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i’ve said this in like multiple of my posts but cobra kai would’ve benefited from having more than 10.. im thinking 15-20 episodes in a season, with obviously better writers as well as having the run time for an episode be up to an hour or just over that.
writing this season was very buns lol. like very, the characters in ck universe deserved better than what ever the hell the writers gave them. all of them.
they try and fit so much plot into 5 episodes with said episodes only being 30-37 minutes. maybe it would’ve been fine for seasons 1 and 2. more so the earlier seasons. but they introduced so many ‘new’ characters who need good arcs and developments and also the plot.
why did they have tory have a brother if they weren’t gonna expand on that. he’s strictly used as a plot device. i genuinely forget she has a brother until it’s mentioned. the writers could’ve done so much with that if they cared enough i think.
it’s like they add shit for characters for plot and they don’t understand how to expand on it so it’s just left unanswered.
for example: made episode 5 all about tory’s mothers death.. yet in part 2 she’s only mentioned twice (none by tory herself) and we see her playing with that bottle cap from the flashback. where is her grieving, how’s her mental state? what’s going through her mind?
moving on there are so many things that could’ve been expanded on like johnny and robby’s relationship, friendships could’ve been built, relationships too. i’m not gonna just solely place blame.. they (writers) didn’t know how big ck would be in the future but still lol.
as you introduce more characters and the plot changes, surely some things would change along with that and it just hasn’t 😖
doesn’t help that writers love showing their favourites and obvious bias as well lol. for season 6 writers have just been scrambling trying to find out ways for drama to continue or just stupid plots for the story.
while i see what angle they’re aiming for .. shit could’ve been done literally so much better. as i said, with better writers.
i don’t watch enough movies or tv shows to know who to name but i’m sure plenty of writers in Hollywood would’ve been able to do a better job for sure.
like there’s way too many things that just don’t make sense, and so many things that i would change when it comes to plot, introducing new characters and the arc they would have among plenty other issues.
uhm that’s all i think.
People saying Miguel was right when he told Robby he should man up and hand him the headband, while claiming Robby was not ready and he was ruining everything MAKES ME WANNA C R Y BECAUSE HAVE ANY OF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT MAYBE (NOT MAYBE) ROBBY NEVER HAD A PERSON IN HIS LIFE WHO BELIEVED IN HIM OR ENCOURAGED HIM? SO NOW HE HAS NO IDEA HOW TO DO THAT FOR HIMSELF SO THATS WHY HE NEEDS OTHER PEOPLE TO DO THAT FOR HIM???? HUH?????HUH?????? So Instead of calling him dependent on other people (like Tory), WHY DON’T YOU START THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE NEVER HAD ANYONE ON HIS SIDE LIKE THAT SO CLEARLY HE’S GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME LETTING THAT GO!!!!! JESUS CHRIST MY KID DIDN’T GET EMOTIONALLY NEGLECTED HIS WHOLE LIFE FOR YOU ALL TO JUDGE HIM LIKE THAT I WON’T LET YOU!!!!
Shout out to the best trio with 0 screen time
Basically, Johnny replaced Robby with Miguel. Therefore he doesn't feel the need to fix his relationship with his own son, since this 'hole in his heart' has been filled by Miguel already. Robby will never actually have a place in Johnny's life. Dang my boy's always getting Ls yo
From this interview.
‘part 2 was robby’s time to shine. it’s miguel’s time now.’
‘robby’s already had his moment. it’s not the robby show.’
i beg, i need you people who are saying this to be very very serious.
some people may disagree with this but part 2 wasn’t robby’s.. at all. fighting kwon in episode 9 and then having some good moments in the brawl doesn’t cover up for how dirty he actually was done in part 2.
robby losing fights due to being thrown off because of tory and i understand that. if it happened in like one episode say episode 6 for example and he lost 2 fights.. i wouldn’t be here complaining.
it’s really jarring that it lasted over 3 episodes completely. it genuinely didn’t need to. y’all see how quick robby got it together after hearing those motivational words from miguel.. that’s truly all he needed lol.
motivational words.. words of affirmation. i’d rather they had johnny do it but miguel is fine too. that’s all he needed to get his head in the game.
insane to me that no one was actually there for him when it was crystal clear that he was struggling and having issues.. what’s worse is them knowing what the issue he’s having is.. instead of helping him out they shit talk him.
and god for fucking bid, robby fans actually want a good arc for him lol. the writers clearly and obviously don’t like robby. it’s literally in your face.
all robby fans ask for is literally just him being happy for once and him not being done dirty. but he was done dirty, yet a fucking gain and it’s just beyond annoying.
idk why they seem to think that one fight means he had his moment when it’s not. dude was thrown off balance for 3 episodes, dealing with his own shit and no one having his back on top of an unnecessary sexual assault for him?
writers obviously showcase who their favourites are. robby isn’t one of them. honestly with this season .. it just dawned on me how the writing just fully fucking declined. it went like 📉 real fast.
that writers room should have always been filled with writers who could challenge our current writers opinions.. thoughts, ones who actually care about their characters and arcs and developments, writers that actually have a LICK of fucking common sense, good ideas, good plans.
this ties into what i’ve said before but cobra kai isn’t a show where it’s just 10 episodes a season with episodes barely scraping the 40 minute mark.
with so much plot they try and fit in, for it all to actually work there should’ve been more than 10 episodes in season and an hour or over an hour episodes.
the benefits of this would be actually exploring plots FULLY, expanding on rivalries, characters development, friendships, good character arcs, relationships.. like i could go on lol.
(i don’t mean to go off topic im just very passionate about the opinions that i have.)
with part 3 leaks it’s not looking good either for robby fans.
☆ i’m gonna talk about it (the leaks ONLY for robby) from this point on and if you don’t wanna continue on this post then please click out now 😖
so part 3 leaks. lol where the hell do i even begin when it comes to robby.
alright so the tournament moves to the all valley. we know this because in ‘inside the dojo’ on netflix there’s a clip of robby kicking axel. he’s still in miyagi do fit btw.
the scoreboard had said axel has 11 points and robby has 6. so robby looses.. but axel delivers an illegal kick/hit idk to robby’s knee and he breaks it.
robby has to go into hospital and it’s said he might never be able to walk again.. what absolutely FUCKERY!
there was a video posted. it looks like for some reason they’re all in season 4 all valley cobra kai gis. like tory, miguel all in the same gis. however, robby has a brace on for his knee and fucking crutches y’all.
like what a way to completely fuck up his character. like that’s the way they want robby to go out? fucking bullshit dude. the way they emphasised multiple times on that promise with tory.
‘you and me on that podium’ and that’s definitely not gonna happen. theres leaks about other characters of course but this post is just about robby so that’s all i’ll be mentioning.
i don’t want anyone coming into my mentions saying i’m gullible or the same old ‘ y’all believe everything you see’ because when i saw part 2 leaks on reddit/tiktok. i genuinely didn’t believe anything. like i thought no way the writers would do this.. like that’s stupid. leaks ended up being right.
(just saw some new leaks, miyagi do team in the white gis. obviously speculation that they just filmed multiple things so shit wouldn’t be spoiled. god knows tbh..)
anyways, i have no hope going into part 3 at all.
lord have mercy lmao.
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cobra kai season six part two: episode six.
today i wanna talk about the big brawl.. season 6, episode 10 and the sekai taikai.. basically how eye would change some things.
this is gonna be an extremely long post .. i like to yap. clearly. so yeah.
initially, when i first watched i loved it.. but rewatching that specific scene. it’s giving lacklustre? i mean the choreography was good that’s for sure but i don’t know.. i feel like it could’ve been done so much better .. also feel like it didn’t really have to end in kwons death either.
the reason why it fell short for me and felt a bit anticlimactic was because it was just random? russian dojo came back and punched gunther in the face, everyone else started fighting.. like okay💀
the thing is there was no reason too really. (have the massive brawl breakout THAT way) a brawl is fine, but the way it was carried out isn’t. also the actual tournament way too short.
i have an idea; so gonna share it here for you all! this might be dumb but i don’t like a lot with this season 6 part 2 after initial thought. anyways here we go 😖:
start off by saying sekai taikai was too short. like a world tournament only being around 30-40 minutes. i would’ve had the episodes longer with a runtime of an hour or over an hour.
i think CK could’ve benefited from longer episodes and more episodes anyway and better writers. but i digress
each international dojo is introduced through short videos or flashbacks as the teams all join together in the arena or whatever, showcasing unique abilities and talent.
cobra kai and miyagi do both face frictions with other teams in the tournament. an aggressive and brutal dojo accuses cobra kai of being frauds who can’t live up to their intimidation tactics (blame kwon for that one, him intimidating others outside of the mat.) leads to that sort of confrontation.
miyagi-dos defense style is mocked by other dojo who sees it as way too soft. tension brews between alllll the teams. it isn’t just a cobra kai and miyagi do thing against all, all dojos have issues w each other.
several preliminary matches are shown, including standout fights featuring (sam, hawk, devon) and (tory, yoon, kwon) other cobra kai teamates deserved to be mentioned more.
tensions rise between tory and another dojos female fighter. tory isn’t balanced and dealing with the grief of her mother still. this girl from the other team is aggressive and fast. forcing tory to become the same. letting out her anger and almost gets disqualified.
johnny and daniel struggle to keep the peace between miyagi do. they’re fighting well, but not as good as they possibly could be. they’re losing a lot of matches and the team becomes completely divided. one side saying to fight aggressive; other side saying to defend
things begins to get a lil heated OUTSIDE of tournament.. rival dojos begin sabotaging each other outside the matches. a lot of street fights if you will. or just them fucking with eachother. an example: miyagi do member is ambushed completely by another dojo.
sam is targeted by a rival fighter in a dirty off the matt attack. causing noticeable, bad injuries, miguel jumps in to defend her and makes himself a target for specific dojo.
the brawl: a rival dojo manipulates tensions between miyagi do and cobra kai. possibly spreading a false rumour. like cobra kai plotting to sabotage a miyagi do fighter by injuring them with an illegal move they could disguise as not an illegal move lol.
yada, yada, yada. something happens, someone could hit someone else, the big brawl happenes!
during big brawl, tory could intervene to protect devon and takes a severe hit leaving her threatened with life changing injuries.
let’s get to kwon real quick: instead of him being an asshole and just getting killed. it’s established that kwon is one of the best fighters on the tournament. during brawl kwon gets ambushed by a jealous rival dojo or just a rival who wants to quite literally take him outta commission 😵.
kwon could also have a personality, so just not an asshole.. or not an asshole all the time , so he’s NOT a bad person and his team actually fw him.
say the ambush is so bad it triggers people from cobra kai to try and rescue him.. another way tory could get critically injured trying to protect him.
‘why tory?’ you may ask.. and why not? kwon was just introduced. it gives off more shock factor that a main character got hurt instead of him.
the impact of tory’s injury:
shock factor- tory being critically injured instead of kwon would exceed expectations.. like NO ONE could’ve seen it coming. her injury would create an emotional gut punch for characters like devon, sam, robby.
next, a full tournament arc. this would give the series time to delve into each fighting style, all the dojos. here’s how they could do it:
establish rivalries. cross-dojo friendships and betrayals .. this one could be interesting. inner team drama.
different fights during the sekai taikai:
tag team matches.
weapon kata demonstrations
survival matches
free for all battles
team relay matches
speed challenges
lastly, activities that the captains of each dojo would have to do or all the kids in the comp:
1. leadership seminar; captains are required to give speeches or participate in discussions about their dojos philosophy, training style, discipline, skills.
2. demonstration matches; captains are required to participate in matches to show their skills and set an example.
3. coaching workshop; leadership skills between the captains would be tested. captains would have to try and coach fighters from the other dojos.
as you can see if you’ve read up to this point, there’s A LOT .. i am a professional yapper. relaying back to my point. all this couldn’t fit into 5 episodes between 30-40 minutes, that’s why everything should’ve been bigger, longer.
CK doesn’t have the budget im aware so most of these are just headcannons unless someone wants to write a fic and do a whole rewrite.. which I might be up to do.. however i cant write for shit😭
uhm yeah 👌
In Season 4 when they were in the same dojo, hell, even in Season 3, I feel Robby and Tory should've had a firey rivalry fueled by hatred because like... To Robby, Tory's the bitch who attacked his girlfriend and was the main catalyst that sparked the event that practically ruined his life.
To Tory, Robby's the asshole who kicked her boyfriend off a rail and broke his spine.
Until they eventually saw eye to eye, I think Robby and Tory should've been rivals for a little bit.
i see you’re a tory fan / defender in one of of your posts (me too), so i wanna ask you- how did you find her in part 2 as well as her arc.. i wanna discuss this so bad with someone to see if anyone feels the same way i do.
i genuinely believe she was done dirty in part 2 for a pelothra of reasons. i would even go as far to argue that her character has BEEN being done dirty.
Tory’s always the best character in this show, no matter how much they butcher her arc, but it was a disappointment as you said. Her grief, her promises to her mother and need to provide for her remaining family, the driving forces behind all her choices has been sidelined for a romantic plot that don’t get me wrong, I liked because that’s the best romance written for this show, but still.
There’s no depth to her connections with her senseis or teammates and no fucking explanation of how the hell did she actually end up there. Her fights are cool, but God forbid she is shown to be better than Samantha or Zara now.
Daniel and Johnny did not care about what was going on with her, Sam, Devon and Robby made her grief about them and their team, and the bit about all of them being there for her irked me: the girl left in tears after becoming an orphan while yall handed karate headbands.
So yeah, she’s fantastic but has the possibility of being so much more if they stopped introducing rapists and useless characters during their LAST season.
Thank God fan fiction exists.
cobra kai writers you are going to hell. it’s already bad enough that hayden loser ass dismissed it and said that it wasn’t sexual assault (it is)
the fact that hayden’s grown ass had to even be told what sa is, is fucking insane. that man is literally getting his ass beat on reddit, in the comments and over 200 quotes on that post on twt.
like was there little to NO communication in that writers room? like how do you unintentionally write a sexual assault scene and then gaslight fans when they’re strictly telling you that’s what it is. like you WROTE IT THAT WAYYY?!
if they wanted to make it look like robby made a mistake. why have him drunk? why was the dialogue also weird? why make robby have multiple of that rum and coke drink? why have him say he didn’t remember shit when he woke up?
just so fucking stupid bro i cant.
and there’s fucking edits of zara and robby, but losers aren’t taking is seriously and i saw this coming from a literal mile away. mind you, it’s MEN saying this. (see screenshots below)
i feel sick to my stomach. fuck every single person defending this absolute bullshit. fuck zara malik, fuck the writers.
reason 16829 why having women in the writers room or writers that have common sense and actually care about the characters need to happen on this show. i cant bruh.
edit: i’ve been informed that 3 women had wrote the script and one woman was present in directing that episode.. all i can say is what is going on. and what type of people do they have in that fucking writers room? all they all just ignorant and dumb as hell? like i have no words at this point.
Ever since the end of season 4/beginning of season 5 the writers love to do this thing where they state Robby and Johnny are on good terms now and how Johnny is all of a sudden a good dad now, yet don't actually show us said scenes.
as always, justice for tory and robby
daniel and johnny didn't even try to talk to tory. they argue about how the other's stance regarding her fighting for captaincy made her go back to kreese but if only they could recognize that it was really because they never made any effort with her before then. if they made even one attempt to talk to her and tory clearly didn't want to hear it then they wouldn't look like they still just didn't gaf. it wouldn't look like they cared more about her allegiance as a fighter than her well-being as a young girl grieving the loss of her mother and who chose a maniac over them because he actually paid attention to her.
but there's really no hope for johnny being there for tory when he can't even do it for his own son. where's this support for robby that you speak of, johnny. we've been waiting. robby understandably doesn't have his head in the game because of tory and miguel has a right to be pissed. but miguel had to be told by johnny that robby has no other future prospects for him to stop trying to maliciously shame robby into handing over captaincy. which makes miguel seem insincere when he tells robby that he believes in him as their leader.
besides the fact that their broken relationship is still mending, i think part of the reason why johnny has such a hard time connecting with robby is because robby has always been an outcast (applies to tory as well). the dynamics johnny's character type has with underdogs, daniel + most of their students, are pretty straightforward. johnny and miguel have a natural back and forth with each other, but with robby it's more complex, and johnny doesn't do well with complexity. so unless johnny makes the effort to really try and understand him robby will always feel 2nd to miguel. unfortunately with johnny's track record it's not looking good
i'm not gonna lie i found this scene so cute 🥺
Cobra Kai Dynamics: Robby Keene and Tory Nichols
It would be nice to stand on that podium. Side by side for the entire world to see. Let’s make a deal. No matter what, we stick together, and we win the Sekai Taikai. Just you and me.
I feel like so much of Robby’s insecurity this season was coming not just from splitting up with Tory but from the realization that she doesn’t trust him the way he trusts her.
Robby and Tory are the characters who have been through the most shit and a lot of the same shit. They have the most trust issues but Robby keeps giving his heart to people, he can’t help himself, and Tory doesn’t.
However, she’s the first person in a long time that he trusts completely, she understands him and he thinks she trusts him too. The final straw for his confidence is realizing that isn’t the case.
Tory not trusting him when he trusts her so much and has put so much weight on that being the foundation of their relationship, one of the lost important relationships in his life, just completely shatters Robby’s views of himself.
She keeps him out of so many important moments in her life and while that’s clearly a result of her own trauma I think it brings up a lot of feelings for him that make him really doubt himself. Specifically after having that conversation where Tory breaks things off and Robby is clearly very hurt by the fact that Tory didn’t come to him when she needed help.
It shakes his confidence in this very important relationship and in himself just in time for the start of the Sekai Taikai and drags up all his insecurities.
The biggest issue with part 1 and part 2 is how they use plots that require follow through, and yet they never do.
So, Tory left her underaged brother alone a week or two after their mom died and just flew off?? Do the writers even remember there's a little brother depending on her?
And now we have everyone having watched a kid die... Are they just gonna be okay?
And I can never forget about Robby. The kid who grew up with alcoholic parents, he kept watching his mom flirting and depending on different men every week, and we just brushed it all with him moving with the Larussos.
Now, he drinks for the first time, and he drinks so much, he blacks out and someone takes advantage of him. I doubt we're gonna bring that up though.
I understand this is a karate show. But some problems require talking.
PLEASE LET THE PEOPLE TALK THROUGH THEIR FEELINGS
And I get the grownups are set in their ways and won't resolve any issues.
But you make every kid ready and willing to speak to Tory but somehow they don't talk, no one apologizes to Kenny or Devon, they just move forward, Demetri keeps talking but never says anything. Even the new guy Axel would benefit from just discussing his issues.
I need people to write fanfiction about Yoon and Tory's friendship
They gave us crumbs and I need more!!
Where's the fic where Yoon is showing her around his dojo? Where's the fic he brings her food when she misses dinner time?
I need someone who has Korean knowledge to write them teaching each other more about their culture.
I want Tory telling Yoon that kwon is a little bitch for stealing his captaincy and that he's just as good.
Give me a fic where kreese and Kim realize that Yoon and Tory work great together
Just give me their friendship please 🙏🥺
“She wasn’t forcing him in any way” YOU chose to show Robby so drunk he couldn’t talk and could barely stand. YOU chose to show Robby come out of that room and say he couldn’t remember what happened. YOU chose to show him stand there like a zombie unresponsive while she kissed him and then stumble away like he didn’t know what planet he was on. YOU chose to depict a situation where one party so obviously could not consent, and the other was acutely aware of that fact. Stop playing fucking dumb and admit you’re a pathetic rape apologist and move the fuck on.
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cobra kai season 6 part 2: episode 8.
THANK YOU DEVON
"They're worried about you" THEN WHY DID NO ONE GO AFTER HER?! WHY DIDNT YOU GO AFTER HER DEVON 😭😭😭
"I thought we were friends, you could've come to me" WELL WHY DIDNT YOU GO TO HER WHEN SHE LEFT?!
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y’all i cant even begin to express my disgust with the way people are talking about zara sexually assaulting robby.
‘robby fumbled’ why would he chose the girl that sa him over his girlfriend.. he doesn’t even KNOW zara bro?
‘i can’t believe he would chose zara over tory?’. this is giving ‘we’re cobra kai fans, we don’t watch our own show!!’
there’s a whole page on tiktok dedicated to robby and zara, edits of them on youtube/ tiktok? we’ve absolutely lost the fucking plot.
this why i hate cobra kai fanboys, cs this bullshit has them comparing looks between the actresses. rayna is absolutely beautiful and so is peyton.
they’ve been absolutely disgusting with the way i’ve seen them talk about peytons looks. the fandom truly disgusts me to the fucking core.
and that’s why i cant wait until cobra kai ends so those losers just fuck off elsewhere.. cs they irk a deep DEEP part of my soul.
I am on my knees crying begging and pleading with these writers to leave Robby alone