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This is a personal rant about how I, as a Greek and mythology lover, view these modern retellings and how they came out more as a disappointment.
Here are some examples of forced labelling from the book sites like Bookreads:
Do you see a pattern? Is not only they are telling the audience rather than showing how "feminist" are these retellings but also..
Man vs woman
According to the retellings all ancient Greek men are bad, sexist, misogynists, worthless, abusers and women are girlboss ✨. But it's obvious that humans regardless of gender are complex beings.
But when you read the Original epics you realise that women have as much importance in the story as men. But not in the way you are used to...
The women aren't afraid to speak their mind, they have agency, they are a driving force the admire, but it's not with shields, armor or physical strength. They are also showing it with kindness, empathy, cunning but also with anger, sorrow, vengeance.
Penelope, Electra, Antigone, Ariadne, Andromache, Helen, Cassandra etc. ARE strong women! They don't have to go to battle to prove it!
BUT that also doesn't mean we should glorify the women who are abusers and do wrong things!
Clytemnestra for example, exiled Orestes, had her daughter Electra a slave, showed proudly her Trojan women (also slaves) and killed Cassandra an innocent woman.. Do i understand how and why she acted? Yes 💯. Does this justifies her actions ? Of course no.
Medea, killed her brother and her children, and also poisoned Jason's next wife and her father because "she wanted to make him suffer like her". Do i understand why she did it? Yes. Does it justify to have everyone suffer because of one man? No.
Hera, punished several women and men alike because she couldn't do it on Zeus (because he is the king and stronger). Is cheating bad? Yes. Does it justify her to punish someone who was obviously a victim or was powerless against a god? No.
The retellings:
fail to do complex characters.
fail to let the audience come to their own conclusions who's right, wrong or neutral.
They fail to make daring characters without be labelled on a modern stereotype.
Fail to understand the norms of ancient Greece and how they shaped these stories.
Fail to realise that men and women are more complex than modern stereotypes.
I am not against retellings but do better! Making a great retelling respectful to the source and having complex characters with quality reading would be deeply appreciated.
And to the readers to not rely on retellings as "faithful resources".
I need help looking for an ORV (Omniscient Readers Viewpoint) fic where KDJ is isekaied to a fantasy story where he is sent to this castle by his shirt family so he can d!e and to stop these monstrous things from attacking it and he gets doted on by the lord of the castle. And the lord wants him to be his heir but KDJ is like “nah.” And I think YJH either goes to the castle and sees him or KDJ goes looking for him
I WAS FUCKING RIGHT
I like to think that in somewhere in “Ruthlessness,” Poseidon gets a glimpse of how scary our boy Ody can be. Because at that moment, Poseidon is threatening his ability to go home and he’s do anything to get home, he later learns. So Ody is scared but also angry
Poseidon is in the middle of threatening Odysseus (or maybe after he kills his crew) and he catches a sliver of the man who dropped an infant because Zeus told him too and he would be able to go home. He sees a man who’s ready to get anything out of his way to get his and his crew home (yes, this is before his crew turns stupid and he ditched them) and then, it’s gone. And Poseidon thinks he must’ve imagined it.
Then in the later saga, Poseidon sees a totally different man than early because this man has no crew left to take home, has accepted that he is a monster, and has gone through pretty shitty things. BUT he is definitely more scary so Poseidon is secretly shaking in his flippers
(I have more thoughts but it’s late and I’ll just remember to add on later)
Edit: I just want people to be scared of Odysseus, not his fam or good subjects, but the bad people 😁
It’s fairly new but if yall want to join, here’s the link!
An Article from Neena Susan Thomas
“Through a rapist’s eyes. A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interview…ed on what they look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts:
1] The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun! , braid, or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.
2] The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women who’s clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors around to cut clothing.
3] They also look for women using their cell phone, searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard and can be easily overpowered.
4] The number one place women are abducted from / attacked at is grocery store parking lots.
5] Number two is office parking lots/garages.
6] Number three is public restrooms.
7] The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to a second location where they don’t have to worry about getting caught.
8] If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn’t worth it because it will be time-consuming.
9] These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas,or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands.
10] Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you’re not worth it.
POINTS THAT WE SHOULD REMEMBER:
1] If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk: can’t believe it is so cold out here, we’re in for a bad winter. Now that you’ve seen their faces and could identify them in a line- up, you lose appeal as a target.
2] If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell Stop or Stay back! Most of the rapists this man talked to said they’d leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be afraid to fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target.
3] If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes,) yelling I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY and holding it out will be a deterrent.
4] If someone grabs you, you can’t beat them with strength but you can do it by outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm between the elbow and armpit or in the upper inner thigh – HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it; it really hurts.
5] After the initial hit, always go for the groin. I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy’s parts it is extremely painful. You might think that you’ll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause him a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble, and he’s out of there.
6] When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.
7] Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don’t dismiss it, go with your instincts. You may feel little silly at the time, but you’d feel much worse if the guy really was trouble.
FINALLY, PLEASE REMEMBER THESE AS WELL ….
1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do it.
2. Learned this from a tourist guide to New Orleans : if a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you…. chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!
3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car: Kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won’t see you but everybody else will. This has saved lives.
4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping,eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. DON’T DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side,put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU CLOSE the DOORS , LEAVE.
5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:
a. Be aware: look around your car as someone may be hiding at the passenger side , peek into your car, inside the passenger side floor, and in the back seat. ( DO THIS TOO BEFORE RIDING A TAXI CAB) .
b. If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.
c. Look at the car parked on the driver’s side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)
6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).
7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!
8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP IT! It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked “for help” into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.
Send this to any woman you know that may need to be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it and it’s better safe than sorry.
If u have compassion reblog this post. ‘Helping hands are better than Praying Lips’ – give us your helping hand.
REBLOG THIS AND LET EVERY GIRL KNOW AT LEAST PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHATS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD. So please reblog this….Your one reblog can Help to spread this information.
THIS COULD ACTUALLY SAVE A LIFE.”
Star Wars Au but it’s just the Odyssey/Epic the Musical
Anakin:Odysseus (“All i hear are screams” is so Anakin/Vader coded)
Padme: Penelope
Telemachus: Luke AND Leia
Athena: Obi-Wan
His crew: the 501st
Eurolychus (idk how to spell his name): Rex
Im not sure about everyone else. The only difference about this AU would be that when Anakin comes home, all the suitors are already d€ad cuz Luke and Leia home aloned the shit out of them
”There are many ways of persuasion” snippet but it’s Clone Wars and Obi-Wan is flirting with someone for info and Anakin covers Ahsokas eyes and proceeds to cover his own
I just laughed as if I was crying [redraw]
How old do you guys think Odysseus is? I’m thinking at the beginning he’s 20 something because people did a lot of things younger (marriage, going to war, working) and when he goes back to Ithaca he’s like 40 or so or possibly 50
If I ever write this, it’ll either be the sickest work I’ve ever done or it’s just gonna be like:
“He facking obLITERATED them. He’s the Gods of Olympus now like the badass he is.”
Thats it
Thats it
I like to think that in somewhere in “Ruthlessness,” Poseidon gets a glimpse of how scary our boy Ody can be. Because at that moment, Poseidon is threatening his ability to go home and he’s do anything to get home, he later learns. So Ody is scared but also angry
Poseidon is in the middle of threatening Odysseus (or maybe after he kills his crew) and he catches a sliver of the man who dropped an infant because Zeus told him too and he would be able to go home. He sees a man who’s ready to get anything out of his way to get his and his crew home (yes, this is before his crew turns stupid and he ditched them) and then, it’s gone. And Poseidon thinks he must’ve imagined it.
Then in the later saga, Poseidon sees a totally different man than early because this man has no crew left to take home, has accepted that he is a monster, and has gone through pretty shitty things. BUT he is definitely more scary so Poseidon is secretly shaking in his flippers
(I have more thoughts but it’s late and I’ll just remember to add on later)
Edit: I just want people to be scared of Odysseus, not his fam or good subjects, but the bad people 😁
I agree whole heartedly and will now be using this format to spread the word👍
Change my meme (a replacement 'Change my mind' template) - template post - Imgur
I love this woman so much🥹🥰 Rest in peace, dearie
Dame Maggie Smith
1934-2024
If one of your family members brings a new friend/significant other, tell them your interests. Mention “I love this” and 90% percent of the time they’ll get it for you to get in your good graces and if they like you. ESPECIALLY if they’re planning on sticking around for a while. I did this and I have 1-9 of Spy X Family with a few extras so
(I got two from bro-in-law who got them from his friend, two from sister’s now ex, and the rest I got from the aforementioned friend cause he didn’t want them??? It’s freaking Spy X Family my dude)
poor Filoni🤣
I was skimming through an old Lucas interview about TPM, when I stumbled upon this little nugget of gold:
“At one point, when Obi-Wan kills Darth Maul, he just fell in the pit. I looked at it and thought this isn’t going to work because, if people like him enough, they’re going to want him to come back and they’re going to assume somehow he gets out of it. So I had to cut him in half to say that this guy’s gone, he’s history, he ain’t coming back” - George Lucas
At least you tried your best, George. At least you tried your best 😂 😂 😂
trying to write any nsfw with kim dokja in it is like. how can i maneuver this asshole into being even slightly emotionally vulnerable enough for this. this man has NO experience NO confidence NO desire to be seen with even his socks off and SEVERAL bitches desperate for him. trying to get kim dokja to have sex is like trying to convince a scared dog that the vacumn isnt going to hurt him like shhhhhh its ok its ok. you can stop shaking in that corner and come out its allll going to be alright
WHO IS USING THIS
AN APP??? THEY HAVE A FUNCTIONING WEBSITE
THE LAST FUNCTIONING WEBSITE
It’s for my art class and I’m making it into a monochromatic painting
I’m convinced that Odysseus (Epic version, though OG version would probably have the same results) would adore Percy if they ever were to meet. It would take a minute (since Percy’s dad screwed Ody over) but Odysseus would be like: “I love this sassy child.” and he would like Annabeth even MORE because smarts.
Penelope would bake them cookies or something because if Odysseus is immortal (or something) of course his wifey is immortal too
please watch my favorite game changer clip ever
If you hear someone ugly sobbing that’s me
HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAT DAY!!🥳
Honestly just realized it was today (haha). How many cats do you guys have?