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psa for ben fans: go vote for him again in this official starwars.com “who do you most want to see in TROS” poll. disney keeps resetting the results of it because he keeps winning by a LANDSLIDE

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TROS / Rey + Kylo Fight PT 3

“I did want to take your hand. Ben’s hand.”

Their power. I love them so much.

I don’t think Disney actually gets why everyone is so upset about Ben Solo. 

He was the first non-toxically masculine and emotionally vulnerable male character in a big movie franchise. He was a byronic hero and was a character that was written incorporating the female and queer audience. Also incorporated the men who were relentlessly ridiculed for having any amount of emotional intelligence and vulnerability growing up. He cried. He held the hand of his lover and told her that she wasn’t alone. He begged her for companionship. He was human and loving. He wasn’t a caricature “villain,” just a broken boy who was hiding behind a mask to protect himself. 

And then you kept the pew pew flyboy alive to satisfy the dudebros and killed off the actually complex and well-rounded male character. 

That is sickening. 

Reylo Kiss (Conspiracy Edit)

He wasn’t supposed to die, but Jar Jar killed him in the editing room. My clown instinct tells me so.

@Centennial_2 on Twitter pointed out how the kiss scene was edited all wrong (the hand placements are inconsistent, reversing Ben’s fall shows that Rey is pulling him up, etc.), so I cut it all up and stitched it back together the way it’s supposed to be. 🤡

Music: “Farewell” by John Williams, from TROS soundtrack (it’s the same track as in the actual scene, just not the same part of it)

Tagging @millennium-eagle @nite0wl29 @ainomica @michellestarswept @theknightdreamer

Disney Lucasfilm wants rectonning Ben Solo's story

It seems Disney Lucasfilm will retcon Ben Solo’s backround story in order to make it fit TROS.

Ben Solo never meant to die. Right before the premiere of this garbage movie, DLF released a comic called “ The Rise of Kylo Ren” in which it’s crystal clear that he doesn’t have to do anything to the Temple fire or the dead Jedi students. He even tried to help them.

It does look like Disney Lucasfilm is going to rewrite and undone everything what has been set up before the reddit fanbro TROS came out and destroyed everything. We all know JJ Abrams ignored and rewrote everything what The Last Jedi, The Force Awakens and the other canon materials set up.

Imagine this level of stupidity…It’s like someone says 2+6=94 and demands you to re-create science to make his stupid shit acceptable…jfc

In short: gaslighting

Thankfully we are not brainless idiots.

someone check on george lucas to see if he’s okay

Ben Solo who wanted to become a pilot, like the scoundrel father he so looked up to

Ben Solo who loved calligraphy 

Ben Solo who was named after Ben Kenobi, our Princess Leia’s last and only hope

Ben Solo who spent every night desperately seeking sleep to escape the voices that haunted his mind

Ben Solo who thought he could never go back to his mother, his only home

Ben Solo who was the grandson of the former Queen and the Chosen One

Ben Solo who had Royalty and Greatness flooding his veins

Ben Solo who split his spirit to the core killing his father

Ben Solo who in his loneliest moments didn’t even have ghosts to turn to, who begged his grandfather to show him the way

Ben Solo who was not the one to RISE. Who got a 10-minute “redemption” as the accessory to the girl. Ben Solo who was laying in a PIT during the action.

The last of the great Skywalkers… Ben Solo who no one mourned

in case anyone wants to send a ~strongly worded letter~ to lucas films

Almosr two decades in multiple fandoms across the world and I have never seen something like this.

I have never seen a fandom so angry, they donated to a charity to help better people’s lives.

I have never seen a fandom so angry, they just shower the actor , who did an exceptional job to bring this beautiful and tortured character to life the way I don’t think anyone else cupld, with loves and compliments.

I have never seen a fandom so angry, they made twitter trending expressing how much graditude they have for another director who did their beloved characters justice, and how impactful the story was to their life.

I have never seen a fandom that loves so passionately, they turned their anger into love like this one.

I have never seen a fandom that believes so much in the message, they literally try to win the war by saving what they love.

you can also see Daisy’s tattoo under her ear in the reshoot

This man makes me really uncomfortable with his weird obsession with Daisy Ridley and her character….this picture is quite much telling.

• In a recent interview JJ admitted he cannot separate Daisy Ridley from Rey, like can’t make any difference between the two of them.

• He took away Ben Solo’s legacy arc and gave it to Rey. He separated these characters who were set up as destinied lovers, and destroyed their romance plot

• He’s obsessed with the OT nostalgia shit. He destroyed and completely rewrote Rey’s characterization to make her OT Luke 2.0 self insert for the degenerate fanbros, to fulfill these men’s fantasy of Rey..

I don’t know, what to say…but there’s something wrong with this guy for sure

Rian Johnson,

Years ago you served our fandom in The Last Jedi. Now we beg you to help us in our struggle against tragic ending of The Rise of Skywalker. I regret that I am unable to present our request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack, and I’m afraid Kathy’s mission to bring you back on board has failed. 

We have placed information vital to the survival of Ben Solo into your hands. You must see this boy safely delivered back to his soul mate. This is our most desperate hour. 

Help us, Rian Johnson. You’re our only hope.

#he spolied the ending and we weren’t listening

Ben Solo’s Resurrection

Resurrection themes have always surrounded Kylo/Ben’s journey, and I think that his journey is not at an end. The resurrection theme is still in play and is implied in multiple ways throughout the trilogy.  

The Cross-guard Saber 

There has certainly been heavy symbolism in the design of Kylo’s saber. Cross-guard swords were designed in the Medieval times to protect the wielder’s hand. With Kylo this principle was inverted. The cross-guard saber, unlike the blade, offers no protection and only increases the danger of self-harm, and the self-harm and self-destruction have been an ongoing motif for Kylo. In some ways, the cross-guard was a sign of knights/chivalry. In this case, it was an indication of his chivalry and protection, particularly towards the lady (Rey). Now, for the purpose of this meta, the final theme of the cross-guard carries the most weight: the religious themes of the fall of Lucifer and the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. Initially Kylo represents the fallen angel who was cast out of heaven (The Jedi Temple) by God the father (Luke) and the padawans (fellow angels). At the end of the trilogy, Kylo transforms back into Ben to serve as a Christ-like figure. Palpatine throws him into the pit (the descent to hell and the harrowing of hell) and he ascends again to save Rey (sacrificing himself for the sins of his predecessors). Now that he has ascended from the Earth plane and entered purgatory (world between worlds) we start to see Dante’s Divine Comedy (purgatorio) themes. The final resurrection of Ben Solo would be a remerge of the soul, and half of it lives in Rey. The sins are being resolved/absolved in purgatory (world between worlds), and Ben’s soul will be reunited with its other half in the land of the living and then they will finally depart the earthly plane together, as a whole, and ascend back to heaven. 

The Dyad, the Cosmic Force, and the Living Force

The word “Dyad,” which is derived from the Greek dyás (δυάς) meaning “pair,” is the most basic human social group. The dyad is the absolute foundational human relationship, whether it’s husband and wife, parent and child, or teacher and student. No social group could come to exist without this foundational connection. 

The Dyad also represents the duality of nature. Light and dark, black and white, night and day, masculine and feminine. One may not exist without the other, for one only exists at the contrasting juxtaposition of the other, and vice versa. There would be no light if the darkness didn’t exist as the contrast. There would be no masculine were there no feminine to provide the contrast, etc. A dyad in the force carries the same principle; there is no balance or even the existence of the duality of the light and the dark if the two parts of the whole aren’t in coexistence. And currently, the force isn’t in balance due to half of the dyad not existing with the living force. Unless the dyad is made complete again, the living force will once again be imbalanced, this time in the light. 

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If half of the dyad is remaining with the living force, the other half also cannot become one with the cosmic force.  It will remain tethered in limbo/purgatory until reunited with its other half. Ben cannot truly pass on to become one with the force without his counterpart Rey. 

A Dyad is one being split into two corporal forms. Ben and Rey are together are “the original dyad” or otherwise known as “The Prime Jedi.” Several pieces of imagery in the movies & artwork as well as references in written cannon materials have indicated that the Prime Jedi is reincarnated once more (as Ben and Rey) and that it has chosen to bring balance to the living force once more not by coming to the living world as one being but as two halves, whose coming together will achieve the balance (Keep in mind though, the foundational darkness in the Prime Jedi is not the same as the perverted darkness created by Palpatine). 

A blatant reference to this ancient soul being reincarnated once more is made by Han Solo in The Last Shot:  “Little Ben looked up groggily, those dark eyes settling on Han, studying him. Han had no idea how a two-year-old could have such ancient eyes. It was as if Ben had been waiting around for a millennium to show up at just this moment in history.”

The directors have also alluded to this duality in Rey and Ben:  

Two sides of the same coin 

Two halves of the protagonist 

It isn’t until Ben Solo is ten years old and begins his Jedi training that the other half of The Prime Jedi is reincarnated in Rey. That Rey’s birth coincided with Ben Solo’s Jedi training is a form of “activation” by the cosmic force. Now that the journey to finding balance has begun with Ben Solo’s training, the other half of the soul is born to complete the activation. The activation is however separate from the “awakening,” which doesn’t happen until “The Force Awakens.” 

The Awakening does not occur until the souls come into close proximity with one another, which happens when Ben/Kylo lands on Jakku (for the first time in his life). This “Awakening” is preplanned by the soul to happen at a particular point in time before it chooses to be reincarnated. As soon as Kylo landed on Jakku, their fate & destiny are set in motion by Rey meeting BB-8, which subsequently leads to meeting Finn. Due to being affiliated with these two, Rey has to board the millennium falcon (which has curiously been on Jakku, waiting for her until the awakening), leading to a meeting with Han Solo, which brings her closer to her other half, Han Solo’s son Ben Solo. From following Han to Takodana, Rey finally meets her other half, a meeting that was destined to occur at that point in time. And also experiences her “call to serve” with the lightsaber vision. 

From the very beginning, cannon materials heavily imply that these two recognize each other and that they are drawn to each other. 

She had seen this man before…in a daydream. Or a nightmare.

She found herself inexplicably drawn to…to….“YOU”

The girl I’ve heard so much about 

Don’t be afraid, I feel it too 

These aren’t actual memories or recognition of each other from this incarnated lifetime. It is from cellular memory on the spiritual plane. Half of the soul recognizes the other half and has memories of the other half that transcend this life cycle. 

Since the activation occurred on Jakku, the two halves of the soul have been subconsciously and through the cosmic force seeking to be united with each other. Like magnets drawn to each other, they seek completion. The merge of the halves officially occurs when Rey and Ben enter each other’s minds. Once the merge occurs it can no longer be undone. Once the merge begins, it keeps strengthening to bring the halves to each other, which we see in their ever-strengthening bond. The merge transcends space time, eventually strengthening to the point that the halves can enter each other’s physical surroundings. 

In TLJ, we see the soul beginning to “know” the other half once more. We see Rey being drawn to the darkness and Ben being drawn to the light. 

This dynamic is drawn from Taoism (Yin and Yang), Buddhism, and Gnosticism. And the imagery littered throughout the sequel trilogy (as well as the star wars universe itself) is drawn heavily from those belief systems. We see continuous parallel shots with Rey and Ben to represent this duality. Both are presented in contrasting surroundings that represent the duality of the masculine and the feminine. In many shots half of their figure is bathed in light and the other half is bathed in the darkness. This is the process of coming to “know” the memory of the other half of the soul following the merge. 

At the end of TLJ we see the halves creating an unnatural separation between themselves, but this is folly because the separation is not sustainable and is not one that can be created through the living force, for the soul is merged through the cosmic force. The more they persist with trying to create this unnatural separation, the stronger the reaction becomes every time the separation fails. Therefore, when “the bond” reopens at the beginning of TROS, we see that it is stronger than ever. Objects can be transferred through the bond and can be activated on purpose by each other, which we see Ben doing several times in the beginning to try to reach Rey. 

This connection is as spiritual as it is romantic. As Jason Fry explained, romance is merely the analog we have in the living force for this deep spiritual bond. In the living world, the halves of the soul finds unity through romantic coupling, which is the basis for the concept of “soulmates” or “twin flames.” This is a form of bond that cannot be broken and was destined to occur due to the soul being split in order to seek completion in the physical plane. One cannot live and be happy without the other, and we see this frustration/anger in Ben at the beginning of the movie. He has become increasingly angry and thrown-off balance into darkness once more due to being separated from his soulmate. We see that Rey is also thrown off balance and regressed completely into the light due to being separated from her soulmate. Both are incredibly frustrated at this outcome and are struggling to connect with the cosmic force due to this separation. We see this struggle in Rey from the beginning when she’s meditating and try to become one with the other Jedi but cannot achieve this until she is completely merged once more with the other half of the soul (which we finally see at the end of the film). We also see Ben struggling to reach his grandfather and other predecessors on several occasions throughout the trilogy, and although we do not see it on screen, much like Rey couldn’t have defeated Palpatine without help, Ben could not have found the strength to climb out of the pit without assistance from the cosmic force. The living force between them had dwindled (equally) and the strength of the cosmic force was necessary for Ben to climb, reach the other half, and transfer the remaining living force to revive Rey. 

Now this transfer of the living force is NOT a transfer of the other half of the soul into one being. The living force is separate from the cosmic force. The soul exists in the cosmic force. Without enough living force to sustain the cosmic force of the soul in the physical plane, Ben’s soul is no longer existing in the physical plane. However, as long as the other half of the soul continues to exist in the physical plane, becoming one with the cosmic force is not a possibility for the soul that has been split in half. This is why we do not see a force ghost for Ben. He cannot become one with the cosmic force as half a soul. Only the two of them together can become one with the cosmic force. Therefore, Ben’s half of the soul is being tethered in the in-between world (the astral plane, limbo, purgatory, world between worlds, etc) by Rey’s half of the soul remaining in the physical plane, unable to become one with the cosmic force or the living force due to the living force being diminished for half of the soul. The living force must be replenished in the other half of the soul during its stay in the in-between world, remerge once more with the other half on the physical plane, and depart TOGETHER at the end of the soul’s life cycle in order to become one with the cosmic force. 

We even hear Palpatine allude to this: “Die together!” 

Halves cannot die separately. One cannot depart while the other is still alive. Additionally, the balance is once again thrown off in the living force by only half of this great cosmic force existing on the plane. Palpatine remarked that Ben and Rey’s bond is strong enough that it is a form of life in itself. By only Rey existing in the physical plane, the scale is once again tipped, this time to the light side. In order for balance to attained fully, Ben Solo must be resurrected and reunited with his other half, Rey. 

We only see Rey rising in TROS. We do not see Ben rising. “Darkness rises and light to meet it.” Conversely, if the light must rise, so must darkness to meet it in order to achieve balance. Therefore, Ben must “rise” once more in the physical plane for the cycle to be complete. 

The World Between Worlds 

In Rebels, we are introduced to the concept of “The World Between Worlds.” Although not infinite like the cosmic force, the WBW is not constrained by the laws of space time. On this plane, anything that has ever happened or will ever happen exists simultaneously, not in a linear timeline, which is how time is experienced on the physical plane. 

In Rebels, when he enters the WBW, Ezra sees Ashoka battling Darth Vader (which occurs in the past on the the linear timeline of the physical plane). In order to save Ashoka from her impending death at the final blow by Darth Vader, he pulls her through a doorway/portal which brings them both back to the physical plane, with Ashoka alive again. To clarify, the souls who have already become one with the cosmic force cannot be returned to the physical plane and the living force unless they choose to reincarnate. Only the souls who are trapped in the in-between world may be brought back by another to the living world. Those who are one with the cosmic force can return to influence the physical plane as “force ghosts,” but those who are in the in between world cannot do this. They are essentially trapped in the world between worlds until they are either merged with the cosmic force or “resurrected” in the living force. We do not see a force ghost for Ben, which indicates that he is not one with the cosmic force and is currently trapped/tethered in the world between worlds. 

Another movie that explores this higher dimension in depth is Interstellar. Cooper is drawn into a “world between worlds” or a dimension higher than the physical plane through a black hole, in which time does not exist in a linear fashion. All of the moments that have happened or will ever happen in his daughter Murph’s bedroom are organized into a tesseract system by beings of higher dimensions so that cooper (a being of only three dimensions) may influence these events and send Murph messages through manipulating gravity within her bedroom. 

Other hints or foreshadowing of Ben not being one with the cosmic force after he vanishes

“My son is alive.” -Han Solo in TFA and TROS This quote in particular is emphasized throughout the trilogy. While it means that Ben Solo can still be redeemed, like many statements in the sequel trilogy, it has a double meaning. This is also a foreshadow that Ben is still “alive.” 

“Skywalker lives! As long as he does, HOPE lives in the galaxy!” - Snoke in TLJ Many of us have noted how this “Snoke-ism” was referring to Ben, particularly because he pops into the frame as soon as the word “hope” is said. This is also another multi-meaning foreshadow. Hope cannot exist in the galaxy if Ben isn’t in the living world, reunited with his half. 

“The last Skywalker.” - Palpatine referring to Ben in The Rise of Skywalker  Although we are all rightfully disgruntled about Rey taking on the Skywalker name, the title was not meant to refer to her. Particularly when paired with Palpatine’s description of Ben as the last Skywalker, the title of the movie is rather curious. Much like many other statements, it is likely a foreshadowing of Ben’s eventual rise to complete the “Skywalker” together with Rey. 

“The Story Lives Forever.” - TROS trailer over a shot of Ben and Rey   Another foreshadowing that although the saga is ending, the characters that the trilogy is about does not end. This phrase was not put over a shot of Rey, but over both Ben AND Rey, which can only imply that their story won’t be over at the conclusion of the saga. 

“We’re not done yet.” - Kylo to Rey in TFA  A really early foreshadow that Ben and Rey aren’t “done yet.” The story is not “done yet.” 

“I’ll come back for you sweetheart, I promise.” - Rey’s dream in TFA novel  Many of us have picked up on the similarity to Han Solo in that term of endearment. It is believed in many cultures and belief systems that we enter higher dimensions in our dreams. Some claim of accessing the astral plane through their dreams. In this dream when Rey hears this, she goes looking for the person who said it and comes face to face with Ben. Ben only exists in her future in this life cycle so this was Rey being attuned to a dimension not limited by space time. And we know that even though Rey appears to be upset about Ben’s “passing,” she doesn’t seem distraught, which she absolutely would be if she started sobbing so strongly when she stabbed him on the death star. This statement was said by Ben to Rey after they kissed through their bond before he leaves her. This is why Rey is not distraught. She knows that this parting is not their end due to this assurance. 

“No one’s ever really gone.” - Luke in TLJ referring to Ben  This is another multi-meaning foreshadow that was on the surface referring to Ben’s return from the persona of Kylo Ren but is also a foreshadow about Ben not really being “gone” at the end of TROS. 

The multiple instances of healing and resurrection we see in TROS  Many are healed and resurrected both physically and spiritually: The creature, Ben Solo, Palpatine, and Rey. All of this resurrection foreshadows that the last Skywalker can also be resurrected. 

In any case, “Hope is like the Sun. If you only believe in it when you see it, you’ll never make it through the night.” -General Leia Organa 

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Kylo Ren/Ben Solo was a complex character, not a straight out “villain,” which would add meaning to the Reylo kiss if you learned to pull your head out of your backside.

Me:

His face in this scene absolutely broke me

I kept defending them. Saying they wouldn't do a dirty, that SW isn't GOT, that we should trust and have faith in their writing and in their process, that they were better writers than D&D.

They played me...a lot of us...for fools.

I'm sorry for having contributed to a false sense of hope. I just wanted to lift everyone's spirits up because I was so naive.

Now I wonder if the one feeding the leaks was a disgruntled LF employee who hated TROS and leaked it to warn the fans.

Maybe I should have heeded that warning, but I didn't want to believe it because it sounded so horrendously bad.

Unfortunately, it was a nightmare of reddit threads come to life.

I was a fool. A damned fool.

I'm sorry guys. I know a lot of you are looking to me for a glimmer of positivity, but please allow me to grieve for characters I so loved, for a franchise I grew up with. I will mainly be in twitter for now, tweeting out my thoughts there until this pain has turned into a dull ache, after I get past the other stages of grief to reach acceptance. I'll get there eventually. And hopefully be inspired to pick up the pen and write and draw again.

Still a reylo,

Me.

This is how this movie end for me.

One thing I am both grateful for and…. really upset over is that for like 10 minutes, we get Ben Solo as free as he’s ever been. And just from the like, 3 clips I’ve seen, the difference in his physicality, his expressions and his energy is so completely opposite from Kylo’s… I just want to applaud Adam for giving us that. Kylo’s every movement looked so… restrained and stiff in comparison? Like he was holding in everything that he is, putting it all away. And he looked so pained most of the time. Tried to stay as stoic as he possibly could. Seething.  But Ben? Fuckin’ wild XD. The determination, the confidence, the sass, the absolute badassery… Always grateful that we got to see that. But upset that that’s all we got… Just when we started seeing who he really is, they ripped him away. But what we did get was fucking beautiful. As this tweet so elegantly put it:

Everybody say “Thank You Adam Driver”, Who brought his A-game even in this mess.

THE WAY SHE LOOKS AT HIS LIPS ,, THEY WERE BOTH SO GENTLE BUT THEN SO HASTY LIKE OUCH MY HEART

Kylo Ren/Ben Solo's reaction to The Rise of Skywalker as told through Adam Driver gifs

Kylo in the beginning of the movie

Finding out that Rey is being trained by his mother

Every force bond moment

Kylo realizing that Rey is in his quarters

Rey rejecting his hand again

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This is how this movie end for me.

This is Ben Solo

The most interesting, compelling, wonderful Star Wars character ever - and I’ve been a fan since 1983 when I watched ROTJ in theaters at 8 years of age.

JJ Abrams and the Disney decision makers clearly had no idea what they had in this character - they clearly had no idea what audiences wanted to see for this character - they clearly have no idea what the word “hopeful” means - and they clearly don’t understand what a happy ending is, nor the fact that the final film in a NINE MOVIE SERIES THAT SPANNED OVER FOUR DECADES really should have fucking had one!

I can’t remember ever being so disappointed walking out of a theater before in my life, and all I do is watch movies...

Wow

You had hope, something Star Wars was supposed to have. 🤷🏻‍♀️

My villain origin story is knowing I gave multiple people hope™️ that TROS was going to deliver a beautiful hopeful story and then having to sit through TROS myself.

You have nothing to feel bad about when it comes to how TROS unfolded. You’ve been an incredible asset to the Reylo community, and that hasn’t changed. You were there for the people who have come to be one beautiful sort of family.

You also have every right to be as salty as you want, because as far as I’m concerned, TROS is a JOKE. Wasted potential, horrible treatment surrounding Adam Driver, and a complete disregard for story-telling.

Fair warning

I’m going to be salty as fuck about TROS for the foreseeable future (ever? Probably forever.) while still celebrating the beauty (and unnecessary painful tragedy) of Ben Solo A FUCKING LEGEND along with the beautiful love story about healing that Reylo COULD HAVE EASILY been.

I will cherry pick the shit out of the FEW “good” scenes in TROS but otherwise completely reject the narrative. I will NOT apologize for this offensive nightmare ending that destroyed the franchise.

If salt isn’t your brand of coping I can respect that and I’ll attempt to tag those posts “TROS salt”.