Being A Miraculous Hater When You Like Both Marinette And Adrien As Characters And The Lovesquare Is

gabriel is fascinating in that he is a deeply fucked up guy. can't believe they let him win they should've shot him like old yeller. he needed to be put down

ik its a kids show so theyd probably never delve into this. but in the universe where chat noir and hawkmoths identity were revealed to the public, i cannot fucking imagine the media circus that would go on. the court case alone would be so bad… “hawkmoth vs chat noir: domestic terrorism or domestic abuse?” itd be soooo awful they should make it happen. paris’ most fucked up family. the youtube videos. someone would request to make a documentary. and after all gabriels shit is revealed publicly he still only goes to jail for tax evasion à la al capone.

okay so i also haven't totally caught up with season 6. i really did think maybe they were saving marinette telling adrien for later but the crazy thing is that felix knows. kagami knows. nathalie knows. and you're telling me NO ONE has snitched. everyone is totally fine with not telling adrien anything. i hope everyone goes to hell im so serious

s6 making lila the main antagonist (probably) is so sad like the excessive fake identities and such... it's not the same as it is s1-s4 its just not the same flavor. I need her petty 14 yo beef to stay petty 14 yo beef. can s6 at least have adrien and lila fight with nails behind the lycee. or have marinette teach adrien how to drive her scooter and adrien runs over lila mako-asami style like "oops sorry ^_^" i need their beef to be astronomical but also on a civilian level. like lila should be a normal 14 yo girl who just so happens to push people down staircases Not a supervillain. In my opinion.

i really do need miraculous to timeskip 20 years in the future idgaf about adrienette rn but i do care about their toxic marriage so badly. but i don't want to write it myself. i think it'd be like a psychological horror on both ends. like marinette loving adrien but over the course of years and years isn't sure where the love ends and the guilt begins. it's too late to come clean now. etc. is she with him because she truly cares about him or is it because she can't bring herself to harm him in anyway? is there a difference? on the other end if adrien ever found out he was a senti and marinette knew and didn't inform him for years, there's some insane psychological horror of knowing ur s/o was fully capable of giving you orders in some way without you knowing and there's no way to prove she did or did not. nothing but trust which has immediately been broken because she lied for 20 yrs or whatever. (stares off into the distance) they should be the main characters in a victorian short story they make freshman read and annotate in English class . and instead it's ml

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i hate miraculous ladybug but i disagree with everyone else who hates miraculous ladybug and that's my true real problem. no video essay does it for me because they're literally wrong (because my opinion is always right btw) and every salt blog is wrong. "adrien should be the main protagonist" wrong. "the biggest problem is marinette being a stalker" wrong bad faith argument not understanding the genre (though it is a valid criticism to be uncomfortable with it personally) "marinette is a mary sue" literally wrong. "adrien is a gary stu" wrong. "adrien sucks and this is why marinette should get with some random guy named robin." what the fuck are you talking about.

sorry to everyone following me im not done. so like okay i haven't kept up with season 6 much. does Marinette still not tell Adrien anything. like they're in a relationship but Adrien doesn't know anything about his dad or the sentimonster thing?? like the amoks? because I just want to say if no one has written 20 years in the future divorce fic.......... the custody battle would be crazy. can you imagine. "she knew there were rings that could remote control me and did not inform me of the fact." "you've been wearing them the whole time i didn't remote control you!" "okay but when we held hands when we said our vows?" "IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT" "HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOU DIDNT TELL ME ANYTHING." i simply think it'd be the best psychological horror and also a comedy of all time.

At a certain point, ppl really have to understand that you can't really judge anything normally in ML bc the writing is just that bad. It reminds me of the discourse over Marinette killing the sentis Gabriel sent after them. Stop looking at it as "Marinette is a murderer for killing sentis" and look it as "the writing is so inconsistent that they can't decide which sentis count as real people", and it's the same for this bc the senti logic is one of the worst parts of the lore. These characters are not real and do not operate on any internal logic bc there is none. That should be what the focus is. You're not gonna find any real answers looking at things from a Watsonian perspective anymore unless you're doing it as a fun thought experiment and absolutely nothing else

Precisely

You can’t follow the show’s logic and arrive to a conclusion that hasn’t already contradicted itself

That’s why I (and so many others) choose to focus on on critiquing the meta aspects instead of wasting time on a fool’s errand

I don’t get why it’s so difficult for some people to understand that

like im not saying anyone has to remember everything that gabriel has done but keep in mind he's done things like threaten nuclear annihilation to the entire North American continent, drowned the entirety of paris, and marinette is also aware he akumatized chat noir into literally destroying the entire world. so keeping this in mind, one might think to themselves "maybe the people of the world would like some sort of real closure and justice for these crimes against humanity." of course, if one only thinks about adriens wellbeing, it may seem like telling the world about it to be detrimental to him. but it's also important to keep in mind gabriel also did things such as: threaten to blow up the north american continent while adrien was on that continent. and keep adrien in the white cage. and the multitude of other things akumas have done targeting adrien personally - gorizilla? riposte? one might think even adrien would want some sort of closure or justice for how he's personally been treated by hawkmoth. of course, this may be terrible to find out that it's your father who didn't care about your personal or physical wellbeing, but at least a person can come to terms with how they were treated if they know all the facts.

of course marinette is a 14 year old girl who has a lot on her plate and having to navigate very hard decisions. and sometimes it seems safe to simply do nothing at all. especially with secrets like this - because you can't reverse telling people the truth, but you can always reverse a lie by coming clean later. but i do generally expect like most people with morality of any kind to think to themselves "wow. i think keeping this secret is detrimental to a lot of people and their personal growth and their capability of making autonomous informed decisions." at least one tiktoker could say "hey maybe adrien should know he's a sentimonster if nothing else so he can be aware he can be remote controlled so that he can better protect his autonomy" alas this show is for 7 year olds so no. marinette is always right. and so the shitty moral lessons of ml win yet again. i need tequila.

i can't go on tiktok and read comments. revelator has done something insane because i have seen so many comments saying what marinette is doing when it comes to lying about gabriel being hawkmoth is 100 percent correct and alya being upset about her lying is wrong. am i fucking crazy? am i out of my mind right now? or do tiktok comment sections live in an entirely different universe than me? because what do you mean it's the correct option to lie to the entire world about how the person who has terrorized them for years is actually a hero and not even tell his son that his father was a criminal. omfg does no one understand the concept of justice or closure or autonomy. even if telling the world gabriel agreste was hawkmoth might result in adriens life becoming harder, why not tell adrien and let him make ab informed decision about any of it? or do people hate letting other people other than marinette make decisions. this is actually driving me insane like i can't actually deal with reading people saying marinette is morally correct. what are we teaching people right now