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Happy five year anniversary of Catradora! This is a holiday for me.
it's been 5 years since they became canon and I'm emotional over it!!ššš«¶
Five years ago on this day, a certain ship from kids cartoon that I love named Catradora became canon and kissed and saved their whole goddamn universe. And I don't think anything in any peice of queer media has hit me the same way since then. It still fills me with warmth and happiness just as it did all those years ago.
Catradora isn't just two girls from this really well written show that got together at the end. It's a testament to what stories in our modern age can be capable of doing, the stories they are capable of telling.
Yes, that has come with some caveats, how the creators of these stories are treated like dogshit by the powers that be, as well as 'certain' parts of their audience, not to mention the corporations owning these stories force their queerness into their rainbow capitalisc assimilationist horsecrap. But even still... just seeing how Catradora makes other people feel, how other people have been able to discover themselves because of them tells me that they have a power that no corporate suit will ever understand.
Catra is literally my transition goals for instance and I see so many people identify themselves as an "Adora" or a "Catra" kinnie. Their stories have helped people feel seen and be okay with themselves in a way I haven't seen so openly possible for a long time.
As for myself... Catradora has been there for me for every rough spot I've had the last few years. That no matter what, they give me some comfort. I've seen a lot of drama and bs in the She-Ra fandom, the likes of which I know drove some people away... but I am still here, because my love for these two dorks will always be there. If everyone in the Catradora fandom was to just give up and go to another fandom somewhere else, I would still be here. I would literally be the only Catradora girl alive if that were possible.
I know that in my personal expereince that I've made a lot of mistakes in my time in the fandom. Since I've been off my main social media places a lot the last few months, it's given me a time to think on how toxic and cynical I could be at times, how sometimes I'd make terrible mistakes that would make some people uncomfortable or how toxic some She-Ra fandom spaces were. This is not a callout post by the way, I don't do that kind of thing.
I don't expect everyone to forgive me for some of the things I've done in the past or things I've said. As much as I would want nothing more than to make ammends for anything I've said or done that's warranted any reputation I might have, I realise I can't force people to change. Adora didn't force Catra to change after all, she did it of her own volition and Adora's freinds likewise accepted Catra because they wanted to, not because Catra forced them to.
But I will say this... I am genuinely sorry for everything. For any conversations or ideas I might have worded badly that made people uncomfortable, for going on giant long cynical rants and vents because I was in a bad place, for all of that. I am truly sorry and I hope that I can at least be friends with some of you again.
And while I was only an observer for a lot of the other She-Ra fandom drama, I am sorry to everyone who left the fandom because of that too. I am so goddamn sorry that a bunch of sometimes justified internet drama and arguements caused you to no longer enjoy a beautiful series like She-Ra. I am sorry people did racist shit to Catra that made POC in the fandom deeply uncomfortable, I am sorry that so many people rallied behind good ships like Glimmadora and Entrapdak to harass Catradora stans because of the internet media ilteracy that trained them to hate Catra. I am sorry that these last five years haven't exactly been the best for a lot of you and I know that I alone can't exactly do much to fix that.
But what am I going to do? I'm going to try and keep being postive and making things that I at least hope make someone happy, that put a smile on someone's face. I have over 200 fics about Catradora alone posted on AO3 and probably much, much more planned in the future. Heck, the day this goes up, I'll be FINALLY properly making a start on the big post-canon She-Ra series I've always wanted to write.
I want to try and be a beacon of hope and positivty for anyone who visits my pages. I was told by I think @catras-breakup-song and @witch-apologist that I have somewhat of a repuation for being a nice blog that shows up in people's feeds on here and I hope I can still be that for another five years.
Catradora are in a way... an inspiration to me. Creatively, by writing tons of stories about them. And for their happiness giving me such hope on the days I feel so dark.
So here's to the next five, hell, next TEN years, because hey, if Korrasami can keep people going for ten years, Catradora most certainly can!
May Catradora and everything about She-Ra keep you happy for a good long time, my friends. I hope to see some of you again soon.
not trying to be discourse-y on herebut catraās gender presentation is key to her character arc and i wish people would look outside of the femme fatale associated s4 outfit and her facade
What kills me the most about the chipped Catra scene is that her hair is chopped short and her hair is slicked back, still wet. That means Adora got there like RIGHT after it happened. The time it must have taken to actually put the chip in was short based off of how quick they could get people on Etheria chipped, but like they had to prep her by cutting her mane back which we never see before even as a kid. Like even Shadow never resorted to that and lorde knows she was a basket case. They did all this prep work just getting Catra more and more worked up as they went, cutting her hair, stripping her of all of her items and probably her clothes too if I had to guess, before finally chipping her and throwing her into the pool. But like if Adora had been there maybe an hour faster she couldāve saved her from it all and I just KNOW she thinks about that daily.
I just KNOW she cries and begs Catra to forgive her and Catra holds her and tells her she has nothing to forgive and itās over now and Adora feels even more guilty for being held over Catraās trauma, but Catra doesnāt care because itās always been the two of them and she takes care of Adora now, just like Adora always took care of her.
Looking at utenanthy official art, I love how genuinely happy Anthy is portrayed in art that is meant to be post-anime.
Look at how happy she is!! Another notable detail is that she tends to be more in control in comparison to her art with utena as the rose bride (I mean, that's a bit obvious considering she was the rose bride but I still feel the need to point it out)
She is held (damsel in distress style) by utena, who looks to be more in control and still has the prince mentality. (not all the art before the ending is like this, but a lot of it is). So it makes me really happy to see a genuinely happy and free anthy be more in control. They're in love!! They're free and they're happy!!
This post doesn't bring anything new to the table and I'm guessing this has been pointed out a million times before, but I want to gush about 90s anime lesbians. I love them dearly. Did you know they changed my life forever.
i think itās really funny that my favorite show is she-ra. i wear heavy black eyeliner, leather, combat boots, and generally dress alternatively. then you ask what my favorite show is and iām like āthe sparkly lesbian princess cartoon!ā and i wonāt have it any other way.
thinkin about s4 catra and how her outfit changed and a big part of it is that black sleeve on the same arm that was black when she was corrupted. and i wonder if it was like some kind of operant conditioning she was imposing on herself, just having a constant reminder always right there in her face of the fact she knew she'd gone way too far when she freaked out and fcked up bad several times during the whole portal ordeal. after all that, there's no going back, and she'd ruined any hope of even considering other options. so anytime she might even let the thought of it flit across her mind, it'd help force her to bury it immediately and help her keep it that way -
- cause there's no chance of her having any other life now - and partly cause she firmly believes adora is done with her to the point of hatred, cause why wouldn't she be when catra's already there w herself at that point? but trying hard af not to let that or any other vulnerability show, and tryna adjust to looking at a life of wearing a mask. cause she'd made her choice, and now she had to live with it, and she was literally just trying to figure out how to do that.
The core of Catra and Adriaās relationship is that they value each other more than any mistake the other could or did make. Something about seeing that kind of forgiveness and grace in a context that very clearly parallels ex Christian experiences rewires my brain.
first off i wanna preface this by saying that iām not actually a trans man/masc, but i had an experience with my mother in high school that i think definitely relates.
so i come from a super conservative fundamentalist christian household. like my mother has a fake ass degree in christian apologetics (if you donāt know what that is, you donāt wanna know) and helped found some crazy christian mom podcast dedicated to teaching parents how to āprotectā their kids from secular culture. you know the type.
when i was 14 i was forced to come out as a lesbian. my parents completely freaked out and put me through fucking hell because of it. (i wonāt go into details bc it doesnāt relate to this specific story but it was like. conversion therapy type shit. i was super isolated too, i wasnāt allowed outside the house except to go to my private christian school and they took my phone away)
anyway my mom is obviously super into conservative bullshit in general, but that summer she got ESPECIALLY into anti trans rhetoric, in particular anti trans masculinity rhetoric. i donāt think people realize how big this is, specifically in fundamentalist christian circles. they run with this idea of āthe left is confusing young girls!! theyāre targeting and preying on young girls into thinking that they can be men! theyāre demonizing godly christian femininity!ā and this idea gains fucking traction in these communities. for exactly the reason that you think that it does.
my mom made me go with her to some stupid conference, and there was this lady there who gave this awful speech on all trans men are really just confused, young, impressionable girls who need to embrace their god-ordained christian womanhood. iāve been to many events like this one and heard a lot of bullshit but to this day i think that was the worst one. my blood fucking boils just remembering it.
at some point i couldnāt fucking take hearing that lady talk anymore bc i was fighting tears and shaking with rage and ran off into the bathroom. iām not a trans man/masc, but iām queer and oh i donāt know a fucking HUMAN, and my 14 year old self couldnāt take hearing that anymore. my mom found me in the bathroom and made a scene about it later.
i donāt know if it was that incident or if perhaps my mom thought so before and thatās why she dragged me to the conference, but she was incredibly strict with how i could dress and present myself from that point onward. all my life sheās been strict about what i could wear, but before then it was very much in a modesty-focused way. like, no short skirts, no tops that showed off my figure, no bikinis, no crop tops, etc. that all changed suddenly. suddenly i was forced to wear dresses, flattering tops, anything that looked stereotypically āfeminineā. this drove me fucking crazy bc i donāt feel comfortable presenting myself super femininely. i donāt really usually present myself overtly masculinely either, but i definitely donāt like to be perceived as feminine.
even at the age of 14 i knew that my mother wanted control. she wanted power of my body, my sexuality, the clothes i wore, and even the fucking thoughts in my head. which really is just the same as the rest of the fundamentalist christian right.
The way mothers allow themselves to treat their daughters is already fucked up enough but when their kid is a trans man/masc it just gets so much worse. Iām literally not allowed baggy clothes, the simple and normal act of wearing baggy clothes, which is banned for me in particular because they donāt āframe my figure.ā I should only be wearing clothes that cling to my body and show off my hips, and this is because my mum has some weird idea that if my āfeminine formā isnāt on show at all times, I will turn into a masculine weirdo because Iāve already expressed my transness to her before and sheās doing everything in her power to stop it, and therefore Iām not even allowed the option of wearing baggy, loose fitted clothing. This is such a small example of the long list of things Iām not allowed to do in order to keep me from transitioning, but even something that small is incredibly fucked up to me because the level of control in forcing me to wear clothes that show off my āfemaleā body to snuff out any masculinity is 100 times worse when you throw in the fucking immeasurable, painful dysphoria that I have to deal with by walking outside in clothes that basically have a neon sign over them telling people to look at the least favourite parts of my body.
And this is apparently normal, because mothers just want their daughters to be proud of who they are. And if those ādaughtersā happen to be trans men, itās only in their best interest to detransition them back into daughters. Or whatever the fuck excuse weāve given to them to treat their kids this way.
every now and again i just have to reflect on how fucking traumatic catraās chipping process mustāve been. like this girl didnāt need ANY more trauma in general, but especially not any more trauma relating to losing control of herself. sheās already had so much taken from her, and she already felt so alone and unloved. she was so sure that adora wouldnāt come back for her, that she would die there all alone, just hoping that her sacrifice meant something to adora :(((
not to mention that horde prime electrocuted her in that baptismal pool, the same punishment that shadow weaver tortured catra with all of her life.
the pseudo-religious implications of catraās chipping process tooā¦
UGH THIS SHOW ITS GONNA FUCKING KILL ME
THIS THIS THIS
watching arcane s2 completely fumble jinxās arc genuinely made me so so upset, iām still fucking mad about it honestly
I think I took for granted how good She-Ra is. Like it is a MIRACLE that a show like this exists, you know?
Idk, watching the Arcane finale and seeing it fumble the things it set up for itself in season 1, ditching complex and complete set-ups and pay-offs for cheap parallels that donāt always make sense; it made me realize how fucking lucky we got with spop.
There are a lot of incredible things about the show, about how pretty much every character in the show is queer, how trauma is represented, complex themes interweaved beautifully in a TV-7 rating show.
BUT
I feel like we as a ~ society donāt talk enough about the set-ups and pay-offs in the show. The fact that nothing in the show comes out of left field and how every piece of dialogue serves a function and sets the characters up. The characters in spop will never act out of character for a line, or to further the plot. Their consistency is incredible.
Letās take Jinx and Catra for example. Jinx has complex mental health issues that were at the center of everything in szn 1, so she had a lot of symptoms and she was able to be messy and frustrating and realistic in her disorder. Then szn 2 came around and somehow her symptoms are mostly cured - which ok, we can chalk that up to Ishaās presence in her life, which yeah, her hallucinatory symptoms partly come back when Isha goes missing. Although, this would mean that theyāre setting up that if Isha is not in Jinxās life, then her symptoms would come back full force no?
Isha dies and there is absolutely nothing that pays off in terms of this little set up they did. Jinx becomes suicidal, but her other, more complex, more āable to ruin plot plansā symptoms disappear in its entirety. This is a character whose complexity is determined by what the plot needs to do.
Catra also has complex mental issues, and those NEVER go away for the sake of plot expediency, in fact, the plot baked Adora and Catraās conflict in the center of it all from the very beginning. This means that Catra gets to act realistically all throughout the show and that furthers the plot. Catra doesnāt get rescued and all of a sudden her trauma goes away for the sake of redeeming her faster. Catra has not been healed at the end of the show, she is beginning to heal. She is allowed to explore the depths of her trauma and symptoms and instead of speeding through it, the show says - here, go down to rock bottom, get rescued and be unable to say thank you, get re-triggered by your abuser and run away at the very end of the show. And also, here are some characters that will call you out on your behavior, here is an emotional support animal, here, the person you love and have pushed away from, never hated you!! Her healing always feels like itās a deliberate choice from Catra bc of what tools the show is giving her, not bc the plot needs to move forward now.
And in terms of set-ups and pay-offs. I meanā¦. Itās actually nuts. Charactersā dialogues literally bake themselves into other characters. Shadow Weaver tells Adora āCatra distracts you, confuses youā and Adora later tells Bow and Glimmer (after calling SW out btw) āI am distracted and confused and I cant be any of those things if this is going to workā which creates the final moments of the show.
Angella tells Adora ātake care of each otherā and Adora internalizes it as āI have to take care of Glimmerā bc of her trauma, and that leads her to be very controlling with Glimmer, which creates conflict in their relationship, which creates the heart of Etheria situation, which creates the Horde Prime situation.
SW tells Catra that she abused her bc Catra reminded her of herself. In that same episode, where SWās past is explored, they both say āit doesnāt matter what I do, my authority figure doesnāt trust meā, we can see how Catra begins to emulate SWās authority style throughout the show.
The show starts with SW telling Adora āisnāt this what youāve wanted since you were old enough to want anything?ā and it ends with Catra asking her āwhat do you want, Adora?ā which sets up the conclusion of Adoraās entire arc.
Even little things, like Entrapta telling Wrong Hordak itās ok to make facial expressions and Wrong Hordak being animated copying characterās facial expressions for practice after that.
ITS JUST SO GOOD THE WRITING IN THIS SHOW IS RIDICULOUS.
i love alice madness returns so much āāĖ.ā
i actually could rant about it forever
i've been copying my daily makeup look off hers for like years now and i get so happy when somebody recognizes it (which happens very rarely but still)
they are so beautiful āĖā¹ā”
beach episode! šŗ
āshe was afraid in the end. and she sufferedā
can you hear my heart breaking :((((((
Content note for discussions of eternal damnation, and all sorts of other shit that will trigger a lot of folks with religious trauma.
Before I get started I might as well explain where Iām coming from - unlike a lot of She-Ra fans, and a lot of queer people, I donāt have much religious trauma, or any, maybe (okay there were a number of years I was convinced I was going to hell, but that happens to everyone, right?). I was raised a liberal Christian by liberal Christian parents in the Episcopal Church, where most of my memories are overwhelmingly positive. Fuck, growing up in the 90ās, Chuch was probably the only place outside my home I didnāt have homophobia spewed at me. Because it was the 90ās and it was a fucking hellscape of bigotry where 5 year olds knew enough to taunt each other with homophobic slurs and the adults didnāt know enough to realize how fucked up that was. Anyway. This is my experience, but it is an atypical one, and I know it. Quite frankly I know that my experience of Christianity has very little at all to do with what most people experienced, or what people generally mean when they talk about Christianity as a cultural force in America today. So if you were raised Christian and you donāt recognize your theology here, congrats, neither do I, but these ideas and cultural forces are huge and powerful and dominant. And itās this dominant Christian narrative that Iām referring to in this post. As well as, you know, a childrenās cartoon about lesbian rainbow princesses. So here it goes. This is going to get batshit.
"All events whatsoever are governed by the secret counsel of God." - John Calvin
āWeāre all just a bunch of wooly guysā - Noelle Stevenson
This is a post triggered by a single scene, and a single line. Itās one of the most fucked-up scenes in She-Ra, toward the end of Save the Cat. Catra, turned into a puppet by Prime, struggles with her chip, desperately trying to gain control of herself, so lost and scared and vulnerable that she flings aside her own death wish and her pride and tearfully begs Adora to rescue her. Adora reaches out , about to grab her, and then Prime takes control back, pronounces ādisappointingā and activates the kill switch that pitches Catra off the platform and to her death (and seriously, she dies here, guys - also Adora breaks both her legs in the fall). But before he does, he dismisses Catra with one of his most chilling lines. āSome creatures are meant only for destruction.ā
And thatās when everyone watching probably had their heart broken a little bit, but some of the viewers raised in or around Christianity watching the same scene probably whispered āholy shitā to themselves. Because Primeās line - which works as a chilling and callous dismissal of Catra - is also an allusion to a passage from the Bible. In fact, itās from one of the most fucked up passages in a book with more than its share of fucked up passages. Itās from Romans 9:22, and Iām going to quote several previous verses to give the context of the passage (if not the entire Epistle, which is more about who needs to abide by Jewish dietary restrictions but was used to construct a systematic theology in the centuries afterwards because people decided it was Eternal Truth).
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
The context of the allusion supports the context in the show. Prime is dismissing Catra - serial betrayer, liar, failed conqueror, former bloody-handed warlord - as worthless, as having always been worthless and fit only to be destroyed. He is speaking from a divine and authoritative perspective (because he really does think heās God, more of this in my TL/DR Horde Prime thing). Prime is echoing not only his own haughty dismissal of Catra, and Shadow Weaverās view of her, but also perhaps the viewerās harshest assessment of her, and her own worst fears about herself. Catra was bad from the start, doomed to destroy and to be destroyed. A malformed pot, cracked in firing, destined to be shattered against a wall and have her shards classified by some future archaeologist 2,000 years later. And all thatās bad enough.
But the full historical and theological context of this passage shows the real depth of Noelle Stevensonās passion and thought and care when writing this show. Noelle was raised in Evangelical or Fundamentalist Christianity. To my knowledge, he has never specified what sect or denomination, but in interviews and her memoir Noelle has shown a particular concern for questions that this passage raises, and a particular loathing for the strains of Protestant theology that take this passage and run with it - that is to say, Calvinism. So while Iām not sure if Noelle was raised as a conservative, Calvinist Presbyterian, his preoccupation with these questions mean that itās time to talk about Calvinism.
It would be unfair, perhaps, to say that Calvinism is a systematic theology built entirely upon the Epistles of Romans and Galatians, but only -just- (and here my Catholic readers in particular will chuckle to themselves and lovingly stroke their favorite passage of the Epistle of James). The core of Calvinist Doctrine is often expressed by the very Dutch acronym TULIP:
Total Depravity - people are wholly evil, and incapable of good action or even willing good thoughts or deeds
Unconditional Election - God chooses some people to save because ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ, not because they did anything to deserve, trigger or accept it
Limited Atonement - Jesus died only to save the people God chose to save, not the rest of us bastards
Irresistible Grace - God chooses some people to be saved - if you didnāt want to be saved, too bad, God said so.
Perseverance of the Saints - People often forget this one and assume itās āpredestinationā but itās actually this - basically, once saved by God, always saved, and if it looks like someone falls out of grace, they were never saved to begin with. Well thatās all sealed up tight I guess.
Reading through these, predestination isnāt a single doctrine in Calvinism but the entire theological underpinnings of it together with humanityās utter powerlessness before sin. Basically God has all agency, humanity has none. Calvinism (and a lot of early modern Protestantism) is obsessed with questions of how God saves people (grace alone, AKA Sola Fides) and who God saves (the people god elects and only the people God elects, and fuck everyone else).
Itās apparent that Noelle was really taken by these questions, and repelled by the answers he heard. Heās alluded to having a tattoo refuting the Gospel passage about Sheep and Goats being sorted at the end times, affirming instead that āweāre all just a bunch of wooly guysā (you can see this goat tattoo in some of his self-portraits in comics, etc). Heās also mentioned that rejecting and subverting destiny is a huge part of everything he writes as a particular rejection of the idea that some individual people are 'chosen' by God or that God has a plan for any of us. You can see that -so clearly- in Adoraās arc, where Adora embraces and then rejects destiny time and again and finally learns to live life for herself.
But for Catra, weāre much more concerned about the most negative aspect of this - the idea that some people are vessels meant for destruction. And thatās something else that Noelle is preoccupied with. In her memoir in the section about leaving the church and becoming a humanistic atheist, there is a drawing of a pot and the question āAm I a vessel prepared for destruction?ā Obviously this was on Noelleās mind (And this is before he came out to himself as queer!).
To look at how this question plays out in Catraās entire arc, letās first talk about how ideas of damnation and salvation actually play out in society. And for that Iām going to plug one of my favorite books, Gin Lunās Damned Nation: Hell in America from the Revolution to Reconstruction (if you can tell by now, I am a fucking blast at parties). Lun tells the long and very interesting story about, how ideas of hell and who went there changed during the Early American Republic. One of the interesting developments that she talks about is how while at first people who were repelled by Calvinism started moving toward a doctrine of universal salvation (no on goes to hell, at least not forever*), eventually they decided that hell was fine as long as only the right kind of people went there. Mostly The Other - non-Christian foreigners, Catholics, Atheists, people who were sinners in ways that were not just bad but weird and violated Victorian ideas of respectability. Really, Hell became a way of othering people, and arguably thatās how it survives today, especially as a way to other queer people (but expanding this is slated for my Montero rant). Now while a lot of people were consciously rejecting Calvinist predestination, they were still drawing the distinction between the Elect (good, saved, worthwhile) and the everyone else (bad, damned, worthless). I would argue that secularized ideas of this survive to this day even among non-Christian spaces in our society - we like to draw lines between those who Elect, and those who arenāt.
And thatās what brings us back to Catra. Because Catraās entire arc is a refutation of the idea that some people are worthless and irredeemable, either by nature, nurture or their own actions. Catraās actions strain the conventions of who is sympathetic in a Kidās cartoon - Iāve half joked that sheās Walter White as a cat girl, and itās only half a joke. Sheās cruel, self-deluded, she spends 4 seasons refusing to take responsibility for anything she does and until Season 5 she just about always chooses the thing that does the most damage to herself and others. As I mentioned in my Catra rant, the show goes out of its way to demonstrate that Catra is morally culpable in every step of her descent into evil (except maybe her break with reality just before she pulls the lever). The way that Catra personally betrays everyone around her, the way she strips herself of all of her better qualities and most of what makes her human, hell even her costume changes would signal in any other show that sheās irredeemable.
Itās tempting to see this as Noelleās version of being edgy - pushing the boundaries of what a sympathetic character is, throwing out antiheroics in favor of just making the villain a protagonist. Noelle isnāt quite Alex āI am in the business of traumatizing childrenā Hirsch, who seems to have viewed his job as pushing the bounds of what you could show on the Disney Channel (I saw Gravity Falls as an adult and a bunch of that shit lives rent free in my nightmares forever), but Noelle has his own dark side, mostly thematically. The showās willingness to deal with abuse, and messed up religious themes, and volatile, passionate, not particularly healthy relationships feels pretty daring. Iām not joking when I gleefully recommend this show to friends as āa couple from a Mountain Goats Song fights for four seasons in a cartoon intended for 9 year oldsā. Noelle is in his own way pushing the boundaries of what a kids show can do. If you read Noelleās other works like Nimona, you see an argument for Noelle being at least a bit edgy. Nimona is also angry, gleefully destructive, violent and spiteful - not unlike Catra. Given that it was a 2010s webcomic and not a kids show, Nimona is a good deal worse than Catra in some ways - Catra doesnāt kill people on screen, while Nimona laughs about it (that was just like, a webcomic thing - one of the fan favorite characters in my personal favorite, Narbonic, was a fucking sociopath, and the heroes were all amoral mad scientists, except for the superintelligent gerbil**). But unlike Nimona, whose fate is left open ended, Catra is redeemed.
And that is weird. Weāve had redemption arcs, but generally not of characters with -so- much vile stuff in their history. Going back to the comparison between her and Azula, many other shows, like Avatar, would have made Catra a semi-sympathetic villain who has a sob-story in their origin but who is beyond redemption, and in so doing would articulate a kind of psychologized Calvinism where some people are too traumatized to ever be fully and truly human. Iād argue this is the problem with Azula as a character - sheās a fun villain, but she doesnāt have moral agency, and the ultimate message of her arc - that sheās a broken person destined only to hurt people - is actually pretty fucked up. And thatās the origin story of so many serial killers and psycopaths that populate so many TV shows and movies. Beyond āhurt people hurt peopleā they have nothing to teach us except perhaps that trauma makes you a monster and that the only possible response to people doing bad things is to cut them out of your life and out of our society (and thatās why we have prisons, right?)
And so Catraās redemption and the depths from which she claws herself back goes back to Noelleās desire to prove that no person is a vessel āfitted for destruction.ā Catra goes about as far down the path of evil as weāve ever seen a protagonist in a kids show go, and she still has the capacity for good. Importantly, she is not subject to total depravity - she is capable of a good act, if only one at first. Catra is the one who begins her own redemption (unlike in Calvinism, where grace is unearned and even unwelcomed) - because she wants something better than what she has, even if its too late, because she realizes that she never wanted any of this anyway, because she wants to do one good thing once in her life even if it kills her.
The very extremity of Catraās descent into villainy serves to underline the point that Noelle is trying to make - that no one can be written off completely, that everyone is capable of change, and that no human being is garbage, no matter how twisted theyāve become. Meanwhile her ability to set her own redemption in motion is a powerful statement of human agency, and healing, and a refutation of Calvinismās idea that we are powerless before sin or pop cultural tropes about us being powerful before the traumas of our upbringing. Catraās arc, then, is a kind of anti-Calvinist theological statement - about the nature of people and the nature of goodness.
Now, there is a darker side to this that Noelle has only hinted at, but which is suggested by other characters on the show. Because while Catraās redemption shows that people are capable of change, even when theyāve done horrible things, been fucked up and fucked themselves up, it also illustrates the things people do to themselves that make change hard. As I mentioned in my Catra rant, two of the most sinister parts of her descent into villainy are her self-dehumanization (crushing her own compassion and desire to do good) and her rewriting of her own history in her speech and memory to make her own actions seem justified (which we see with her insistence that Adora left her, eliding Adoraās offers to have Catra join her, or her even more clearly false insistence that Entrapta had betrayed them). In Catra, these processes keep her going down the path of evil, and allow her to nearly destroy herself and everyone else. But we can see the same processes at work in two much darker figures - Shadow Weaver and Horde Prime. These are both rants for another day, but the completeness of Shadow Weaverās narcissistic self-justification and cultivated callousness and the even more complete narcissism of Primeās god complex cut both characters off from everyone around them. Perhaps, in a theoretical sense, they are still redeemable, but for narrative purposes they might as well be damned.
This willingness to show a case where someone -isnāt- redeemed actually serves to make Catraās redemption more believable, especially since Noelle and the writers draw the distinction between how Catra and SW/Prime can relate to reality and other people, not how broken they are by their trauma (unlike Zuko and Azula, who are differentiated by How Fucked Uolp They Are). Redemption is there, itās an option, we can always do what is right, but someone people will choose not to, in part because doing the right thing involves opening ourselves to the world and others, and thus being vulnerable. Noelle mentions this offhandedly in an interview after Season 1 with the She-Ra Progressive of Power podcast - āI sometimes think that shades of grey, sympathetic villains are part of the escapist fantasy of shows like this.ā Because in the real world, some people are just bastards, a point that was particularly clear in 2017. Prime and Shadow Weaver admit this reality, while Catra makes a philosophical point that even the bastards can change their ways (at least in theory).
*An idea first proposed in the second century by Origen, whoās a trip and a fucking half by himself, and an idea that becomes the Catholic doctrine of purgatory, which protestants vehemently denied!
**Speaking of favorite Noelle tropes
THEY ARE LIKE THE SAME I SWEAR
Idk how often this connection has been made but raven and apple from ever after high are literally glinda and elphaba variants
oh god yes, ādonāt goā does an awesome job of filling in the gaps in canon :)
me bc i probably re-read it like at least once every two weeks or so lol
(lots of awesome people have already said some amazing things about this, but itās been on my mind a lot especially since iāve been seeing some anti catra bullshit lately)
first off, i want to say that i donāt think that catra is necessarily handling the situation well, but i often see people saying some crazy shit about how sheās so āungratefulā to adora for rescuing her or whatever and just generally being incredibly insensitive to her.
you have to remember everything that catra has gone through up until the point. horde prime had just completely violated her body and mind, electrocuting her in the baptismal pool, cutting off her hair, and infiltrating her memories. catra, who is already deeply afraid of the losing control (namely to shadow weaver, who taught her that power and control were necessary to be safe from her abuse), just lost all of her autonomy in the most fucking disturbing, pseudo-religious way possible.
before this, catra fully expected to die. iāve seen a lot of different takes and iām relatively open-minded to about what it is that catra thinks specifically when she remembers that scene with her and adoraās younger selves in corridors, but i think that itās something along these lines:
āall iāve ever done is hurt adora, and all she ever tried to do was love me instead. iāve loved her and wanted her more than anyone else, and still all i did was hurt her. adora finally gave up on me, like i deserved all along anyway. but maybe, just maybe, the last thing i do could be for her. maybe that last little piece of goodness in me could live on in her.ā
hence the:
āall i do is hurt people. thereās no one left in the entire universe who cares about me.ā
anyway, my point is that catra has been through fucking hell :(
adora rescues her, and in the moment, catra is (obviously) relieved, shocked, surprised, confused, even. (āwhy did you come back? we both know i donāt matter.ā)
the confusion is the main thing i want to focus on. catra really truly believes that adora hates her (shadow weaver has conditioned her to believe that she has always been inherently worthless and unlovable), so catra canāt understand why adora would ever come back for her.
catra eventually comes to the conclusion that adora just wanted to feel like a hero. she just came back to rescue catra to prove her virtue or her moral superiority to catra.
so she lashes out. she feels so completely out of control, and bitter with adora for her actions, convinced that there is no way that adora came back for her out of love.
adora handles this like shit. the literal first thing she does is throw the mattress onto the floor, and later slams catra into the wall. adora lashes back at catra, hurt that catra doesnāt āappreciateā adoraās love for her. adora doesnāt even try for two fucking seconds to understand where catra is coming from.
(adora does have a consistent issue with only seeming to be able to empathize with catraās emotions when catra is weak, vulnerable, and powerless throughout much of series honestly)
ugh and calling her a stubborn brat? like i love you adora, but that makes my blood fucking boil. it is SUCH condescending, shadow weaver-coded language to use toward catra. i understand, catra is being ādifficultā or whatever, but god itās so easy to see why catra is acting the way she is.
and ofc catra is scared of entrapta! obviously, catra wronged entrapta deeply, and catra has never lived in a world with grace and forgiveness. shadow weaver physically abused her all her life, and hordak suffocated her for losing shadow weaver and lying to him about it. catra knows that she hurt entrapta, so naturally she immediately assumes that entrapta is going to fucking kill her the minute she has a chance.
then adoraās reaction is to fucking shove her into the wall and tell her to āgrow upā. catra just looks fucking terrified, backed into the corner in her little horde pjs :(
adora backs off for a moment and tells catra that she would respect her wish to drop her off somewhere, catra realizes that adora really could leave her, and immediately rushes to beg adora to stay, kneeling on the ground, reaching up for her hand. something about that whole scene just absolutely fucking breaks my heart.
it kills something in me when i hear people say that catra didnāt do enough for redemption. itās never what her redemption was ever about. catra is genuinely so, so much more complicated than that. and so is adora! iām still sad that adora never really made up to catra for some of her shitty behavior.
i donāt believe that their arcs are meant to be done at the end of the show. thereās still so much room for them to grow. and that is what the post canon fics are for lol
oops this ended up being wayyy more of a rant than i intended; i think about catradora all the time :)
oh yes catra is absolutely having a massive bpd episode this whole time :( trying to explain bpd episodes to people who donāt experience them is very hard i fear
another big part of this is that catra wants to be loved and cherished as much as she wants to be respected. she wants adoraās love, but she also wants to be an equal to her. adora, meanwhile, has been made to feel that in order to protect catra, she must control her (thank you shadow weaver). you can really see that mentality on display in this episode.
telling adora that she must be dumb to have never hated her :(
then adora saying āiām such an idiot. i thought that things would be different this time, but clearly nothing has changedā
my heart breaking :((((((((
damn this episode is genuinely insane how it just peels back so many layers of their relationship
(lots of awesome people have already said some amazing things about this, but itās been on my mind a lot especially since iāve been seeing some anti catra bullshit lately)
first off, i want to say that i donāt think that catra is necessarily handling the situation well, but i often see people saying some crazy shit about how sheās so āungratefulā to adora for rescuing her or whatever and just generally being incredibly insensitive to her.
you have to remember everything that catra has gone through up until the point. horde prime had just completely violated her body and mind, electrocuting her in the baptismal pool, cutting off her hair, and infiltrating her memories. catra, who is already deeply afraid of the losing control (namely to shadow weaver, who taught her that power and control were necessary to be safe from her abuse), just lost all of her autonomy in the most fucking disturbing, pseudo-religious way possible.
before this, catra fully expected to die. iāve seen a lot of different takes and iām relatively open-minded to about what it is that catra thinks specifically when she remembers that scene with her and adoraās younger selves in corridors, but i think that itās something along these lines:
āall iāve ever done is hurt adora, and all she ever tried to do was love me instead. iāve loved her and wanted her more than anyone else, and still all i did was hurt her. adora finally gave up on me, like i deserved all along anyway. but maybe, just maybe, the last thing i do could be for her. maybe that last little piece of goodness in me could live on in her.ā
hence the:
āall i do is hurt people. thereās no one left in the entire universe who cares about me.ā
anyway, my point is that catra has been through fucking hell :(
adora rescues her, and in the moment, catra is (obviously) relieved, shocked, surprised, confused, even. (āwhy did you come back? we both know i donāt matter.ā)
the confusion is the main thing i want to focus on. catra really truly believes that adora hates her (shadow weaver has conditioned her to believe that she has always been inherently worthless and unlovable), so catra canāt understand why adora would ever come back for her.
catra eventually comes to the conclusion that adora just wanted to feel like a hero. she just came back to rescue catra to prove her virtue or her moral superiority to catra.
so she lashes out. she feels so completely out of control, and bitter with adora for her actions, convinced that there is no way that adora came back for her out of love.
adora handles this like shit. the literal first thing she does is throw the mattress onto the floor, and later slams catra into the wall. adora lashes back at catra, hurt that catra doesnāt āappreciateā adoraās love for her. adora doesnāt even try for two fucking seconds to understand where catra is coming from.
(adora does have a consistent issue with only seeming to be able to empathize with catraās emotions when catra is weak, vulnerable, and powerless throughout much of series honestly)
ugh and calling her a stubborn brat? like i love you adora, but that makes my blood fucking boil. it is SUCH condescending, shadow weaver-coded language to use toward catra. i understand, catra is being ādifficultā or whatever, but god itās so easy to see why catra is acting the way she is.
and ofc catra is scared of entrapta! obviously, catra wronged entrapta deeply, and catra has never lived in a world with grace and forgiveness. shadow weaver physically abused her all her life, and hordak suffocated her for losing shadow weaver and lying to him about it. catra knows that she hurt entrapta, so naturally she immediately assumes that entrapta is going to fucking kill her the minute she has a chance.
then adoraās reaction is to fucking shove her into the wall and tell her to āgrow upā. catra just looks fucking terrified, backed into the corner in her little horde pjs :(
adora backs off for a moment and tells catra that she would respect her wish to drop her off somewhere, catra realizes that adora really could leave her, and immediately rushes to beg adora to stay, kneeling on the ground, reaching up for her hand. something about that whole scene just absolutely fucking breaks my heart.
it kills something in me when i hear people say that catra didnāt do enough for redemption. itās never what her redemption was ever about. catra is genuinely so, so much more complicated than that. and so is adora! iām still sad that adora never really made up to catra for some of her shitty behavior.
i donāt believe that their arcs are meant to be done at the end of the show. thereās still so much room for them to grow. and that is what the post canon fics are for lol
oops this ended up being wayyy more of a rant than i intended; i think about catradora all the time :)
(lots of awesome people have already said some amazing things about this, but itās been on my mind a lot especially since iāve been seeing some anti catra bullshit lately)
first off, i want to say that i donāt think that catra is necessarily handling the situation well, but i often see people saying some crazy shit about how sheās so āungratefulā to adora for rescuing her or whatever and just generally being incredibly insensitive to her.
you have to remember everything that catra has gone through up until the point. horde prime had just completely violated her body and mind, electrocuting her in the baptismal pool, cutting off her hair, and infiltrating her memories. catra, who is already deeply afraid of the losing control (namely to shadow weaver, who taught her that power and control were necessary to be safe from her abuse), just lost all of her autonomy in the most fucking disturbing, pseudo-religious way possible.
before this, catra fully expected to die. iāve seen a lot of different takes and iām relatively open-minded to about what it is that catra thinks specifically when she remembers that scene with her and adoraās younger selves in corridors, but i think that itās something along these lines:
āall iāve ever done is hurt adora, and all she ever tried to do was love me instead. iāve loved her and wanted her more than anyone else, and still all i did was hurt her. adora finally gave up on me, like i deserved all along anyway. but maybe, just maybe, the last thing i do could be for her. maybe that last little piece of goodness in me could live on in her.ā
hence the:
āall i do is hurt people. thereās no one left in the entire universe who cares about me.ā
anyway, my point is that catra has been through fucking hell :(
adora rescues her, and in the moment, catra is (obviously) relieved, shocked, surprised, confused, even. (āwhy did you come back? we both know i donāt matter.ā)
the confusion is the main thing i want to focus on. catra really truly believes that adora hates her (shadow weaver has conditioned her to believe that she has always been inherently worthless and unlovable), so catra canāt understand why adora would ever come back for her.
catra eventually comes to the conclusion that adora just wanted to feel like a hero. she just came back to rescue catra to prove her virtue or her moral superiority to catra.
so she lashes out. she feels so completely out of control, and bitter with adora for her actions, convinced that there is no way that adora came back for her out of love.
adora handles this like shit. the literal first thing she does is throw the mattress onto the floor, and later slams catra into the wall. adora lashes back at catra, hurt that catra doesnāt āappreciateā adoraās love for her. adora doesnāt even try for two fucking seconds to understand where catra is coming from.
(adora does have a consistent issue with only seeming to be able to empathize with catraās emotions when catra is weak, vulnerable, and powerless throughout much of series honestly)
ugh and calling her a stubborn brat? like i love you adora, but that makes my blood fucking boil. it is SUCH condescending, shadow weaver-coded language to use toward catra. i understand, catra is being ādifficultā or whatever, but god itās so easy to see why catra is acting the way she is.
and ofc catra is scared of entrapta! obviously, catra wronged entrapta deeply, and catra has never lived in a world with grace and forgiveness. shadow weaver physically abused her all her life, and hordak suffocated her for losing shadow weaver and lying to him about it. catra knows that she hurt entrapta, so naturally she immediately assumes that entrapta is going to fucking kill her the minute she has a chance.
then adoraās reaction is to fucking shove her into the wall and tell her to āgrow upā. catra just looks fucking terrified, backed into the corner in her little horde pjs :(
adora backs off for a moment and tells catra that she would respect her wish to drop her off somewhere, catra realizes that adora really could leave her, and immediately rushes to beg adora to stay, kneeling on the ground, reaching up for her hand. something about that whole scene just absolutely fucking breaks my heart.
it kills something in me when i hear people say that catra didnāt do enough for redemption. itās never what her redemption was ever about. catra is genuinely so, so much more complicated than that. and so is adora! iām still sad that adora never really made up to catra for some of her shitty behavior.
i donāt believe that their arcs are meant to be done at the end of the show. thereās still so much room for them to grow. and that is what the post canon fics are for lol
oops this ended up being wayyy more of a rant than i intended; i think about catradora all the time :)
If I had a nickel for every time the universe was saved from annihilation by gay love, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's delightful that it happened twice.
Bonus homoerotic tension glitching frenemies.
catra in her princess prom suit, gotta be one of my favorite genders
(i literally fucking think about this all the time so this just gonna be a rant lol)
i really, truly think that people in general donāt put the effort into understanding characters who are imperfect victims. for them, it destroys the appeal of victimhood. victimhood (especially when the victims in question are girls, women, femme presenting people, etc.) needs to be beautiful and tragic. think characters like ophelia, snow white, odette, juliet, the lisbon sisters. otherwise, their victimhood is no longer attractive.
catra is an imperfect victim. shadow weaverās abuse did not make her soft, weak, timid, or fragile. it made her bitter, angry, and resentful.
i once saw a catra anti saying some bullshit about how they mightāve liked catra more if the writers had spent more screen time showing shadow weaver abusing her, specifically her when she was a kid.
this person wanted to see catraās pain as beautiful. they wanted to see her ONLY as a child to be pitied, the little kid who cowered in fear instead of fighting back, and not have to acknowledge catraās more complicated character traits.
i also think this is why these same people often talk like they love adora, like āadora deserves better than catraā and all that shit. adora (to them) is easier to see as a perfect victim. shadow weaverās abuse made her obedient and self-sacrificing. it made her put others before herself, even to the point of fucking death. adora is selfless and brave. sheās so determined to be a perfect hero, to protect people, to care for people, to love people. these traits are easier to romanticize. it makes her seem beautiful.
if you ask me, this is a really fucked up way of viewing adora. i donāt love adora bc sheās a āperfect victimā, i love adora bc she, like catra, is also flawed. adoraās determination to be perfect leads her to abandoning catra. her inability to empathize with catra leads her to behaving the way she did in taking control. adora isnāt fucking perfect.
(for context i do also think that catra was in the wrong in that episode too, but i feel like we donāt talk enough about how badly adora was handling the situation. like seriously girl catra is here basically telling her āi donāt trust you bc i donāt believe that you could ever love me bc iām inherently fucked up and unlovableā and adoraās immediate reaction is to blow up at her. it makes sense given what adora has just done for her, but itās another example of adora being incapable of empathizing with catra. also calling her a stubborn brat? yeah uh that wasnāt funny adora, especially not with the ways that shadow weaver talked about catra.)
but i love that adora is flawed, and i love that catra is flawed. theyāre not archetypes. no real person experiences abuse like they did and comes out perfect. catraās intense fear of abandonment and resentment issues are a very fucking real response to the way she was traumatized. regardless of how ugly it is.
at the end of the day, i think that people canāt wrap their brains around this concept and refuse to empathize with imperfect victims bc they donāt want to admit that they, too, are imperfect victims. the perfect victim isnāt real. itās a fucking myth.
in real life, people are messy and complicated, like catra and adora. itās why i love them :)
ugh i could literally go on about this FOREVER i swear.
this. this right fucking here.
CATRA AND ADORA ARE NOT SISTERS.
Not "Adopted" or "related by blood", they were NEVER sisters, Period. They grew-up together as best friends in a military-school/orphanage. Plus, Shadow Weaver was their mentor, NOT their "mother".
"Oh but that page from the show bible-"
-Was made before the show ever went into production and was written either by Dreamworks or Netflix higher-ups, without ND Stevenson's consent. So it makes perfect sense that Stevenson fought long and hard, with all of his strength, against these ideas being forced upon the story so that Catra and Adora could fully consummate their love for each other and make cartoon history. Sadly, these bad-faith actors are so desperate to turn Stevenson into this disgusting "incest-abuse fetishist", not because they care about "wanting good writing" or "better representation" but because they want less competition. It's what they tried to do with Rebecca Sugar and others, lie about a genuine, honest-to-goodness LGBTQ+ creator fighting for diversity being the most depraved, most vile monster imaginable just so they can chase them out of the industry and take their place as "the better creator".
Because they believe the animation industry works like some high-school popularity contest where the only way upwards is to tear others down.
the actual fucking chills that i get listening to perverts ā”
the fates already fucked me sideways, swinging by my neck from the family tree
(i think about this family tree intro line like every fucking day)