The Worst Part About Being A Closeted Proshipper Is When One Of Your Friends Mentions A Relationship

this moment where little Andrew and Ashley find used cigarettes.... something something foreshadowing

Too much of the fandom really likes Renee. I hate her. I can understand that people find her attractive, because she is, but I can’t stand her. Obviously each to their own, and I can acknowledge that if you don’t particularly like both Andrew and Ashley you will find Renee’s actions less hate-able. This is just my thoughts shoved into text format. Sorry for any errors.

Abuse of Andrew

₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ Renee made Andrew into a parent for Ashley, which in turn didn’t allow him to have a proper childhood. It’s also teased in the Episode 3 trailer that there’s rumours of incest between the siblings around school which is no doubt stemmed from the two being forced in such close proximities due to the mother and fathers neglect. This more than likely affected a lot of Andrew’s social life, pushing him towards other women to ‘prove’ he isn’t ’like that’, which isn’t particularly healthy for a teen boy.

₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ Renee and the father are likely the cause of Andrew’s anxiety in fear of pissing her off, or generally bothering her. Andrew represses his true feelings so he can please his parents, Both parents seem to brush off any concerns Andrew has, making him internalise his feelings and not seek any mental or emotional support for what he is going through.

Abuse of Ashley

₍⑅ᐢ..ᐢ₎ Renee forcing Andrew to be Ashley’s caretaker tore away any form of other support network for the young girl. This is clearly shown with how she struggles to make friends and genuine connections with others outside of Andrew, seen with Julia and Nina. It is also why she never sought out support for herself, Renee would never get help for her clearly neurodivergent or somewhere on the ASPD spectrum, so Ashley in turn also did not.

₍⑅ᐢ..ᐢ₎ Renee not allowing Ashley to have birthdays may seem like a small and insignificant detail but it speaks volumes of what she was like as a parent to me. She never allowed to have nice things and Renee made sure of that. Or didn’t. She didn’t care enough to even check up in the girl, probably didn’t even remember her birthday.

₍⑅ᐢ..ᐢ₎ Renee calling her a problem and an annoyance, again, something insignificant to some that I am reading into far too much. Your parent is supposed to be your biggest supporter in life, the one that brought you to life, who is supposed to love you unconditionally. Ashley has none of that. The only unconditional love and support she has is from her older brother. Not having support from your parents, your mother actively calling her an annoyance doesn’t help with her obviously festering insecurities and self hatred.

₍⑅ᐢ..ᐢ₎ Renee thinking and openly expressing that the only way Ashley could have value to anyone (specifically Andrew) is if she is having sex with them. Ashley’s mindset about sex is very contractual (I will probably go into further detail about this in a later post) and I believe that that has been taken from her mother.

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🌺 Selling her children to the organ harvesting scheme is just generally fucked up, and how she shows absolutely no remorse is even more concerning. She happily collected the life insurance money, moved to a nicer home in a nicer place intending to forget about the two whole children she had.

🌺 Renee may not be the cause of all of the siblings problems, there are external influences as well as the father, though I feel with the lack of content we have around their father that I am unable to judge him on his actions, bar being equally responsible for his children. I just find the fandoms treatment of Renee to be odd considering how fandoms usually absolutely flame abusive parents in fiction. As I said, each to their own, if you like her this isn’t a post to try and change your mind, it’s just my opinion.

If you take the incestuous codependency out of TCOAAL, there's basically nothing left of the characters, plot, or themes, so I have to assume the people who excise one of the siblings for the sake of an OC x Canon ship or butcher the Graves' personalities are in it for the game's aesthetics only. The phenomenon annoys me. TCOAAL is a cleaver-sharp critique of capitalism, Christianity, the nuclear family, and patriarchy, not a Pinterest moodboard. Even if you don't ship the Graves siblings, ignoring the lifelong influence they have exerted on each other, or else making Andrew into an emo daddy dom who did nothing wrong or Ashley into a nymphomaniac yandere goth gf, is antithetical to the source material and politically infantile.

I hate when I like a fucking edit of two characters I ship and the caption is dumb ass shit like “NOT A SHIP!!! NOT SHIPPING!!! KYS IF YOU SHIP THIS!!! DIEE!!!!” Like you could’ve not said anything.

Why are people still denying that Andrew Graves is a bad person, and always has been in nearly every way just like his little baby sister? Should I list examples from 3a decay?

Was it when he back handed Ashley? Or watching her get undressed through a keyhole? Was it when he admitted he didn't like anyone and never has with the exception of Ashley, and his only perogative has always been keeping up with appearances? Was it when he admitted he thought about knocking Julia's teeth out, so she would give better head? Or was it shamelessly murdering a child as a full grown man? Or when he beat Ashley senseless and then kissed her shortly after?

"But wahh wahha mean Ashley Graves forced Andrew's hand! He's a little baby victim!!!"

Can it and just admit you want to self insert yourself with a cute lil emo boy.

🤍Etihw & Kcalb🖤

25/03/25

If I'm honest, even as annoying and abusive as Ashley can be, I think it says a lot when i see all these guy streamers blaming Ashley for everything and celebrating when she is mistreated physically or emotionally

Kokichi sketch page! I like him a normal amount

Hello there, this is my intro! I'm Noa, and I don't care much about pronouns so you can use any when addressing me! :)

I am pansexual and aromantic, I can speak English/Spanish and I'm diagnosed with ADHD.

I'm proshipper/anti-harassment, so please block me if you're an anti.

Also DNI if you support any type of discrimination in general (sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc) and if you're a minor, since I may also repost things related to/with sexual mentions.

After that I just block freely.

My interests are: Okegom/Funamusea's works, Arcane, The coffin of Andy and Leyley, Danganronpa, Sally face, Lacey games, I have no mouth and I must scream, Alice in Borderland, Squid Games and Junji Ito's works.

Favs characters ♡:

Satanick (Okegom)

Jinx (Arcane)

Maddy Pérez (Euphoria)

Ashley Graves (TCOAAL)

Yonaka Kurai (Okegom)

Hikari Kurina (Alice in Borderland)

Tomie (Junji Ito)

Kokichi Ouma/Junko Enoshima (Danganronpa)

Lacey (Lacey games)

Favs ships ♡:

Sataivlis (Satanick x Ivlis)

Fumusata (Satanick x Fumus)

Samewada (Samekichi x Wadanohara)

Vijinx (Vi x Jinx)

Gravecest (Ashley x Andrew)

Despaircest (Junko x Mukuro)

Kuraicest (Yonaka x Shinya)

Thangyu (Thanos x Nam gyu)

(You might notice I have a thing for incest and toxic yaoi, the only healthy ship there is Samewada lol)