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If we could stop using the word "cheated" to describe the Robby/Zara situation when it was straight up SA, that would be great!
This wasn't fling/hookup/one night stand. It was assault.
That's a fact
He was drunk, couldn't consent to what he was doing. He doesn't remember a thing.
But she does. She knew what she was doing and didn't care. She took advantage of him in his drunken state.
To the people who say it wasn't and that he got lucky cause you think she's hot, you people wouldn't be saying this if it was the other way around.
I was surprised by the lack of empathy that miyagi do had most of part 2 (mostly to robby). They are supossed to be good and a team, but they did not show that until the last two episodes. I don't know if it was poor writing, or what, but their behaviour towards their own teammates was shitty and backstabbing.
Me because the writers will never let robby and tory win against miguel & sam đ
also me because at least we saw tory & robby humble zara & kwon âźď¸đđ˝đŁ
Mary Mouser and Tanner Buchanan deserve the biggest apologies from the Cobra Kai fandom... the way people constantly hate on them for no good reason is disgusting.
Mary gained weight due to diabetes. And even if it was for another reason, why do people care so much? She's still just as stunningly beautiful as she was before and it clearly has not affected her ability to portray a karate student. Calling her "Ham" is not funny. It's not original. It doesn't make you look cool. It's immensely childish behavior and makes me ashamed to be a part of this fandom. None of the jokes concerning the way she looks are in any way entertaining or funny, but for some reason they're under every post about Mary or Sam. It's sad how hateful people like that have managed to bully a sweet, kind person like Mary Mouser into posting less off of herself in the internet.
Tanner has a style. He wears certain clothes that aren't considered "masculine" and sometimes he wears makeup. So what? You don't know him, his clothing should not matter to you. The way he dresses does not immediately mean he's gay. But again, if he was, why do people care so much? Let him express himself the way he wants to without flooding his comments with insults. Just like with the comments about Mary, calling Tanner gay like it's a bad thing and making nasty remarks about the way he looks is not funny. They're not in any way necessary. They make you look immature and overall like an extremely unpleasant person.
CK S6 Part 2 Spoilers
Hi, I just want to vent about the brawl. This is a rant so, be warned.
So we all agree Tory will end up winning this tournament out of pity right?
Cause I'm sorry, but the show just stablished she needed Robby to save her from Zara and Sam to save her from the other Iron Dragons guy.
She needed to be fucking saved. TWICE. Instead of idk, having her get the glory for more than one hit?
So basically they are telling us "Tory will win, but that's cause Sam will not compete" since there's a leak saying she will be so torn cause of the death (that I'm still processing) she will abandon karate all together.
And people have the audacity to say the writers prefer Tory.
No, they don't.
Giving her a storyline and doing this is not liking the character.
They are saying Tory will never beat Sam no matter what she does, she can train whatever style she wants with whatever sensei she wants, but Sam and the power of Miyagi Do will always come out on top.
She had the BEST motivation, the best reason to win, and she will most likely, but not out of merit, she will win and again there will be this cast of doubt of "but what if Sam continued?"
Cause she can never beat Sam, no matter what. Sam is the writers favorite, even without storyline they will never let her have a clear loss against Tory.
Have I said I hate this season already?
fight choreo between zara and tory that was cut ?!?!
sorry im really pissed this was cut because it couldâve showcased toryâs improvement of her skills and her being able to hold her own.
+ i did like the scene between zara and tory but it was shortlived , and the fight scenes we got with tory in the big brawl was a bit of her ass getting beat.
i wish they showed more tory fighting in the brawl and this choreography wouldâve ATEđ nah this pmo man.
this is not me bitching and moaning.. just wish we had really cool fighting scenes with tory in the big brawl. but i DO get that not everything couldâve made it.. but still đ
In a much more serious note, lord knows what happened between Zara and Robby, but Robby did not cheat, he was taken advantage of. And of course the series will never outright say it was that way even after clearly showing Robby wasn't in his five senses. Sure, it's realistic for vĂctims to feel like they had any responsibility of what happened to them like Robby did when he blamed himself for it, but knowing Cobra Kai? I'm sure he said that because the writers wanted to frame it as Robby cheating on Tory to create conflict and nothing more.
I'm so glad so many people are pointing this out too. And dont even get me started about Robby drinking man. The issues of a child who barely knew a life where his parents were completely sober from drugs or alcohol are complex, and the possibility of Robby turning to alcohol as a coping mechanism isn't nonexistent, but they be writing these dialogue and story points LIKE THEY MEAN NOTHING.
Everything just left such a sour taste in my mouth, what are they doing
Thereâs probably going to be some down time at the beginning of part 3 before the story picks up speed again, so hopefully Robby will have some time to be able to talk to Tory (or anyone) about what happened with Zara because we cannot end the show with Tory believing Robby cheated and Robby having even more trauma that he has to keep inside
all robby needed was some actual words of affirmation and for someone to believe in him for him to actually focus.
at the start, EVERYONE clocks that robby might not be okay. miguel says ârobby is gonna be fineâ ,, demetri responds with âi wouldnât be fineâ and shit heâs right because i wouldnât be fine either. iâd be in a shambles đ
in the hotel room, where theyâre yapping about robby with no shame knowing heâs in the room WITH them just taking a shower and talking about his performance. they KNOW what the issue is.
but noooo instead of being good friends / teammates weâre gonna shit talk him, and not be there for him.
it was OBVIOUS what the issue was, LIKE SEE-THROUGH, GLASS, VERY CLEAR. like after watching that shit you canât tell me that people in miyagi do actually gaf about him. poor dude was obviously not okay and struggling but instead, people taking slick ass jabs at him, yapping and bitching and moaning about a captain title.. instead of simply being there for him.
to further emphasise on that letâs talk about bar scene.. robby in that bar, sam left. but his team WAS there. youâre telling me that they all just left knowing damn well robby still in that fucking bar drinking up a storm. more so, how could they NOT know?? and people expect me to believe they CARE?
maybe in another universe, not this one.
i said this before but it took miguel way too long to apologise to robby + ask whatâs wrong. robby just got done dirty over and over again in this part.
i was expecting robby to be unbalanced becasue of tory, i was thinking it wouldâve happened maybe twice? but it was literally annoying continuous. it pissed me off actually.
like no one believes in him, girlfriend put him on break, gets SAâd, doing terribly in fights, what the fuck man?
i was gonna add johnny in this and say that johnny shouldâve picked up on it but he cares more about devon, miguel than his actual son.
FATHER OF THE YEAR !! #whatajoke
part 2 did robby keene incredibly dirty. part 3, is kinda looking promised.. i saw that clip of robby kicking axel in: inside the dojo on netflix đ
please ck writers do this one thing and maybe robby keene winđ
edit: miguel was not giving him tough love. HE WAS BEING AN ASSHOLE! get off miguel dick for ONCE and call out bad behaviour when you see it. if anything, miguel making him doubt if he deserves to be captain on top of kwon fucking with him AND him being unbalanced becasue of tory..
miguel mightâve just made shit WORSE. yâall itâs a full time job defending robby keene im telling you. im TIRED đđ
i love robby, i truly do but something that kinda annoyed me is when he was talking to tory and was like âwe all wouldâve been there for you, i wouldâve been there for you.â
you .. werenât though đ
when your girlfriend left the dojo having a breakdown about the death of her mother, you didnât follow her out. matter of fact you stayed in the dojo didnât give a single shit about her.
like sir, letâs not lie now !
like if tory has enough sense in season 4 to clock that robby looked out if it and followed him after he lost the AVT, why didnât robby do the same thing for her?
also idk why they keep on listening to tory when she says â i cant do this right nowâ or âi need spaceâ actively continuing to push them away, yâall need to SHOW instead of just SAYING youâre gonna be there for her so she ACTUALLY gets it.
idk if any of this even makes sense but yeah
like im sorry if that was my friend, iâd be there for her every chance i get even if sheâs just pushing people away, thatâs just me đ¤ˇââď¸
itâs clear as day that the writers donât care about robby and tory being abused. if it was miguel it woulda been called out for sure, willing to bet, but if tory is forced to punch through stone and is hit by an adult thatâs just to âshow her strengthâ and if robby is saâd thatâs just a girl coming after toryâs boyfriend
funny how people are trying to blame sam for how axel is acting
like damn all the girl did was be nice to him, have a conversation with him and dude started being weird for no reason đ
talking about some âshe led him onâ HOWWW????
like at this point yâall just saying anything and making up shit to provoke hate for her.
Peyton List as Tory Nichols in Season 6 (part ii) of Cobra Kai
Leadership is not tearing your fucking captain down when he is at his lowest knowing well enough that his loss means yours as well. I can already see all the comments saying Miguel should have been captain but I think that scene alone proved the contrary. I understand both ways and I know it was probably really frustrating how unfocused Robby was at first, but everyone was blaming him and just one good word from ANYONE could have been enough to at least not tear him down completely and everyone failed at that.
tory and robby âi love youâ scene and marriage WHENNN?? GIVE IT TO ME.
cant believe i have to wait 89 days, 3 MONTHS till i finally get my keenry love confession.
RAHHHH i need it now.
this definitely my fav keenry scene in part 2, like the lighting, the scenery, THEM. the holding of hands AHHHHH DJDKSK, FISH behind em!! like yâall đŤ
also need my babies to win sekai taikai, on different teams but on that podium TOGETHER. THAT PROMISE NEEDS TO COME TRUE!
âyou and me. we stick together and win the sekai taikai.â
i hate that i only discovered cobra kai this year on its last season.. over a few months iâve just fell in love with the show completely.
excited for part 3, but realising when that drops cobra kai ends is a weird feeling. also a feeling i cant describe because it just feels weird?!
i fell in love with the characters the cast. itâs all just crazy lol.
sidenote: considering sekai taikai will probably be over in like one or two episodes max, i hope we get the couples finally able to be couples.
kinda forget that theyâre all gonna have trauma and be scarred for life becasue of kwons death đŤ
regardless, i hope they end cobra kai off beautifully.
ROBBY KEENE AND TORY NICHOLS IN COBRA KAI SEASON 6 PART 2
Tory calling Robby an idiot and a dumbass... and then both of them calling the people who tried to ruin their relationship "bitch"..... oh keenry how I've missed you!!!!
and i hate that the show is never gonna address robbyâs SA. theyâre gonna brush over it like nothing happened as if weâre stupid or something.
robby was drunk as fuck and didnât give consent at all, and theyâre sick for trying to push it as robby âcheatingâ when itâs clearly not what that is.. AT ALL.
the show isnât gonna address it, and the people who are watching the show, the viewers, are making excuses for zara, saying that it didnât happen (are yâall blind?) that robby should be lucky, âitâs fine cause zara is hotâ
itâs truly disgusting and disturbing. itâs all really nasty. i hate how when she kissed him after leaving her room he literally looked so lost, numb and you could tell he was completely out of it.
plastering it as a âhook-upâ or âcheatingâ is nuts when the show clearly implied it as SA. itâs not taken seriously in the show, and a whole group of people are not taking it seriously as well.
if you donât think itâs SA, im gonna assume youâre dumb or dense, didnât pay attention or just realise itâs SA but you donât give a shit.
im so sorry that *these* are your writers robby keene.
(thereâs so much more i wanna say about how robbyâs character was done incredibly dirty in part 2 but i feel like this rant was necessary instead of discussing everything as a whole.)
People keep using the word "cheating" for the Robby/Tory/Zara storyline... And um... When someone is that drunk to not remember anything, and other person is not... I don't think the right word is "cheating".
in my head and since the show didnât show it yoon and tory are besties! the way he was so happy for her omg :))
i wish we got tory actually having at least ONE genuine friendship with someone in her team. shame we didnât get that tbh.
already seen way too many losers on that tiktok app being like ârobby fumbledâ , âhe hit thatâ etc..
i hate the men in this fanbase becasue I KNEW this was how they were gonna act in reaction to zara literally taking advantage of robby. i truly canât stand them.
really need to see zara get her shit fucked up, want it to be brutal and bloody.. TORY YOU GOT THAT????
february 13th, i will be there.
the binary bastards really pissed me the fuck off in part 2. it was more so just demetri loser ass then birdshit climbed up there with him.. with the weird ass judging towards kenny.
demetri shouldâve NEVER went to the sekai taikai bro heâs so ass, cheated on his girlfriend, now heâs girlfriendless, bad at karate, annoying.. PICK A STRUGGLE DEMETRI.
birdshit and that annoying ass mohawk too, i could never take his dumb ass seriously with that. only good thing fauxhawk did was tell d*metri to stfu in that locker room AND accidentally expose demetri loser ass for cheating.
cobra kai is literally so unserious because why they have daniel get kidnapped and locked in a cage with some dogs??đđđ
like that shit was funny as hellđ
Cobra Kai is a show
Smth smth about Robby growing up watching his mom getting high and drunk out of her mind and bring home skeevy guys to sleep with. Of seeing Sam drunk and kiss Miguel and getting so angry because he thought Miguel took advantage of her. Of him being sad and discouraged and so completely alone and getting drunk for the first time in his life. Of him being so wasted he couldnât even string a sentence togetherâcouldnât even utter a single wordâin response to Kwon. Of Zara eyeing all this happen. Of him waking up the next day, stumbling out of a hotel room thatâs not his looking completely out of it and confused and saying he âcanât remember what happened.â Of Zara kissing him while he stands there numb and unresponsive until he stumbles off, still looking lost and sad and barely aware of his surroundings. Smth smth all of. That.
Sooo is no one gonna talk about how robby was literally assaulted ?? They better talk about this in part 3 istg. Also, why did no question why robby was not with the team ?? And how did no one notice he was drunk ?? Also, how didn't sam notice ? He told her that he was gonna probably drink. i don't understand why she didn't she check on him ?? đ Their probably going to brush past this in part 3, and i don't like how it seemed like robby cheated when again he was assaulted ?
itâs actually fmu how both captains of iron dragons are just massive weirdos!
axel: you and sam had one conversation, now youâre being weird and mean mugging miguel for no reason? grow up. idk why he acting like miguel did him something ? the fuck wrong w him?
zara: taking advantage of robby. just a weird bitch in general? doing allat to make tory jealous.. just absolutely nasty.
cant wait to see em both go DOWNNN in part 3.
People saying that Zara is best girl and such a babe... Have we watch the same part 2??
If Kwon was made to be a psycho lost cause then she was definitely made to be a psycho prick...
She literally SA Robby, she took advantage of him when he was drunk, like WTF!!
And no hate to Rayna. Please, we all can separate actors from characters.
I'm talking about the script here... She was not best girl, she wasn't even a good character...