarty), O R ‘doing things with the intent of destroying the concept of good and bad deeds/reasons’ (e.g. Hannibal, The Joker), being able to feel as though the trope is natural for the villain themselves is what’s important to me.

Which brings me to the topic of Antisepticeye.

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Again, these are just my thoughts so I’d very much like to hear anybody else’s as well. :)

Personally, with how Jack’s chosen to progress Anti’s storyline (which is by delving into the other egos’ storylines), I think Anti’s one true goal from the very beginning is to get rid of the other egos in an attempt to cleanse Jack of their natures, not because he seeks to control Jack, but to grant Jack more control of himself.

From the very beginning, Anti has done nothing but threaten either the viewers or the egos of his  presence, especially with his first real appearance in Say Goodbye. I remember this is where the evil-demonic-entity-possession idea came to be (which I still love <3) but when I look at how he holds himself here NOW, especially with THIS line:

image

I think it’s possible that he’s not saying Jack’s body was weak as an insult to Jack himself, but I think it’s an insult to us.

Imagine if you had a really REALLY close friend, who was kind and caring but tends to overwork themselves for the sake of people who believe in them. You understand their point of view, telling you that this is what makes them happy, but you also know that nothing good comes from overworking so you stick by their side, placing your faith in them to know their limits.

But then they reach their limits, but still push on. They tire themselves, strain themselves to the core, while you watch the very same people who believe in your friend show no sign of noticing, no sign of caring, and even worse, pushing your friend even MORE out of his limit. And one day you say no, shut up, you’re wrong, THAT’S ENOUGH.

Now look at this scene again, with that context:

image

The fact that his face is showing anger at the viewer instead of triumph over what can be assumed as a victory feels much more natural now. He glitches into a smile for a second yes, but think of it as a cynical smile. “He thinks they actually care. You all think you care? YOU THINK YOU CARE?? I WOULDN’T BE HERE IF YOU DID. HIS BODY WAS WEAK AND YOU LET IT HAPPEN. YOU WANTED THIS.”

Hell, even stabbing the pumpkin representing Jack’s gift to us (or maybe just us in particular) is the cherry on top.

In fact, if there is a masterpost of ALL of Anti’s appearances (which I’m sure there is), try looking at them in this context as well. And heck, this is probably really grasping at straws but by the end of 2017 Jack has mentioned time and time again that he had gone in his own spiral of depression, one that he had slowly but surely worked through thank fuck. And around the time, I think most of the egos had started to disappear. Then came the start of 2018 and without the egos, Jack has been much more positive than he was before. HECK, PMA.

The fact that this Anti story and Jack’s own personal life can get subtly interwoven like this is pretty fucking amazing, but if it wasn’t and was just a coincidence then whoops. :)

So overall, I think Anti thinks we don’t deserve Jack. His time, his efforts, EVERYTHING. There might’ve been a time when he did, especially since it was thanks to the community that Anti came to be, but then Dr. Schneeplestein happened, then Marvin, then on and on the new egos came to be and on and on the weight on Jack’s shoulders grew. Jack became more Jacksepticeye than Sean McLoughlin, so what did Anti do? What was the only thing he could do?

Or more specifically, what is an antiseptic suppose to do?

image

TL;DR: I think Anti, at his core, is an Antivirus. He detects the threats to Jack’s well-being, and he thinks the other egos are exactly that. So he tries to get rid of them all AND the memories that come with them. This leads to Jack being in a comatose state, but a safe mode state, and he continues his mission while he sleeps.

But now that most of said threats have already been “quarantined”, all that’s left to do to make sure that any copies or connection attempts from outside fores (us) to the egos do NOT pass. And what better way to do this other than upgrading into a firewall?

image
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So does this mean Anti falls under the trope of “doing bad things for good reasons”? Honestly, I don’t think so, at least not entirely. It could be argued that his true goal is simply self-preservation. To get rid of the egos not for Jack’s sake, but for his. To come back to the state of mind where it was just the two of them, where at least it was somewhat peaceful.

But that’s just a theory. I’d love to learn more. <3

@markired @fear-is-nameless @lum1natrix @stilinskidetectiveagency (i didn’t know who to tag i’m sorry OTL)

similar theory! 😳

Anti’s Evolution

I have been thinking intensely about why Anti’s appearances have been drastically different from previous times. There has been no zalgo in the descriptions or tags, glitches in videos haven’t really occurred, and while still using the RGB lighting, the prominent colour for Anti has now shifted from green to red (and purple).

There is the general agreement that Anti is a virus, both electronically and biologically. Once viruses invade a system - and are successfully fought off by the system- the host becomes immune to that form of virus. Hence viruses need to evolve and mutate in order to re-infect . While considering why Anti’s appearances this time are very different I felt that this could be an explanation for the difference. 

While still using the RGB lighting, the prominent colour for Anti has now shifted to red (and purple).

Anti has evolved.

He’s better at hiding.

More undetectable.

( @fear-is-nameless @kasper-the-ghost @no-strings-puppet ) 

Did Marvin save Chase from being in Anti’s captivity?

Remember when Chase suddenly got transported to the parking garage?

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And then Marvin saw Anti and Chase together in the car when he was looking into his crystal ball?

Did Marvin Save Chase From Being In Anti’s Captivity?

What if Marvin WAS actually the one that teleported Chase hours into the future in a safer location to prevent Anti from trying to get to him?

Edit: AND TO ADD TO THAT, MARVIN IS ALSO TRYING TO DISCOVER TIME TRAVEL. HE MUST’VE FOUND A WAY TO SEND CHASE A FEW HOURS INTO THE FUTURE.

No one

Absolutely no one

Jack: ...Hi

Fandom: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN! IT'S A HINT! SIGN OF ANTI!!!!

No One

Being in the jacksepticeye, markiplier, and Thomas Sanders communities at the same time on tumblr like

JSE: zalgo text, missing egos, everything’s on fire, F E A R

Markiplier: THEDOORTHEDOORTHEDOORTHEFUCKINGDOOR WE ARE ALL DYING WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED

Thomas Sanders: ok but what other flavours of deodorant does Remus eat? Would he eat the good smelling kind or is it all just badness?

Theory: Jacksepticeye has Multiple Personality Disorder

Disclaimer; I don’t actually believe Jack is diagnosed/has this mental disorder, this is just a theory and is not meant to be taken seriously.

Multiple-Personality Disorder; A rare dissociative disorder in which two or more personalities with distinct memories and behavior patterns apparently exist in one individual, otherwise known as Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Chase Brody, Antisepticeye, Dr. Shneeplestien, Marvin the Magnificant, and Jackaboy Man. These beloved alter egos belonging to a man near and dear to all our hearts, Jacksepticeye.

Have you ever noticed how easy it is for Seán to switch between characters? Maybe he isn’t doing it on purpose. Maybe these alters are created to get him through things.

Chase Brody, fun loving and energetic, possibly an alter meant to get him through hard times

Zen good doctah, comes around when Jack decides to play games involving medical situations. Jack doesn’t know how to do these things, but Shneep thinks he does, so he takes over.

Anti, an alter who possibly acts as an embodiment of pain and the lack of control Jack feels in his life.

Marvin the Magnificent, maybe meant to give Seán that feeling of control he needs through magic.

Jackaboy Man. Meant to help Jack feel like he really is saving his fans, because I don’t know about Jack, but if a whole bunch of people said I saved their lives, I’d be worried that I would mess something up they would stop feeling better by watching me.

But yeah, that’s my theory. I know it was short, but I’m not very educated on the topic, so yeah. Hope you all like this, and remember that this is not meant to be taken seriously.

So i got a quick theory !

What If JJ jolly jaunts happened at the same time as dark silence

Hear me out

What if JJ was performing the whole show to chase's kids that's why JJ had chad with him right? Kinda explains it

So I Got A Quick Theory !

And when anti possessed JJ that's why the kids began screaming because well...it would horrifying to watch it

So I Got A Quick Theory !
So I Got A Quick Theory !
So I Got A Quick Theory !
So I Got A Quick Theory !

That's why there were kids laughter at the beginning because they were watching the begining of the show and then it turned into screams as anti got involved as we all saw in the video

So I Got A Quick Theory !

And anti has the ability to change to look of the body he possess like he kinda did to henrik in kjse..idk man

And then chase came and hell happened after

And i think we got Gen 4 of Anti

Doki Doki- Can You Figure Out Who Did It

And I Think We Got Gen 4 Of Anti

From what we observed, this Gen of Anti is more lowkey and patient than the other three. He's more indirect when speaking to us (viewers) and when he does speak, it's often in hidden places (hidden words in the sounds) and unlike the other three, this one is more Serious and fast. Gen 3 is serious, but it's exaggerated serious, it's like a tantrum. This one, is more mature kind of serious, he's still pissed, but he'll be in the background much more. His replies is less in zalgo, which means, this Gen can control his raging anger! Which means, this Phase of Anti can be more... Decieving! But he's not compose (not like Dark), but he's almost there!. This can also be seen in Chase, in there, he's just watching Chase having a mental breakdown, and his glitch is more auditory than visual

hewwo i would like to propose a system to tell the difference between antis

Gen 1, Gen 2, and Gen 3

Gen 1:

Hewwo I Would Like To Propose A System To Tell The Difference Between Antis
Hewwo I Would Like To Propose A System To Tell The Difference Between Antis

Sister Location-Say goodbye, the good ol’ OG. He has a strong Halloween and demon/poltergeist vibe to him. He’s also the most well rounded of the three. His gltches are more static bursts and scanlines, with more dark green/blue of a pallete.

Gen 2:

Hewwo I Would Like To Propose A System To Tell The Difference Between Antis
Hewwo I Would Like To Propose A System To Tell The Difference Between Antis

Detention-PAX East. Gen 2 is super bouncy and childlike compared to the other two, kind of like an upset child who’s mad over not being the parent’s favourite. Probably the most easy to tell the difference from the others because of his hair being bright green and the cuts on his throat being two small stabs around the vocal cords. His glitches are a lighter green.

Gen 3:

Hewwo I Would Like To Propose A System To Tell The Difference Between Antis
Hewwo I Would Like To Propose A System To Tell The Difference Between Antis

The plauge Games-Kill Jacksepticeye and current. Gen 3 is extremely violent and physical, and probably the most broken-voiced of all three of them. He’s the most expressive and moves around the screen more erradically as well as it being near impossible to get a clear image of him. (Like legit I tried to screenshot him for like 15 minutes the fucker is super fast). He has a large conncection to Henrik and Jack as well as Illness, attacking a body until he gains control. His throat wound is probably the largest and worst looking, as if it was poorly reopened. His glitches are erratic bursts of static and intense scanlines, as well as a dark green, dark blue, and sometimes deep purple color pallete.

Of the three I believe Jack is going to stay with Gen 3 for the story arc of the egos, as the Henrik situation seems to be current and we’ll (unfortunately) see an update on his condition soon.

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