See I Think The Daredevil Born Again Writers Kinda Screwed Themselves With Killing Foggy Cause It’s

daredevil + shitposts: born again edition

(pre-born again mattelektra and frankmatt edition)

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Daredevil Born Again

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Kastle, after Klimt

I just finished watching The Punisher s1 (I know, kinda late) And the part that spoke to me the most was everyone being kinda charmed by Frank Castle : Sarah AND David Lieberman, Billy, in some way, Karen, Dinah… I see you bc same

that one hurt his feelings

im not saying it was a perfect film BUT women talking's conversation around the importance of education for young boys, the importance of recognising they are not predestined to cruelty and violence, that they can be good if they're raised away from the toxicity of patriarchy PLUS the fact that the women are inconsistent in their decisions and trauma responses, and some of them are downright unlikeable without ever being the antagonist or villain, the scenes of joy and love between the women and children who've suffered unspeakably, the scenes of the younger boys and girls playing together, 'sometimes forgiveness can be confused with permission' ???? beautiful

Okay, for the record, I hate love triangles. It's one of my least favourite tropes, but that's obviously where the writers want to take Matt, Frank and Karen so we just have to deal (and inevitable fix the mess with fanfic).

I've seen some posts on here arguing for Karedevil and for Kastle, but I haven't really seen the arguments constructed in terms of what it means narratively for the person Karen doesn't choose, and IMHO that's what the writers of the show should be concentrating on.

If Karen doesn't choose Matt...he'd be fine. Eventually. He'd get over it. He's gotten over losing people before, and he's always bounced back and found someone else. There's been Clair, and Karen, and Elektra and Heather...

The boy gets around. He's charming and handsome and while he's obviously not great boyfriend material in the show, he gets the ladies again and again.

Frank is very, very different. The show has set him up to be a family man without a family. He loves deeply - so deeply that it breaks him - and he's so hesitant about being with someone again that he'd rather live alone and in pain than risk that kind of heartbreak.

But he loves Karen. And she's been set up as his 'After'. The thing that would pull him out of his destructive life as the Punisher, if only he had the courage to accept her and her love.

So what happens to him if Karen chooses Matt? Sure, he's always tried to push her onto Matt, but it's a way to protect himself. To put up a barrier between them. If she actually chose Matt...that would condemn Frank to a life of being nothing more than the Punisher. He will spend the rest of his (inevitably) short life alone and hurt, chewing painkillers in a bunker. And I think that's incredibly sad.

It would probably satisfy the comic fanboys who just want a Punisher that kills and kills and kills...but for the narrative arc of Frank Castle, it would just be so sad.

And such a waste.

His thumb on her cheek... The hand on the side of her neck... THE FOREHEAD KISS!!! Please I'm weeping.

He's a literal killing machine and he's capable of such gentleness

There's so much love in this bleeding, broken, tortured heart of his.

"We can't even entertain the idea of being together unless he comes back from the dark side, He has to pick: Is it going to be this vendetta, or is it going to be life? Presumably, maybe, life with me. And then when he says no, it's just doubly devastating.” — Deborah Ann Woll [x]